300mph by year end?
Discussion
Gameface said:
Equus said:
luckystrike said:
I wonder what the 12 year old versions of all the posters who don’t seem to care about a 300mph road car would make of their adult selves.
Perhaps you can find the time to tell us, when you've got your homework done?But you don't see any irony in extolling the virtues of something because it's what a 12-year old would think is good?
I seem to remember that at 12 years of age, I thought that all girls were silly, that war was really cool and that Ford Capris could reach 160mph because that's what it said on their speedo. As a result, I don't tend to base my view of the world on what a 12 year old would be impressed by.
Equus said:
Gameface said:
Equus said:
luckystrike said:
I wonder what the 12 year old versions of all the posters who don’t seem to care about a 300mph road car would make of their adult selves.
Perhaps you can find the time to tell us, when you've got your homework done?But you don't see any irony in extolling the virtues of something because it's what a 12-year old would think is good?
I seem to remember that at 12 years of age, I thought that all girls were silly, that war was really cool and that Ford Capris could reach 160mph because that's what it said on their speedo. As a result, I don't tend to base my view of the world on what a 12 year old would be impressed by.
Pretty underhand and quite embarrassing.
And you've thrown in a personal insult for good measure.
Always the sign of maturity.
Personal insults are rarely resorted to by those winning an argument...
viggyp said:
Cold said:
Anyway, I always thought the F40 was only tested at 199mph by the various mags of the time?
I thought it was tested to 201 or 202, then the Diablo came along and matched it or was 1mph higher?! My memory is getting fuzzy admittedly!I also seem to recall that the 959 trounced both of them by about 10 mph?
DonkeyApple said:
viggyp said:
Cold said:
Anyway, I always thought the F40 was only tested at 199mph by the various mags of the time?
I thought it was tested to 201 or 202, then the Diablo came along and matched it or was 1mph higher?! My memory is getting fuzzy admittedly!I also seem to recall that the 959 trounced both of them by about 10 mph?
Journalists at the time wondered why Porsche didn't tweak the figure and claim a nice round 200mph, neatly failing to notice that the actual claim was a nice round 315kph.
Puddenchucker said:
DonkeyApple said:
viggyp said:
Cold said:
Anyway, I always thought the F40 was only tested at 199mph by the various mags of the time?
I thought it was tested to 201 or 202, then the Diablo came along and matched it or was 1mph higher?! My memory is getting fuzzy admittedly!I also seem to recall that the 959 trounced both of them by about 10 mph?
Journalists at the time wondered why Porsche didn't tweak the figure and claim a nice round 200mph, neatly failing to notice that the actual claim was a nice round 315kph.
I wonder if Koenigsegg are doing this as a diversion because they know they have no chance of matching the acceleration of Tesla's roadster (& the other inevitable EV supercars from the likes of Porsche, Ferrari etc.)
Decently fast EV will require huge investment that perhaps Koenigsegg know they won't be able to match.
Just a thought.
Decently fast EV will require huge investment that perhaps Koenigsegg know they won't be able to match.
Just a thought.
The top speed chase is more interesting to me than 0-60/100 times everyone seems obsessed with.
All that race has achieved is sticking a slushbox auto and 4WD in everything - with electric cars with enormous batteries to follow.
A production car cracking 300mph will not change how I get to work in the morning but in my eyes it'll be an awesome achievement. Producing a car that works at both 5mph and 300mph and can do more than 100 miles between services is a real challenge.
All that race has achieved is sticking a slushbox auto and 4WD in everything - with electric cars with enormous batteries to follow.
A production car cracking 300mph will not change how I get to work in the morning but in my eyes it'll be an awesome achievement. Producing a car that works at both 5mph and 300mph and can do more than 100 miles between services is a real challenge.
Debaser said:
Equus said:
Debaser said:
Whatever happened to 'Speed Matters'?
Most of the original members grew up.The hackneyed old phrase about growing old being compulsory but growing up being optional seems appropriate.
It appears that the fun Police appear to be winning, I'll just have to try harder to ignore the miserable so and so's from here on in. If that makes me childish, then great. I can think of no better compliment.
TooMany2cvs said:
Gameface said:
TooMany2cvs said:
<sigh> It's just like being back at school in the 80s...
What's wrong with members of worlds biggest car website playing top trumps like kids?Editing a post in an futile attempt to belittle other posters simply because they don't share your view.
You and equus have a lot in common.
It's a big website and the internet is incomparably large. There really is no need for you to visit this thread if it troubles you so much.
There was a time when those at the sharp end of car development held the keys to providing new technology and improvements to the masses. It was welcomed, and things like F1, Indy and NASCAR became the test bed for materials testing and technology that would filter down to road cars in later years.
The importance, and understanding of this testing has been lost, and some now see it as needless, foolish, irrelevant and pointless. In the case of the quest for 300mph, Michelin are the company set to best make use of the findings. It's the first time they've had involvement in higher than normal terminal speed tests (200mph, easy peasy, 250mph+, not quite the same). From the car manufacturer's perspective, it amounts to proof of their engineering prowess and some bragging rights, but we aren't on the cusp of a new wave of super-duper-hyper cars. I think that's the point some are getting at.
Generally speaking, Goodyear, Mickey Thompson and Hoosier have been the go to when individuals or companies have wanted to go North of 300mph. Namely at Bonneville or in drag racing. The net gain of this exercise for Michelin is a better understanding that can be built into future tyres, be it with hybrid compounds, or merely a better understanding of how forces acting on tyres are different at 300mph than at 200mph.
The importance, and understanding of this testing has been lost, and some now see it as needless, foolish, irrelevant and pointless. In the case of the quest for 300mph, Michelin are the company set to best make use of the findings. It's the first time they've had involvement in higher than normal terminal speed tests (200mph, easy peasy, 250mph+, not quite the same). From the car manufacturer's perspective, it amounts to proof of their engineering prowess and some bragging rights, but we aren't on the cusp of a new wave of super-duper-hyper cars. I think that's the point some are getting at.
Generally speaking, Goodyear, Mickey Thompson and Hoosier have been the go to when individuals or companies have wanted to go North of 300mph. Namely at Bonneville or in drag racing. The net gain of this exercise for Michelin is a better understanding that can be built into future tyres, be it with hybrid compounds, or merely a better understanding of how forces acting on tyres are different at 300mph than at 200mph.
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