RE: Focus RS owners offered 'free repair'
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dibblecorse said:
Doesnt say anything about modified vehicles from what I can see, nothing beyond warranty status and mileage, suspected modified ones are still buggered !!
It does as not a single RS is out of the std 3yr warranty window as it stands - it's effectively telling you that any car will be checked and repaired for this issueMsportman said:
Thank god I didn't buy one of these......a few laps of Castle Combe would probably see it explode.
There's a catalogue of problems on this generation of RS not to mention the rear Differential overheating in drift mode shutting down the 4WD system. .Didn't Ford conduct long term endurance testing??
So glad I bought a reliable Golf R...at least I've been able to tune it to 400bhp reliably, track it and use it as my daily driver and was able to order a 3 door!
Indeed, if the awd system shuts down on the RS the car suddenly becomes as dull as a Golf R.There's a catalogue of problems on this generation of RS not to mention the rear Differential overheating in drift mode shutting down the 4WD system. .Didn't Ford conduct long term endurance testing??
So glad I bought a reliable Golf R...at least I've been able to tune it to 400bhp reliably, track it and use it as my daily driver and was able to order a 3 door!
Luckily I have never had that happen so continue to use mine on road and track and am having much more fun all the time than if I was in a Golf.
TheAngryDog said:
KarlMac said:
They then take a reasonably reliable Mazda engine, make a big song and dance about a new cylinder head, which them promptly becomes the weak point of the whole car.
If you're thinking about the MPS engine then you're wrong. I know of many owners who have broken the engines. There is one near where I live which hasn't moved since I have lived there - I'd hazard a guess that the VVT has failed or a leg has been put out of bed.Ahbefive said:
Msportman said:
Thank god I didn't buy one of these......a few laps of Castle Combe would probably see it explode.
There's a catalogue of problems on this generation of RS not to mention the rear Differential overheating in drift mode shutting down the 4WD system. .Didn't Ford conduct long term endurance testing??
So glad I bought a reliable Golf R...at least I've been able to tune it to 400bhp reliably, track it and use it as my daily driver and was able to order a 3 door!
Indeed, if the awd system shuts down on the RS the car suddenly becomes as dull as a Golf R.There's a catalogue of problems on this generation of RS not to mention the rear Differential overheating in drift mode shutting down the 4WD system. .Didn't Ford conduct long term endurance testing??
So glad I bought a reliable Golf R...at least I've been able to tune it to 400bhp reliably, track it and use it as my daily driver and was able to order a 3 door!
Luckily I have never had that happen so continue to use mine on road and track and am having much more fun all the time than if I was in a Golf.
IanJ9375 said:
dibblecorse said:
Doesnt say anything about modified vehicles from what I can see, nothing beyond warranty status and mileage, suspected modified ones are still buggered !!
It does as not a single RS is out of the std 3yr warranty window as it stands - it's effectively telling you that any car will be checked and repaired for this issueHowever, it sounds like that would be a rare case. If it is exactly this issue with the same symptoms, it's clear it's a manufacturer defect.
culpz said:
To be picky, if Ford can prove that the modifications made to the car is, in fact, the cause of the issue, then i'm sure they could refuse.
However, it sounds like that would be a rare case. If it is exactly this issue with the same symptoms, it's clear it's a manufacturer defect.
From everything I've read I've seen plenty of tuned (beyond the Mountune approved kit) and these guys have all had their engines replaced, one of the first reported on the FocusRSOC forum was a guy who got it all sorted after being tuned elsewhere, a few since then had to do some convincing to get it done but this was prior to the repair/recall/FSA situation.However, it sounds like that would be a rare case. If it is exactly this issue with the same symptoms, it's clear it's a manufacturer defect.
As it stands whether you still have warranty or not they will repair it for this particular issue at least
hothatchery7 said:
First of all regardless of my personal opinion of Ford, at least they have accepted the faults and are willing to fix for free. Which they should. Many manufacturers fail to do this with many things and sweep it under the rug. Secondly on the reliability front, we use RS's as recce cars for Ogier and bar some trivial things. They have withstood thousands of KM's on unforgiving stages on surfaces most road cars would disintegrate on. They are back out for another year with only minor servicing. Yes it runs a sumpguard and Reiger suspension but apart from that these are standard cars as stipulated by the FIA. However to state these are unreliable pieces of turd is just not true.
Intersting post, would love to hear more.Jeff_Enthused said:
Robert-lhcbq said:
Have honda issued a recall on their chocolate civic Type R gearboxes yet?
I learned one thing buying my RS - don't do it. Don't buy any of these hatches designed to make J. Clarkson achieve orgasm on the test drive, get good press, sell to morons (me included lol) then break within three yards of driving it off the chuffin' forecourt, by which point theyve closed the gates behind you and claim its not their fault lol. Now, regardless of the Jeff bloke being a troll he has an absolute point. I bought my Type-R two years ago and I'm still absolutely loving it. I know the looks get a lot of stick but I like it and that's all that matters to me.
The fact about reliability is important though, I'm under no pretences these cars are stretching themselves to achieve the figures that they do. I bought the 5 year serving pack with mine when new and I can extend the manufacturers warranty from 3 to 5 years for £850.
The fact is the car suits me so well I think I may even keep it 5 years (it only depreciates when you sell it eh?!) but there is no way I'd run it without a warranty.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I wasn't aware of a problem with the Type-R gearboxes, again I'd love to hear more about this.
Now, regardless of the Jeff bloke being a troll he has an absolute point.
Lots of videos on youtube , search type r gearbox problems , not that its representative of course but it appears to be a known issueNow, regardless of the Jeff bloke being a troll he has an absolute point.
"Jeff" is more than a troll , he is a liar who has specifically created a second account solely with the purpose of causing trouble on the forum, something very wrong with someone who does this imo
It happens early adopters of the A45 had turbos blow aswell.
Mercedes eventually issued a recall.
And regarding selling the RS if his engine goes, Are you surprised? At what point do you think s
t this might go again and next time I will be shafted.
Regardless of he faults on the car if an owner has modded his car under no circumstances should Ford payout.
I mean why should they? Every owner who mods his car knows EXACTLY what they are doing and EVERYBODY knows you just flushed your warranty down the toilet.
You can try it on for a warranty claim sure, But don't cry on the forums like all these babies when Ford tell you to do one.
Mercedes eventually issued a recall.
And regarding selling the RS if his engine goes, Are you surprised? At what point do you think s
t this might go again and next time I will be shafted. Regardless of he faults on the car if an owner has modded his car under no circumstances should Ford payout.
I mean why should they? Every owner who mods his car knows EXACTLY what they are doing and EVERYBODY knows you just flushed your warranty down the toilet.
You can try it on for a warranty claim sure, But don't cry on the forums like all these babies when Ford tell you to do one.
liner33 said:
"Jeff" is more than a troll , he is a liar who has specifically created a second account solely with the purpose of causing trouble on the forum,
I fairness, that's pretty much exactly what the term means, prior to it being hijacked by whingers to mean "anyone who says things online I dislike"Jdjd1 said:
I Regardless of he faults on the car if an owner has modded his car under no circumstances should Ford payout.
I mean why should they? Every owner who mods his car knows EXACTLY what they are doing and EVERYBODY knows you just flushed your warranty down the toilet.
You can try it on for a warranty claim sure, But don't cry on the forums like all these babies when Ford tell you to do one.
What a load of old bI mean why should they? Every owner who mods his car knows EXACTLY what they are doing and EVERYBODY knows you just flushed your warranty down the toilet.
You can try it on for a warranty claim sure, But don't cry on the forums like all these babies when Ford tell you to do one.
ks. Ford have specifically said the opposite is true, but don't let that get in the way of a cheap trolling attempt.scarble said:
I have always said that Renaults are alright (not biased..) it's PSA that give the French a bad rep.
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I am biased. I've owned three Renaults.
liner33 said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Hmm, a few folk making videos on Youtube about it I see, a grind going into second gear? Looks like it only affects the FK8 new model?
Yes it appears to , i'm surprised that the gearbox is so different to the older model Anyway, enough of the off topic chat-all I'm trying to suggest is I don't want to run one of these modern über-hatches without a warranty. When you think of the technology they have compared to just under 10 years ago it's astounding. Some of them are bordering on GTR technology.
LaurasOtherHalf said:
Anyway, enough of the off topic chat-all I'm trying to suggest is I don't want to run one of these modern über-hatches without a warranty. When you think of the technology they have compared to just under 10 years ago it's astounding. Some of them are bordering on GTR technology.
Yep it might be a hatch but there's some expensive replacement parts on all of these cars now whether it's some clever drive unit or a DSG box etcThe extended to 5yr warranty on the RS was £320 - a bargain price to be fair with the benefit of also being applicable to the "approved" Mountune tuning packs
culpz said:
To be honest, i've never heard of any other major issues, other than this head-gasket problem, with the new Focus RS. Certainly nothing to do with malfunctions on the AWD system.
Take a look at this:http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/car-technolog...
The internet has many more complaints of not only this but other issues on this car.
I know people vent their anger when things don't go as planned but the basic underpinnings of this performance model are weak to say the least.
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