RE: Range Rover V8 (L322): Spotted
Discussion
Have the petrols got a stronger gearbox? I looked at them before getting a Disco and I seem to remember that as long as you budgeted £3k for a new gearbox they were no more ruinous than any other complicated car of this age.
They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
classicyanktanks said:
It's life as we know it. Don't know if you'd get your nissan juke back up the hill Jim. Shazza or whatever you call her might have to get her white trainers dirty.
I know my old Astra would make it, only thing that was an issue was ground clearance.Used to do it getting to our mooring.
You will never convince me that thing, Porsche's answer to a question nobody ever asked, will get anywhere near as far as a Range Rover.
Smart farming money defaults to a Subaru of some sort or Toyota though if my farming friends are any representation.
Crumpet said:
Have the petrols got a stronger gearbox? I looked at them before getting a Disco and I seem to remember that as long as you budgeted £3k for a new gearbox they were no more ruinous than any other complicated car of this age.
They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
Yes, the gearbox is completely different to the one used on the TD6 and is considered to be strong, although it is worthwhile giving it a service using the correct oil and filter despite the claim of being sealed for life.They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
QuattroDave said:
I'm tempted by these but each time I look at the early ones I end up being drawn to the post 2011 FL ones - specifically the 4.4TDV8 but then I look into common problems and then wonder whether it's worth the potential financial pain!
Then I wonder whether it's just the triumph of the "german engineering" marketing that makes me so concerned. After all almost every Audi I've owned has robbed my wallet at some point (A8 4.2V8, UR quattro, S6, A6 +8 others) with only the RS6 not (mainly because I sold it very quickly!)
QuattroDave, the 2011/12 TDV8 is the one to get, if you want a sorted L322 - in late 2012 they released the new L405 which is much more expensive.Then I wonder whether it's just the triumph of the "german engineering" marketing that makes me so concerned. After all almost every Audi I've owned has robbed my wallet at some point (A8 4.2V8, UR quattro, S6, A6 +8 others) with only the RS6 not (mainly because I sold it very quickly!)
Problems - not really on these late cars, in my experience. And if you've got an experienced indy that knows RR's then fixes are not stupidly expensive. You can get a good one for around £20k which a lot of car for the money.
Regarding the Cayenne Turbo (diesel I presume), yes it's a very good car. However, it doesn't "waft" like the RR does, the ride quality isn't as good, and its performance is largely irrelevant in this sort of vehicle, in my view. As for off roading, I think the tyres that are fitted make a bigger difference than anything else. Besides which, most Cayenne/RR owners don't do any serious off roading - our farmer friend is not typical.
LandRoverManiac said:
Hmmm... tempting.
My next purchase could be a difficult toss-up between one of these and a late P38 - both will need 'tinkering' to keep them happy (what LR product doesn't) but when they're working they are excellent things to waft around in.
The only issue with these is that they've become affordable to the point where Gazza on the council estate buys one for a couple of grand and tries to run it on a shoestring - there are a lot of dog-eared examples out there that have a list of avoidable issues due to long-term neglect. That would be true of any high-end luxury barge costing £50K+ when new.
I shall remain silent on the subject of Porsche Cayennes / off-roading to avoid needlessly offended the easily offended. Aren't they only driven by orange women?
My P38 has now done 168000 - I have owned it for 10 years. Been the most reliable car I have owned. Bit ragged now - but still great to drive, and great on LPG. I would guess it has cost me about £5K in repairs over 10 years.My next purchase could be a difficult toss-up between one of these and a late P38 - both will need 'tinkering' to keep them happy (what LR product doesn't) but when they're working they are excellent things to waft around in.
The only issue with these is that they've become affordable to the point where Gazza on the council estate buys one for a couple of grand and tries to run it on a shoestring - there are a lot of dog-eared examples out there that have a list of avoidable issues due to long-term neglect. That would be true of any high-end luxury barge costing £50K+ when new.
I shall remain silent on the subject of Porsche Cayennes / off-roading to avoid needlessly offended the easily offended. Aren't they only driven by orange women?
L322's scare me a bit. A very late P38 has to be a better bet.
Jim AK said:
Smart farming money defaults to a Subaru of some sort or Toyota though if my farming friends are any representation.
Yep, most farmers I know have a Hilux or some other pickup. I don’t think any of them ever knock it out of 2wd either as there’s just never any need for the majority of them. Plus, a ‘normal’ 4x4 would be little use to most of them as you can’t stick a half-ton bag of fertiliser or a massive bale of hay in the back of one.Clearly if you’re a sheep farmer living on the hills of the Lake District your requirements might be different.
Crumpet said:
Have the petrols got a stronger gearbox? I looked at them before getting a Disco and I seem to remember that as long as you budgeted £3k for a new gearbox they were no more ruinous than any other complicated car of this age.
They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
Yes they have, compared to the TD6's gearbox, where the torque convertor is made from chocolate.They’re probably like any other LR product. Get a good one and it’ll be faultless, but a bad one will be disastrous for the wallet - I’ve had one of each! Unfortunately you never know which you’re going to get.
The best 'box is in the TDV8 4.4 cars - this is the ZF 8 speed unit as used by Rolls Royce, Bentley and Maserati plus others.
I know what you mean about good ones and bad ones, but if you get one where you know the history (e.g. owners forum or asking the indy that's maintained it) then you'll probably be fine. I've found that the good ones have had preventative maintenance, such as changing gearbox fluid and replacing consumables with OEM parts. Annual servicing is vital and the MOT history is a useful indicator.
J4CKO said:
They now can look a bit naff with so many of the later ones around as well, this looks ok, could perhaps look like wealthy folk who have kept it around for years, rather than a retired bloke called Roy who tries to make it look super posh with his initials on the back, gold badges etc.
This is certainly the only people I see driving these around now. Presumably they upgraded when their P38 with an L322 look alike grille finally split an engine block for the last time.Turkish91 said:
classicyanktanks said:
We had a cayenne turbo before which was as economical, better to drive, cheaper to run, service, more luxurious inside and far better off-road.
LolI don't know if that was the case, mind you. If both cars were on all season/winter tyres, his statement is nonsense.
Harry's Garage made a good review video on the RR albeit the TDV8 but could be relevant for those looking to buy any L322:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
We've had an example of each of the first three series (1993 County Sport, 2000 4.6 HSK, 2010 Supercharged) and the 2000 L322 has been a solid car without major reliability issues despite being, by far, the most complex. As others have said, the key is making sure the maintenance is done correctly and on time and without trying to go cheap on little maintenance tasks.
(And before anybody makes comments on the '93 Sport, no, that's not a Range Rover Sport as they introduced later, it's an edition of 300 SWB Range Rovers done with the air suspension out of the LWB as a test before switching over to air suspension for all of them in 1994)
(And before anybody makes comments on the '93 Sport, no, that's not a Range Rover Sport as they introduced later, it's an edition of 300 SWB Range Rovers done with the air suspension out of the LWB as a test before switching over to air suspension for all of them in 1994)
Edited by MikeGalos on Sunday 21st January 16:35
pwd95 said:
Took the family skiing over new year.......
Erm, the roads, they, err, look clear to me. Last time I went skiing the transfers were done in a Merc Sprinter mini bus. If normal people, in normal vehicles can't get to the ski resort, the ski resort won't work.I have a picture of my CBR600 next to a snow drift that's higher than the roof of your Range Rover.
Willy Nilly said:
Erm, the roads, they, err, look clear to me. Last time I went skiing the transfers were done in a Merc Sprinter mini bus. If normal people, in normal vehicles can't get to the ski resort, the ski resort won't work.
I have a picture of my CBR600 next to a snow drift that's higher than the roof of your Range Rover.
Huh? I think you've read something that's not there. He merely said that he drove to a ski resort in his car, which is a Range Rover. He didn't state that it was the only car that could have got there I have a picture of my CBR600 next to a snow drift that's higher than the roof of your Range Rover.
The chip on your shoulder is now so large that you are replying to comments that you've made up.
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