RE: Renault Megane R.S: Driven
Discussion
What a terribly written article. What is this chap trying to prove and to whom?
Anyway, I really like the new Megane and I truly think it offers more than the competition. It does sound that they might have nailed the balance between ride and performance, something like the old model lacks of. Best of both worlds potentially? Can't wait to drive one.
Anyway, I really like the new Megane and I truly think it offers more than the competition. It does sound that they might have nailed the balance between ride and performance, something like the old model lacks of. Best of both worlds potentially? Can't wait to drive one.
culpz said:
Quickmoose said:
culpz said:
"As you were" is a phrase you numpty 
I was simply shocked that you were so offended by a subjective choice of wheel colour.
I've never ever seen that before being detested so profusely. Then you started jibbering on.
I know... it's also over used and very on-trend on PH I was simply shocked that you were so offended by a subjective choice of wheel colour.
I've never ever seen that before being detested so profusely. Then you started jibbering on.
I've not said I'm offended by it. My dislike for it was/is just an observation and opinion based on the car being discussed....you know the actual thread subject...
It'd be better if other opinions about the car wee offered rather than you derailing it and waffling on incorrectly about how many other people or forums don't discuss wheel colour...
By all means start a thread about moaning eejits like me and my niche dislikes...
I've contributed many times to this thread, if you would like to read back over the pages. Derailing a thread would be more like someone banging on about how horrible they think black wheels are. But, hey, each to their own.
I've only been 'banging on' cos you don't know when to stop
Other contributors have managed to discuss it maturely... But hey, each to their own.....
Can we bang on about the EDC now?
Edited by Quickmoose on Thursday 1st February 21:46
I really like the look of this new Mégane RS, and with 5 doors it becomes a viable family car for me.
The lack of rear doors was the main barrier to me buying the last one.
However, it's hard to maintain enthusiasm while reading this article. Quite apart from any comments on Nic Cackett's writing style, good or bad, the article has a vibe of someone who feels he needs to write to an enthusiastic audience, but he seems quite underwhelmed by the subject matter and would rather be down the pub than doing laps in the Mégane.
It's quite a day when I feel more enthusiasm after reading an Auto Express article than a PH one. It also seems out of step with the more warm reception given by most other media outlets, though admittedly it's not universal praise.
Nic, were you just bored/unimpressed by the car?
The lack of rear doors was the main barrier to me buying the last one.
However, it's hard to maintain enthusiasm while reading this article. Quite apart from any comments on Nic Cackett's writing style, good or bad, the article has a vibe of someone who feels he needs to write to an enthusiastic audience, but he seems quite underwhelmed by the subject matter and would rather be down the pub than doing laps in the Mégane.
It's quite a day when I feel more enthusiasm after reading an Auto Express article than a PH one. It also seems out of step with the more warm reception given by most other media outlets, though admittedly it's not universal praise.
Nic, were you just bored/unimpressed by the car?
blearyeyedboy said:
I really like the look of this new Mégane RS, and with 5 doors it becomes a viable family car for me.
The lack of rear doors was the main barrier to me buying the last one.
However, it's hard to maintain enthusiasm while reading this article. Quite apart from any comments on Nic Cackett's writing style, good or bad, the article has a vibe of someone who feels he needs to write to an enthusiastic audience, but he seems quite underwhelmed by the subject matter and would rather be down the pub than doing laps in the Mégane.
It's quite a day when I feel more enthusiasm after reading an Auto Express article than a PH one. It also seems out of step with the more warm reception given by most other media outlets, though admittedly it's not universal praise.
Nic, were you just bored/unimpressed by the car?
I totally agree with this. It just comes across as 'meh'.The lack of rear doors was the main barrier to me buying the last one.
However, it's hard to maintain enthusiasm while reading this article. Quite apart from any comments on Nic Cackett's writing style, good or bad, the article has a vibe of someone who feels he needs to write to an enthusiastic audience, but he seems quite underwhelmed by the subject matter and would rather be down the pub than doing laps in the Mégane.
It's quite a day when I feel more enthusiasm after reading an Auto Express article than a PH one. It also seems out of step with the more warm reception given by most other media outlets, though admittedly it's not universal praise.
Nic, were you just bored/unimpressed by the car?
Quickmoose said:
Good for you. Many times eh... Well that must mean you own and police the thread and decide what's worthy then...
I've only been 'banging on' cos you don't know when to stop
Other contributors have managed to discuss it maturely... But hey, each to their own.....
Can we bang on about the EDC now?
You're a great story teller of make-believe, i'll give you that I've only been 'banging on' cos you don't know when to stop
Other contributors have managed to discuss it maturely... But hey, each to their own.....
Can we bang on about the EDC now?
Edited by Quickmoose on Thursday 1st February 21:46
I'd have the EDC. I liked it in the Clio but i reckon it'd suit this Megane much more. It's just a shame that it's not the same 7-speed wet clutch from the new Alpine, which appears to be a big improvement.
anonymous said:
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I think I'd be sticking with the manual too.I like my Clio EDC, the gearbox is great and it's been fantastic in heavy traffic, but to be honest, I haven't bonded with it like I have with my other cars, and I think it'd down to the gearbox - I just miss the interaction of a manual.
I've just twigged that Perfohub suspension is going to be on both versions, not just the Cup.
Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
It depends what your priorities are really. Based on the old shape, the Cup is not particularly pleasant on long distances, including getting to the track and the Sport might indeed make for a better daily companion.
The LSD is as useful on the road than on track IME, although as the new shape has a more aggressive item, this may tip the balance... The Drexler equipped MK3 are a handful on the road.
The LSD is as useful on the road than on track IME, although as the new shape has a more aggressive item, this may tip the balance... The Drexler equipped MK3 are a handful on the road.
blearyeyedboy said:
I've just twigged that Perfohub suspension is going to be on both versions, not just the Cup.
Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
I think, yes.Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
I reckon its only here that members babble on so angrily about EDC and PDK 
That's the story I'm telling and I'm sticking to it.
Fair play to Renault offering a manual though...it'll sell a couple I'm sure. The rest will be EDC, because trendy.
I've driven torque converters, PDK, single clutch paddle shift.....
They each have their own qualities, but for me, in a car like this, EDC does not suit it. It's the option for the non-enthusuast. Just lazy.
Unless you're going to track it and want/need ultimate attack lap time efficiency. I which case you'd be wanting a car without air con and leather and sound proofing too....
That's the story I'm telling and I'm sticking to it.
Fair play to Renault offering a manual though...it'll sell a couple I'm sure. The rest will be EDC, because trendy.
I've driven torque converters, PDK, single clutch paddle shift.....
They each have their own qualities, but for me, in a car like this, EDC does not suit it. It's the option for the non-enthusuast. Just lazy.
Unless you're going to track it and want/need ultimate attack lap time efficiency. I which case you'd be wanting a car without air con and leather and sound proofing too....
Peanus said:
This verbose and sciolistic article reeks of a man treating his keyboard as though it were the shaft of his erect ego, lasciviously tapping away and wryly smiling as he births onto the screen his unseen genius, with each stroke bringing him closer to climax.
Haha - brilliant!blearyeyedboy said:
I've just twigged that Perfohub suspension is going to be on both versions, not just the Cup.
Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
The non-cup still had perfohub on the previous generation too. Most owners seemed happy with them and certainly didn't complain about lack of traction.Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
blearyeyedboy said:
I've just twigged that Perfohub suspension is going to be on both versions, not just the Cup.
Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
Ohlins equipped cup chassis mk3 cars ride beautifully in my experience, presumably this will not be an option on mk4? Or not yet until trophy models come out Clearly traction will be less limited with an LSD, but for drivers who won't track it, will it make much of a difference? That extra compliance might make increasingly potholed roads more of a flowing drive.
I know it's heresy in RS circles to say this, so I'll whisper...
Could the non-Cup version with a manual gearbox be the sweet spot in the range?
Quickmoose said:
I reckon its only here that members babble on so angrily about EDC and PDK
That's the story I'm telling and I'm sticking to it.
Fair play to Renault offering a manual though...it'll sell a couple I'm sure. The rest will be EDC, because trendy.
I've driven torque converters, PDK, single clutch paddle shift.....
They each have their own qualities, but for me, in a car like this, EDC does not suit it. It's the option for the non-enthusuast. Just lazy.
Unless you're going to track it and want/need ultimate attack lap time efficiency. I which case you'd be wanting a car without air con and leather and sound proofing too....
Well, no, that's a big debate and always has been. Comparing that topic to you whinging about a colour choice of alloy wheels is hysterical though That's the story I'm telling and I'm sticking to it.
Fair play to Renault offering a manual though...it'll sell a couple I'm sure. The rest will be EDC, because trendy.
I've driven torque converters, PDK, single clutch paddle shift.....
They each have their own qualities, but for me, in a car like this, EDC does not suit it. It's the option for the non-enthusuast. Just lazy.
Unless you're going to track it and want/need ultimate attack lap time efficiency. I which case you'd be wanting a car without air con and leather and sound proofing too....
Each to their own i guess, but it's completely subjective. There will be enthusiasts out there that will opt for the EDC. You can call it what you want, but a decent dual-clutch gearbox is quite appealing to some.
Regiment said:
Looks very under powered compared to its competition that all generally have a good 50hp or more. I know being an RS Megane it doesn’t need the extra power with the Mk3 with 250hp making the mk2 305hp Focus RS look silly on a track, but I dream of the day that Renault put a proper engine in the Megane and marry it with all the Renault Sport knowhow.
It also looks to be not as pretty as the Mk3 Megane either.
Probably already mentioned (sorry if so) but I remember watching a Chris Harris video where they dyno’d both; the Megane was about 20bhp up on book figures and the Focus 20bhp down, making them about equal. It also looks to be not as pretty as the Mk3 Megane either.
nickfrog said:
It depends what your priorities are really. Based on the old shape, the Cup is not particularly pleasant on long distances, including getting to the track and the Sport might indeed make for a better daily companion.
The LSD is as useful on the road than on track IME, although as the new shape has a more aggressive item, this may tip the balance... The Drexler equipped MK3 are a handful on the road.
This is true. I see the benefits of some form of LSD, even on the road. Acknowledging that an e-diff will be inferior to a Torsen, it's whether the other toys (Perfohub, 4-wheel steer) will make that difference small enough that the additional compliance of the "soft" version will be more fun for some people.The LSD is as useful on the road than on track IME, although as the new shape has a more aggressive item, this may tip the balance... The Drexler equipped MK3 are a handful on the road.
I have a suspicion that my assertion will be held up as a stupid comment in years to come that I shall be ashamed of.
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