RE: Renault Megane R.S: Generation Game

[ivorbigun]

I love my wife's 175DCi. Just tipped 185k miles and can't see us selling it any time soon. Just refreshed front suspension bushes/ball joints/swivel bearings/top mounts and new cup shocks and eibach springs all round and it drives like a new car again - and an easy 40mpg.

[Itsallicanafford]

Krikkit said:

Itsallicanafford said:

Ha! Yes there was about a 2 month overlap between getting the Cup-S before the Rallye was sold....really enjoyed my 2 years with the 106 but it pretty much ruined me to keep it on the road + i had convinced myself that i was going to have a minor crash in it and be killed...

It won't make you feel any better, but I had a medium-sized shunt in mine and lived without being killed to death. Sadly it didn't make it though.

Your a lucky man, i would have bought a lottery ticket that week...Ah well, better to have loved and to have lost and all that....

[GrumpyTwig]

Alex_6n2 said:

culpz said:

Well that's hardly surprising now, is it, considering that your 182 was a 13 year old car and you've now jumped in a brand new 2018 275? Even with the depreciation to consider, which isn't going to potentially bite you until the end of your ownership anyway.

Age makes little or no difference to the Megane being cheaper on fuel and consumables

I wasn't being specific about my car, broadly speaking the entire MK3 RSMegane range is more reliable than the MK3 RSClio from what I've seen.

Having owned both and been part of both ownership communities, I'm just trying to share my experience with you

The Megane still has its set of issues though. The clutch slave cylinders going is a common and expensive to fix issue, along with the hub bearings wearing so often they're essentially consumables.

I had both and in reality they were both as good/bad as each other, though the Megane cost me a lot more even if I'd paid to replace the Clio's gearbox (it had it done under warranty) easily £3000+ in breakages on top of usual maintenance.

[culpz]

Alex_6n2 said:

culpz said:

Well that's hardly surprising now, is it, considering that your 182 was a 13 year old car and you've now jumped in a brand new 2018 275? Even with the depreciation to consider, which isn't going to potentially bite you until the end of your ownership anyway.

Age makes little or no difference to the Megane being cheaper on fuel and consumables

I wasn't being specific about my car, broadly speaking the entire MK3 RSMegane range is more reliable than the MK3 RSClio from what I've seen.

Having owned both and been part of both ownership communities, I'm just trying to share my experience with you

Sorry, i thought it was a 2018 Megane as apposed 2016. But, still, it's a 2 year old car under warranty, so my point still stands, which is that it's a given to say it's cheaper on consumables. I was actually comparing the Clio's running costs, maintenance and consumables to the equivalent 225 Megane at the time, not the 250.

I was also talking specifically about the MK2 Clio 172/182 and not the MK3 197/200. I know the latter become heavier and much less fuel-efficient than it's predecessors.

How much difference we talking fuel wise between the Clio and the Meg? I've always noticed many saying how frugal the 172's/182's are yet the 250's are more susceptible to a drink.

[Frimley111R]

culpz said:

WCZ said:

good cars but in my mind always in the shadow of the rs clios as they just didn't feel nimble and felt huge
there's a nice selection of used cars there and the trophy looks good value (I bet many people bought them because of the r26r had such good depreciation)

I'd probably agree with you there. From the 250 iteration onwards, the Megane became a really capable and surprisingly reliable car from it's predecessor. However, they are quite big cars. The 225's are quite a decent size but did have their fair share of issues. However, Ben Lowden on here, did say how surprisingly nimble his new 250 feels.

I've always preferred the Clio's over the Megane's, due to their simplicity, size and that they're fairly cheap to maintain/run in comparison. You could say that's changed with the MK4 but that's simply the way with hot-hatches these days. I'm looking forward to hopefully buying my own 172/182 in the next few months.

Sold my RS265 because it just felt too big, I now have an R26 with 116k. I doubt it feels much different to when it had 40k on the clock. I love that its small and fast but not as small as a Clio

[clarki]

Had an R26 then an R26r. Both fantastic cars. R26 was a great daily that wasn't bad on track either. r was a great, actually fantastic, track toy that wasn't bad as a daily either.
Really hope the new car is good.

[maxdb]

What game is the top pic from?

[Hol]

I bought a low miles slightly unrated R26 as a train station car, when my S4 hit three years.

It reminds me a lot of the 182 cup I bought the wife back in 2005, and it’s a damn good hot hatch to be honest.

I am going to try it on track next month, although it will never be the dedicated track car.

[anonymous-user]

culpz said:

I'd probably agree with you there. From the 250 iteration onwards, the Megane became a really capable and surprisingly reliable car from it's predecessor. However, they are quite big cars. The 225's are quite a decent size but did have their fair share of issues. However, Ben Lowden on here, did say how surprisingly nimble his new 250 feels.

I've always preferred the Clio's over the Megane's, due to their simplicity, size and that they're fairly cheap to maintain/run in comparison. You could say that's changed with the MK4 but that's simply the way with hot-hatches these days. I'm looking forward to hopefully buying my own 172/182 in the next few months.

Go for a 172 cup if you are just using it as a fun car. You'll never want to sell it if you find a good one.

[Alex_6n2]

culpz said:

How much difference we talking fuel wise between the Clio and the Meg? I've always noticed many saying how frugal the 172's/182's are yet the 250's are more susceptible to a drink.

Over the 5 years I owned a Clio 182 it averaged about 24mpg on my commute to work.The Megane manages 29mpg.

On track the Meg definitely drinks more, but that's a given

[roystinho]

Always wanted an R26.R, but those god damn harnesses. At the time went for the Clio V6 as could get the car seat in the passenger side. Been out in one a few times, outrageous car with the ti exhaust... one day maybe...

[ws323f]

maxdb said:

What game is the top pic from?

Looks like Project Cars 2 to me.

[egor110]

Alex_6n2 said:

culpz said:

How much difference we talking fuel wise between the Clio and the Meg? I've always noticed many saying how frugal the 172's/182's are yet the 250's are more susceptible to a drink.

Over the 5 years I owned a Clio 182 it averaged about 24mpg on my commute to work.The Megane manages 29mpg.

On track the Meg definitely drinks more, but that's a given

That's horrendous mpg , i had a 172 cup and did a mile and half commute to work and that still showed a average of 33 mpg .

[Darren61]

I had a liquid yellow R26 as my first proper hot hatch and absolutely loved it. Such a great car, so much fun to drive and such a sense of occasion for a hot hatch. Now I’ve got a longer commute I own a 175 DCI and I’m glad PH decided to include it as it’s a great car with a very punchy engine, it has as much in-gear acceleration as an R26 and genuinely does return 40mpg however you drive it. I did own an S3 (8P) between these cars and although 265bhp + Quattro was fun it a straight line, both the diesel and (obviously) petrol RenaultSport Meganes wiped the floor with it in terms of handling and having that ‘fun factor’.

On the point about the Clio’s. I’ve owned 2 of them. A 182 as a daily a few years back, this car you could drive everywhere like a vicar or a track day hero and it would still return 30(ish) mpg. Great cars though, so much so I’ve got myself a 182 Cup that I’m turning into a track toy.

Follow ‘clio182cup’ on Instagram to see the progress..

[Simon Owen]

Had three of these now starting with an F1 Team 230 and the latter a 275 Trophy with Ohlins.

Not to all tastes I know, and they do come with a few compromises but it amazes me that virtually whatever I get out of the Trophy still feels special afterwards, particularly if out and about on decent roads.

It's not the performance either but more the composure, steering and the way it changes direction that amazes !!

Vices - Too much grip ? firm ride (even with Ohlins set to soft B Road setting), below average MPG and some steering corruption due to FWD/LSD.

Fascinated to see what Renaultsport have done with the new one ..... problem is they are as good as Team Sky at marginal gains so this will likely be just the start of the journey !!

[blearyeyedboy]

Hmm. The fact that PH are promoting this suggests we're likely to see a very positive article about the new one tomorrow.

[Simon Owen]

egor110 said:

That's horrendous mpg , i had a 172 cup and did a mile and half commute to work and that still showed a average of 33 mpg .

Yup !! My trip currently shows about 26 mpg average but that is very much a worst case, i.e. a combination of spirited driving (when I can) plus a god dam awful 13x mile commute.

With a sensible foot and on better journeys mid 30's is easily possible.

[Jon_S_Rally]

Looking forward to seeing some feedback on the new one. I love a Renault Sport. Got a Clio 172 Cup that's taken over 130k miles of abuse which I can't bare to sell and a 2013 265 Megane for a daily. Had a Golf 7R before the Megane and the Renault just feels so special compared to the VW. Compromised in a few areas of course but, with the fancy Recaro seats, it does feel an event to drive considering its just a hatchback. My only real criticisms are that the ride is a little harsh with Cup chassis and 19" wheels, the seating position is a touch high for someone who is 6'3 and it does feel surprisingly wide on the road. Storming car though. Always amazes me when I go to the 'ring and see them tearing round, passing virtually everything else there.

Here is mine. Quite unusual in Capsicum Pink. Sorry, Red. You can see the much-abused Clio in the background too.

IMG_20170325_165809 by Jon Scoltock, on Flickr

The question is, to modify, or not to modify?!

[egor110]

how come you've got rid of the cups turinis ?

[nickfrog]

Jon_S_Rally said:

The question is, to modify, or not to modify?!

Thing is that all it needs is RBF600, PF pads and some semis to make it a track ready car.. You ll need to be upgrading to 18' too IMO.