RE: Shed of the Week: Jaguar X-Type
Discussion
Sebastian Tombs said:
I've only ever been in one X Type, which was doing duty as a cab on Guernsey.
It creaked and rattled worse than any other car I've been in, and bits of trim were falling off.
It was an absolute heap of s
t and spoke volumes about the lack of build quality or design integrity that went into these cars.
So you've only ever been in the one, and it was a taxi?.............................................and you've chosen to use that example as your yardstick? Mkay then!It creaked and rattled worse than any other car I've been in, and bits of trim were falling off.
It was an absolute heap of s
t and spoke volumes about the lack of build quality or design integrity that went into these cars.Bit like saying you lost your virginity to a very experienced prostitute but the encounter put you off women.
PoopahScoopah said:
So you've only ever been in the one, and it was a taxi?.............................................and you've chosen to use that example as your yardstick? Mkay then!
Bit like saying you lost your virginity to a very experienced prostitute but the encounter put you off women.
The old thing was probably loosened up by too many men in the rearBit like saying you lost your virginity to a very experienced prostitute but the encounter put you off women.
Edited by daemon on Friday 2nd February 23:10
Love my X Type. So much so I've moved it out to Sweden now. Regularly does Arctic trips seeing temps of -40C
https://youtu.be/Qgd44l7jLqc
https://youtu.be/Qgd44l7jLqc
M4TT C said:
Love my X Type. So much so I've moved it out to Sweden now. Regularly does Arctic trips seeing temps of -40C
https://youtu.be/Qgd44l7jLqc
Looks like fun!https://youtu.be/Qgd44l7jLqc
r11co said:
PS. Error in the article. The autoboxes on these were Jatco, not ZF.
Yep, which was a troublesome POS of a box in this application IME. A lot of them ended up with replacement remanufactured Jatco boxes fitted earlier in their lives. Awful job to change especially with the added PITA of the small and fragile transfer box on there. daemon said:
Surely the fact that this one has made it through 17 years and HASNT rotted from the inside out kind of proves that wrong?
How do you know? They rot from the inside outwards, that's the clue.By the time the MOT tester spots a few bubbles and slaps a s
tty patch over it, the entire inner sills have lost the vast majority of their structural integrity, they'd behave like wet cardboard the first time someone runs into you.
MrBodgefix said:
Two Mondeo's in as many weeks! sorry i couldn't resist! Joking aside i recon that's a top class shed. I had a Mondy ST220 for three and a half years so i imagine that power unit with 4wd traction would be quite a weapon in the wet. i dont see the sills as a big issue. get them plated up and plastered with underseal and it will be concealed by the sideskirts.
I ran a 3.0 Sovereign (manual) for over three years and 30k miles, and it was the best daily driver I've had so far.
Comfortable, quiet and reliable, with a good turn of speed. Nice rear biased handling too.
The voice command (which works well!), heated screen and heated seats I really miss.
Fuel economy was fine for a 3.0 AWD, my commute seeing 32 - 34mpg week in, week out.
Aside from the usual consumables, I changed two O2 sensors and the rear ARB bushes, both easy enough jobs.
If you're thinking about buying one of these, the trick is to buy one that was a few years into the production run, when build quality and reliability issues have been ironed out. I suppose that applies to any car really.
IMHO, the sweet spot is late 2004 to early 2006 cars. The sills had been sorted by then with extra drainage to avoid the trapped water. Mine was registered 01/03/06 iirc, so avoided the £535 tax.
I'd seriously consider another actually, if a really nice one comes along I may be tempted...
Gratuitous old photo of mine
Comfortable, quiet and reliable, with a good turn of speed. Nice rear biased handling too.
The voice command (which works well!), heated screen and heated seats I really miss.
Fuel economy was fine for a 3.0 AWD, my commute seeing 32 - 34mpg week in, week out.
Aside from the usual consumables, I changed two O2 sensors and the rear ARB bushes, both easy enough jobs.
If you're thinking about buying one of these, the trick is to buy one that was a few years into the production run, when build quality and reliability issues have been ironed out. I suppose that applies to any car really.
IMHO, the sweet spot is late 2004 to early 2006 cars. The sills had been sorted by then with extra drainage to avoid the trapped water. Mine was registered 01/03/06 iirc, so avoided the £535 tax.
I'd seriously consider another actually, if a really nice one comes along I may be tempted...
Gratuitous old photo of mine
Loved mine, although I paid 2300 for it 7 years ago with 53K on the clock, so I would argue that this is overpriced.
With the Jatco autobox it wasn't the fastest. lovely place to be though and a fine drive. The AWD meant that winters and poor weather were not as much a concern as the faster 330i would have been.
I couldn't afford the 330i anyway, as the Jag had the "mondeo" tag the price nosedived fast, and made them a sheddable car for me!
It was a juicy thing though, 21mpg in regular running, 30 or so on a run.
It died the fortnight before we moved to Australia with a big end knock, and was punted on at 500.
I think that may have been me underfilling at an oil change though...
A look at the MOT history site shows it went back on the road, although it's out of MOT in 2017 so might have finally died...
PhillipM said:
daemon said:
Surely the fact that this one has made it through 17 years and HASNT rotted from the inside out kind of proves that wrong?
How do you know? They rot from the inside outwards, that's the clue.By the time the MOT tester spots a few bubbles and slaps a s
tty patch over it, the entire inner sills have lost the vast majority of their structural integrity, they'd behave like wet cardboard the first time someone runs into you.Absolutely worth checking the status of them and no doubt it will need welding at some point - as will most 17 year old cars - but i think its a bit unfair to dramatise it as a rot box.
My dad had a 2001 one up until Jan last year. I dont think it ever had had the sills welded.
Edited by daemon on Saturday 3rd February 12:46
Because nobody ever looked properly?
I've looked at about two dozen of them as my brother was after one - and I already knew about the sills after my dad's dissolved - every single car for sale that I looked at within about 60 miles, needed some welding work - a good 3-4 of them you could stick your thumb through the sill it was so rotten - including some from garages with a fresh ticket and some terrible patchwork under them!
They are rust traps, they're such rust traps that even Jaguar tried to modify the sills on later cars to improve it, which helped a little, but they still rot.
Like I said, they can look fine from the outside (especially given there's also a plastic cover over the top of this as well remember):
Until you actually get in there:
And half the car falls out in flakes:
And the only sign of it will be some bubbling or thin spots underneath - the usual mot tester will just slap a small patch over that bit and cover it with underseal, but, as I said, they rot inside-out - so the actual structural sections look like this by then:
And you end up cutting back even further than this, through the next two panels to the floorpan in fact if you want to actually fix it.
There's loads of guys with the same set of photo's on the owners club when they've cut them out to repair them properly instead a patch and some underseal, just hit google.
I've looked at about two dozen of them as my brother was after one - and I already knew about the sills after my dad's dissolved - every single car for sale that I looked at within about 60 miles, needed some welding work - a good 3-4 of them you could stick your thumb through the sill it was so rotten - including some from garages with a fresh ticket and some terrible patchwork under them!
They are rust traps, they're such rust traps that even Jaguar tried to modify the sills on later cars to improve it, which helped a little, but they still rot.
Like I said, they can look fine from the outside (especially given there's also a plastic cover over the top of this as well remember):
Until you actually get in there:
And half the car falls out in flakes:
And the only sign of it will be some bubbling or thin spots underneath - the usual mot tester will just slap a small patch over that bit and cover it with underseal, but, as I said, they rot inside-out - so the actual structural sections look like this by then:
And you end up cutting back even further than this, through the next two panels to the floorpan in fact if you want to actually fix it.
There's loads of guys with the same set of photo's on the owners club when they've cut them out to repair them properly instead a patch and some underseal, just hit google.
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