RE: Shed of the Week: Ford Mondeo 2.5 Ghia X
Discussion
BugLebowski said:
sgtBerbatov said:
Birmingham.
Go to Solihull's Land Rover plant, have a walk around the car park. The place is swimming in these ST's because the workers get them for cheap and they rag them around the roads thinking they're God's gift to sports cars.
So they get a choice of different discounted cars and they choose a hot hatch? Seems fair enough, would you prefer them to be driving SUVs?Go to Solihull's Land Rover plant, have a walk around the car park. The place is swimming in these ST's because the workers get them for cheap and they rag them around the roads thinking they're God's gift to sports cars.
sgtBerbatov said:
Plus, look at Facebook on the barn finds/cars for sale groups. All those old boys stratching their pants looking at all the Escorts, Cortina's, Capri's etc on there. All wishing they could have the blue oval tax on their driveways.
I'll agree with this, I really don't understand the price old Fords go for, it must be a generational thing. But that's discounting those who would, if given the chance, be driving a slammed Nova if the Nova's were still cheaper than the ST's.
My old man, for about 12 months, owned a Mondeo of this era (1.8 Titanium), and it was OK. That was it, just OK. Not special, and questionable in terms of reliability (gearbox was on it's way when he got shot of it). I could see why it was a reps car, yeah it was comfy but you still felt you were in a utalitarian people mobile made to be cheap to buy on the second hand market.
Personally, the only car Ford make that I can't fault is the Transit van. And yes, I know its a van.
justinio said:
HardMiles said:
Because Ford make non-aspirational, cheap, under-developed motors for the type of mr Mondeo. He sits in the third lane, because that's easy for him, regardless of travelling at 51mph to conserve fuel.
They're utter b
ks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.
C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
If you're comparing Mondeo's to old bimmers, there really is no comparison.They're utter b
ks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
I had a Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X and it was better in every single way than the E46 325ci that I had a couple of years later.
I like Mondeos personally but better than another car with 50 more hp, and rwd?
Steven_RW said:
I drive a well maintained owned from (nearly.. 5k? iirc) new 52 plate red Ghia X V6 as my daily driver. On just under 150k miles. Great car for what it is designed for. Massive room in the boot for the dog and just a relaxed lazy car.
We have had an R-plate that did 240k miles, a Y plate that did the same mileage, we had this current red one and we have two ST220 one at 245k and one much less.
The Ghia X is the lazy version compared to the ST220 but it fills that job very well. We regularly maintain the vehicles and get very good running out of them. In all that mileage including another N reg 24v V6 Mondeo, we have not had piston slap.
Combined mileage must be getting on for a million in V6 mondeos for us lot.
The weakest point in these cars in terms of performance when all working well is the brakes. They are never any good for any hard hussle. The Mk2 Mondeo had a different system by Girling (iirc, it has been a while..) and that system was much better but the Mk3 from regular to V6 to ST220 never really gave or give any confidence on hard braking more than one big press.
RW
I'd go with thatWe have had an R-plate that did 240k miles, a Y plate that did the same mileage, we had this current red one and we have two ST220 one at 245k and one much less.
The Ghia X is the lazy version compared to the ST220 but it fills that job very well. We regularly maintain the vehicles and get very good running out of them. In all that mileage including another N reg 24v V6 Mondeo, we have not had piston slap.
Combined mileage must be getting on for a million in V6 mondeos for us lot.
The weakest point in these cars in terms of performance when all working well is the brakes. They are never any good for any hard hussle. The Mk2 Mondeo had a different system by Girling (iirc, it has been a while..) and that system was much better but the Mk3 from regular to V6 to ST220 never really gave or give any confidence on hard braking more than one big press.
RW
I ran a GhiaX Estate from 20k to 110k and it was a great thing to drive if on decent tyres and aligned properly, the chassis was very good IMO but like you say let down by adequate but slightly weedy feeling brakes.
Interior was solid and way ahead of the previous models, iirc the reviews of the mk3 vs contemporary cars were very good, particularly where chassis dynamics were concerned.
I do really wonder about some of the comments on things like this sometimes.
daveco said:
justinio said:
HardMiles said:
Because Ford make non-aspirational, cheap, under-developed motors for the type of mr Mondeo. He sits in the third lane, because that's easy for him, regardless of travelling at 51mph to conserve fuel.
They're utter bks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.
C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
If you're comparing Mondeo's to old bimmers, there really is no comparison.They're utter b
ks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
I had a Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X and it was better in every single way than the E46 325ci that I had a couple of years later.
I like Mondeos personally but better than another car with 50 more hp, and rwd?
Whats that you say? Mondeo Mk3 2 seconds a lap quicker with 20hp less than the BMW E46 in the stigs hands?
Fastdruid said:
I'll just leave this one here https://vimeo.com/2070636
Whats that you say? Mondeo Mk3 2 seconds a lap quicker with 20hp less than the BMW E46 in the stigs hands?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWhats that you say? Mondeo Mk3 2 seconds a lap quicker with 20hp less than the BMW E46 in the stigs hands?
Awesome
Fastdruid said:
daveco said:
justinio said:
HardMiles said:
Because Ford make non-aspirational, cheap, under-developed motors for the type of mr Mondeo. He sits in the third lane, because that's easy for him, regardless of travelling at 51mph to conserve fuel.
They're utter bks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.
C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
If you're comparing Mondeo's to old bimmers, there really is no comparison.They're utter b
ks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
I had a Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X and it was better in every single way than the E46 325ci that I had a couple of years later.
I like Mondeos personally but better than another car with 50 more hp, and rwd?
Whats that you say? Mondeo Mk3 2 seconds a lap quicker with 20hp less than the BMW E46 in the stigs hands?
Isn't that a 2.0 mondeo with 143hp against a 318...with 143hp?
Mondeo appears to be running lower profile tyres on non standard alloy wheels compared to the rest of the competition on 15/16 inch standard tyre/wheel set ups.
daveco said:
Fastdruid said:
daveco said:
justinio said:
HardMiles said:
Because Ford make non-aspirational, cheap, under-developed motors for the type of mr Mondeo. He sits in the third lane, because that's easy for him, regardless of travelling at 51mph to conserve fuel.
They're utter bks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.
C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
If you're comparing Mondeo's to old bimmers, there really is no comparison.They're utter b
ks. You could buy an e38 / e39 that's been to the sun and back that'd be 1000 x better than this utter bag of wk.C'mon Shed! You can do better than that! I'd rather tread in dog turd!
I had a Mondeo 2.0 Ghia X and it was better in every single way than the E46 325ci that I had a couple of years later.
I like Mondeos personally but better than another car with 50 more hp, and rwd?
Whats that you say? Mondeo Mk3 2 seconds a lap quicker with 20hp less than the BMW E46 in the stigs hands?
Isn't that a 2.0 mondeo with 143hp against a 318...with 143hp?
Mondeo appears to be running lower profile tyres on non standard alloy wheels compared to the rest of the competition on 15/16 inch standard tyre/wheel set ups.
Edited by Fastdruid on Friday 26th January 15:47
Ah, the joys of approaching retirement 
I cam look at all these posts saying "I had whatever car from this century, and it was the worst ever!", and think to myself "Whatever may be the worst car you've ever driven, but -you- never owned a 1974 1.8 Marina estate!"
Now they really, really -were- awful
I cam look at all these posts saying "I had whatever car from this century, and it was the worst ever!", and think to myself "Whatever may be the worst car you've ever driven, but -you- never owned a 1974 1.8 Marina estate!"
Now they really, really -were- awful
Gojira said:
Ah, the joys of approaching retirement
I cam look at all these posts saying "I had whatever car from this century, and it was the worst ever!", and think to myself "Whatever may be the worst car you've ever driven, but -you- never owned a 1974 1.8 Marina estate!"
Now they really, really -were- awful
I recall my dad having one in the 80s ... awful puke green ... was always knackered and needing something fixed on it ... THAT was a shed lolI cam look at all these posts saying "I had whatever car from this century, and it was the worst ever!", and think to myself "Whatever may be the worst car you've ever driven, but -you- never owned a 1974 1.8 Marina estate!"
Now they really, really -were- awful
daveco said:
Eh?
Isn't that a 2.0 mondeo with 143hp against a 318...with 143hp?
Mondeo appears to be running lower profile tyres on non standard alloy wheels compared to the rest of the competition on 15/16 inch standard tyre/wheel set ups.
Is that the best you’ve got? Isn't that a 2.0 mondeo with 143hp against a 318...with 143hp?
Mondeo appears to be running lower profile tyres on non standard alloy wheels compared to the rest of the competition on 15/16 inch standard tyre/wheel set ups.
It still pooped on the rest proving what a great chassis it has, even that chat beforehand tells you that.
They were good cars
poing said:
There seems to be a large age divide in this thread
Luckily I'm a bit older so I like a bit of old V6 Mondeo. Although it's telling that the 2.5 V6 in this has less power than my current Fiesta, never thought I'd see that day when the Mondeo came out.
I was quite happy when I had my V6 Mondeos with 168bhp from 2.5 Litres...because my Xr4x4's only mustered 150bhp from 2.9 Litres! Luckily I'm a bit older so I like a bit of old V6 Mondeo. Although it's telling that the 2.5 V6 in this has less power than my current Fiesta, never thought I'd see that day when the Mondeo came out.
It is amazing just how far bhp has come on with engines...although it has needed to in some ways...with how heavy cars are nowadays with the extra crash protection etc.
This car is way over-priced. But anyone who slags Mondeo's of this era have either never driven one, or are so blinded by badge snobbery and the perception of executive that surrounds German brands, that they've lost all sense. The Mondeo was (and to a lesser extent, still is) a great car). They are seriously comfy motorway cruisers that just happen to have an excellent chassis and handling dynamics. I remember my dad having a 2.0 Ghia X as company car (2000, so previous model to this), it was a lovely thing, all the toys and a great machine. He got a promotion by the time it was due to go back, so replaced it with a mid level C200, which was quicker and had a great pose factor, be he still swears it was nowhere near as good as the Ford.
Hi everybody I've had a mk3 2lt from when it was traded in 2006 at 3 years old. Some call it a shed but I can't fault it. Driven it for 11 years with over 150k on the clock now. Still faster than quite a few boy racers who just look in astonishment when you leave them standing in the middle lane. You can throw it into corners and you know you will still be alive when you exit without losing any grip, who needs traction control? A big thumbs up to ford.
Over a period of years I was 'issued' with Mondeo L's , LX's then Ghia Mondeo's & later Granada Ghias's (although I was allowed to choose colour including metallic and manual or auto) & they were a superb drive. The Mondeo's were the best, smooth, spacious & quiet. The Granada's too large & unwieldy but I supposed it impressed some. At 70K miles the Granada's were a bag of nails, the Mondeo's markedly less so.
It was a Mondeo estate that took me across much of Europe on business & to this day I recall its comfort & ease of controls. Many many hours behind the wheel & I still got out refreshed. Somehow choosing a poncy premium brand just to show-off seemed unnecessary & in the eyes of my then MD would have showed poor & shallow judgement.
It was a Mondeo estate that took me across much of Europe on business & to this day I recall its comfort & ease of controls. Many many hours behind the wheel & I still got out refreshed. Somehow choosing a poncy premium brand just to show-off seemed unnecessary & in the eyes of my then MD would have showed poor & shallow judgement.
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