RE: Range Rover V8 (L322): Spotted
Discussion
Jimmy Recard said:
Willy Nilly said:
Erm, the roads, they, err, look clear to me. Last time I went skiing the transfers were done in a Merc Sprinter mini bus. If normal people, in normal vehicles can't get to the ski resort, the ski resort won't work.
I have a picture of my CBR600 next to a snow drift that's higher than the roof of your Range Rover.
Huh? I think you've read something that's not there. He merely said that he drove to a ski resort in his car, which is a Range Rover. He didn't state that it was the only car that could have got there I have a picture of my CBR600 next to a snow drift that's higher than the roof of your Range Rover.
The chip on your shoulder is now so large that you are replying to comments that you've made up.
I drove to a farm trade show on Wednesday in my small front wheel drive car and parked in a field that was full of various 4x4's. At the end of the show I drove home again without issue. I've been driven to ski resorts in a coach and a mini bus too.
Willy Nilly said:
Why would driving to a ski resort be worthy of note? If the roads aren't clear, the ski resort has no customers, staff or supplies.
I drove to a farm trade show on Wednesday in my small front wheel drive car and parked in a field that was full of various 4x4's. At the end of the show I drove home again without issue. I've been driven to ski resorts in a coach and a mini bus too.
It worked as a caption for the photograph he posted on a discussion about cars identical to his. You have tried to find something that just isn't there to address.I drove to a farm trade show on Wednesday in my small front wheel drive car and parked in a field that was full of various 4x4's. At the end of the show I drove home again without issue. I've been driven to ski resorts in a coach and a mini bus too.
I've been to ski resorts in all sorts of cars (and buses) as well
DrSteveBrule said:
2006/7 model years are more sorted from what I gather as they fell under Jag ownership. New engines, gearboxes, better interior etc.
Our 2007 one has nearly 150,000 on the clock (4.4 petrol) and apart from brakes and tyres it’s been very well behaved. It’s a lovely place to be.
We're looking at SUV's for around £9k, would you recommend to RR over say a Touareg or X5? Interested to know if these are still a horror show to maintain. Our 2007 one has nearly 150,000 on the clock (4.4 petrol) and apart from brakes and tyres it’s been very well behaved. It’s a lovely place to be.
My neighbour had a Supercharged version, which had done 100k+ when he bought it.
It quite literally spent 1/3 of his ownership off the road trying to have numerous, and repetitive electrical faults fixed. Which never were, despite even thr locsl LR dealership trying.
He used to try and convince me (in front of his wife, presumably to convince her that they shouldn’t sell it) that he used to get 34mpg pulling a mahoosive twin-axle caravan.
What a t
t.
I have another friend that has a TDV6 and loves it, having paid quite little for thr 5ing. However, he also has a Series II Land Rover, a Defender 110 Tdi and a Freeloader, so his bent towards all products that bare the Landrover moniker is quite obvious.
Must admit that I prefer these to the current Land Yacht, which seems to take up an inordinate amount of space, not only on the road but in car parks, but I would need one that had been serviced properly and was able to be checked on a 4post lift etc etc.
As an aside, I have a friend who knows all there is to know about the Classic, P38 and L322, and his preference for then is in that order.
The issue with Classics is rot, according to him, the P38 is straightforward but misunderstood, and after having L332s he wouldn’t own another one. Why? Because the RR became progressively more complicated as the models progressed, and the L332s had too many electrical, suspension and mechanical problems to make them a safe bet for people like him
Each to their own though 😊
It quite literally spent 1/3 of his ownership off the road trying to have numerous, and repetitive electrical faults fixed. Which never were, despite even thr locsl LR dealership trying.
He used to try and convince me (in front of his wife, presumably to convince her that they shouldn’t sell it) that he used to get 34mpg pulling a mahoosive twin-axle caravan.
What a t
t.I have another friend that has a TDV6 and loves it, having paid quite little for thr 5ing. However, he also has a Series II Land Rover, a Defender 110 Tdi and a Freeloader, so his bent towards all products that bare the Landrover moniker is quite obvious.
Must admit that I prefer these to the current Land Yacht, which seems to take up an inordinate amount of space, not only on the road but in car parks, but I would need one that had been serviced properly and was able to be checked on a 4post lift etc etc.
As an aside, I have a friend who knows all there is to know about the Classic, P38 and L322, and his preference for then is in that order.
The issue with Classics is rot, according to him, the P38 is straightforward but misunderstood, and after having L332s he wouldn’t own another one. Why? Because the RR became progressively more complicated as the models progressed, and the L332s had too many electrical, suspension and mechanical problems to make them a safe bet for people like him
Each to their own though 😊
Edited by rtz62 on Sunday 21st January 19:32
Just remember, LR are consistently last in the JD power survey. These things are expensive to run, they break down a lot, they're not well built, they have a creaky interior.
Just go into it with your eyes wide open, repair bills are not small. Discs and pads all round is over £1000, they'll need them every 2 years, front and rear. Chances are they'll need handbrake shoes and calipers also. Main dealer labour rates are around £130/hr pre vat.
You might feel big and important driving one, but you'll sour to the experience once you've had a few big bills. Dont let your heart rule your head.
Just go into it with your eyes wide open, repair bills are not small. Discs and pads all round is over £1000, they'll need them every 2 years, front and rear. Chances are they'll need handbrake shoes and calipers also. Main dealer labour rates are around £130/hr pre vat.
You might feel big and important driving one, but you'll sour to the experience once you've had a few big bills. Dont let your heart rule your head.
aaron_2000 said:
DrSteveBrule said:
2006/7 model years are more sorted from what I gather as they fell under Jag ownership. New engines, gearboxes, better interior etc.
Our 2007 one has nearly 150,000 on the clock (4.4 petrol) and apart from brakes and tyres it’s been very well behaved. It’s a lovely place to be.
We're looking at SUV's for around £9k, would you recommend to RR over say a Touareg or X5? Interested to know if these are still a horror show to maintain. Our 2007 one has nearly 150,000 on the clock (4.4 petrol) and apart from brakes and tyres it’s been very well behaved. It’s a lovely place to be.
We paid £10k in late 2015 for ours from a trade seller. 130k on the clock, FLRSH, Vogue SE spec = lots and lots of kit. It's such a capable vehicle for lugging stuff to the dump or taking the family plus luggage across europe in complete comfort. The driving position gives you a loft viewpoint and parking the thing is a doodle, you can see every corner. On rainy days you don't get a screen full of spray from the car in front and at night you aren't dazzled by oncoming traffic.
Servicing costs at an indie aren't horrendous. I think the most expensive outlay was for tyres... and petrol obvs. We've had brakes pipes replaced due to age and one of the rear parking sensors is playing up but that's not a big deal to fix. Other than that it's been a peach. My wife uses it every day to commute to work.
Negative points;
• Washing it by hand takes a while
• Petrol and road tax
The only problem is what to replace it with. It would have to be another RR. It's the most complete car I've ever driven. At least try one.
RobEB said:
Just remember, LR are consistently last in the JD power survey. These things are expensive to run, they break down a lot, they're not well built, they have a creaky interior.
Just go into it with your eyes wide open, repair bills are not small. Discs and pads all round is over £1000, they'll need them every 2 years, front and rear. Chances are they'll need handbrake shoes and calipers also. Main dealer labour rates are around £130/hr pre vat.
You might feel big and important driving one, but you'll sour to the experience once you've had a few big bills. Dont let your heart rule your head.
Thats what an Indy specialist is for! £400 for pads all round on the S/C last year, over 2 years since last done too. It threw a hissy fit with the steering sensor, that was another £430 unfortunately.Just go into it with your eyes wide open, repair bills are not small. Discs and pads all round is over £1000, they'll need them every 2 years, front and rear. Chances are they'll need handbrake shoes and calipers also. Main dealer labour rates are around £130/hr pre vat.
You might feel big and important driving one, but you'll sour to the experience once you've had a few big bills. Dont let your heart rule your head.
Car in question is now 8 years old & just short of 100k & the steering was the first non service fault.
Best to remember these were a £60k + car & will throw £60k+ car bills sometimes.
They do not all break down or creak inside either. We have had several L322`s at work, ranging from an early 3.0D, through 3.6 & 4.4 V8D all with at least average miles, but very few issues.
We did have a 2.7D in a Sport, that was the worst one, but mostly because the driver did little mileage so gave us DPF issues........ Often!
We also currently have a 16 plate L405 that has been truly awful & our Senior Partner had a 5.0 Overfinch, he only sold it because he wanted something else & as his name is over the door he can & does do what he wants with his cars.
aaron_2000 said:
We're looking at SUV's for around £9k, would you recommend to RR over say a Touareg or X5? Interested to know if these are still a horror show to maintain.
We swapped our L322 v8 for a Touareg Altitude TDV6. The Touareg was, on balance, a much nicer vehicle. It was slightly smaller but felt much more modern inside and was a lot less wallowy to drive. Although, it had nowhere near the presence afforded by the FFRR. On balance, for an every day vehicle, I think I’d lean towards the Touareg over the L322 if I had to choose again.
DrSteveBrule said:
I've never been in either of those two you mention so I can't comment. I will say, as someone who didn't really like Range Rovers until we got one, that I love the thing.
We paid £10k in late 2015 for ours from a trade seller. 130k on the clock, FLRSH, Vogue SE spec = lots and lots of kit. It's such a capable vehicle for lugging stuff to the dump or taking the family plus luggage across europe in complete comfort. The driving position gives you a loft viewpoint and parking the thing is a doodle, you can see every corner. On rainy days you don't get a screen full of spray from the car in front and at night you aren't dazzled by oncoming traffic.
Servicing costs at an indie aren't horrendous. I think the most expensive outlay was for tyres... and petrol obvs. We've had brakes pipes replaced due to age and one of the rear parking sensors is playing up but that's not a big deal to fix. Other than that it's been a peach. My wife uses it every day to commute to work.
Negative points;
• Washing it by hand takes a while
• Petrol and road tax
The only problem is what to replace it with. It would have to be another RR. It's the most complete car I've ever driven. At least try one.
Cheers for the info, we've had a family mechanic that's been doing our cars since my granddads Jag in the 70's who specialises in Jags and Land Rovers so that'd be a plus point. Just heard alot of horror stories of the reliability on the L322, mainly pre facelift. We paid £10k in late 2015 for ours from a trade seller. 130k on the clock, FLRSH, Vogue SE spec = lots and lots of kit. It's such a capable vehicle for lugging stuff to the dump or taking the family plus luggage across europe in complete comfort. The driving position gives you a loft viewpoint and parking the thing is a doodle, you can see every corner. On rainy days you don't get a screen full of spray from the car in front and at night you aren't dazzled by oncoming traffic.
Servicing costs at an indie aren't horrendous. I think the most expensive outlay was for tyres... and petrol obvs. We've had brakes pipes replaced due to age and one of the rear parking sensors is playing up but that's not a big deal to fix. Other than that it's been a peach. My wife uses it every day to commute to work.
Negative points;
• Washing it by hand takes a while
• Petrol and road tax
The only problem is what to replace it with. It would have to be another RR. It's the most complete car I've ever driven. At least try one.
schmalex said:
We swapped our L322 v8 for a Touareg Altitude TDV6. The Touareg was, on balance, a much nicer vehicle. It was slightly smaller but felt much more modern inside and was a lot less wallowy to drive. Although, it had nowhere near the presence afforded by the FFRR.
On balance, for an every day vehicle, I think I’d lean towards the Touareg over the L322 if I had to choose again.
Interesting, thanks. I swing more towards the Touareg/X5 definitely On balance, for an every day vehicle, I think I’d lean towards the Touareg over the L322 if I had to choose again.
My septuagenarian mother drives a 2002 4.4 petrol (green, “normal” windows, cream leather/carpets). Car has done c135k though the engine is it’s second and is on 35k.
It is endlessly requiring some sort of low level fix (drilling out rusted light fixings to change a bulb last week). But will she part with it? No chance.
In spite of all the trouble I know she’s had I still fancy one....
It is endlessly requiring some sort of low level fix (drilling out rusted light fixings to change a bulb last week). But will she part with it? No chance.
In spite of all the trouble I know she’s had I still fancy one....
watch this if you are seriously considering one, they are not cheap to keep on the road thats for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
Johnspex said:
I don't understand this. How is it possible to produce an unreliable car in the 21st century? Especially one that cost that much new. And what is the fabled service that is not carried out that makes it so epically unreliable?
Well, since someone mentioned Porsche earlier on, why don't you ask 911 owners about their engine failures? Or you could ask Audi RS4 owners about carbon build up, or BMW 335i owners about rattly turbos.....................etc. etc.All expensive cars, all with known problems. Range Rovers being British, though - well we love to run ourselves down don't we? Whereas ze Germans never go wrong............
Annual servicing on RR's is important because (if done by a good specialist) problems can be addressed before they become expensive. Example: changing the gearbox fluid every 50k miles will help to prevent the gearbox going bang. That's the ZF gearbox by the way. You know, the one that BMW and Audi use, that's made by ZF in Germany.
My dads had three nearly new (less than 6 months old each time) RR sports (TDV8s) of the last two variants. Each one has had serious suspension issues, his latest one needing two new full front rebuilds in under a year (under Warranty). They are lovely cars and not saying I wouldnt have one, however eyes wide open approach needed.
downhillmalins said:
watch this if you are seriously considering one, they are not cheap to keep on the road thats for sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
Watched that when it came out, I'd take anything he says very seriously that's for sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl51reRXxgE
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