RE: 2018 Toyota Land Cruiser: Driven
Discussion
Bill said:
LasseV said:
No it doesn't.
Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but I like to be able to overtake and get up to speed reasonably briskly. And while it's mostly adequate off road in sand and on long ascents you need more IME.That's why this car in this spec has far more appeal than any RRS for example.
But I do have other cars - this is not something I would have if I could only have one car.
Bill said:
Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but I like to be able to overtake and get up to speed reasonably briskly. And while it's mostly adequate off road in sand and on long ascents you need more IME.
It has overtaking abilities for sure, that is not a problem. But this car is for smooth driving. Smooth acceleration/braking, going corners smoothly etc. And for off road, this thing has more than enough power. I have driven steep hills with off road trucks with far worse p/w ratio and without problems. Low gearing, hooray.This thing is totally different than xc90/x5 etc
TobyLerone said:
Why won't Toyota officially bring us the new 70 series?!
The poverty pack 70 series wagon is A$5k more than we paid for the GXL Prado (more fruit but not the full hamper) - it has a sweet engine for sure... but the interior hasn't been upgraded since 1985 and back then it wasn't much of a step up from the 1970's version! It is a proper workhorse and absolutely not a show pony.Bill said:
LasseV said:
No it doesn't.
Obviously it's a matter of opinion, but I like to be able to overtake and get up to speed reasonably briskly. And while it's mostly adequate off road in sand and on long ascents you need more IME.
I'm seriously thinking of getting a new Invincible spec Land Cruiser with a view to keeping it forever. Particularly now that they've given the engine a bit more power since this review was written which is very welcome. I know outright performance is definitely not the point of these and if I was too bothered about it I wouldn't be looking in the first place - but nigh-on 13 seconds to 60 was pretty crap for anything let alone a £60k car (or 'car'). With the modest hike in power to 200-ish bhp it'll be just about alright IMO, so it could well be the first (and quite possibly last!), car I buy new.
Funny, but we are buying as a keeper and just toying with invincible spec vs Active. The Active is basically the Utility spec plus 18” alloys. Same velour inside. Price difference from carwow is £13500… you do get more spec and I like heated and cooled seats!
Looking at the longer term values, a 3 year old Invincible is circa £48k and Active £36k retail. So they keep the spread of price from new.
Looking at the longer term values, a 3 year old Invincible is circa £48k and Active £36k retail. So they keep the spread of price from new.
Still have the previous model, 120 series, 18 years old now and as reliable as when it was new.
Keep being pestered to sell it, mostly because its in good nick because it sees rustproofing top up every year and i service it properly, servicing is simple which it should be with the vehicle type, ie cambelt change 1 hour DIY with basic tools.
Does it have the image of a Disco 3/4, no, does it impress with its looks, apparently no and if that's important then it won't be of interest anyway.
Its the 4th large Toyota 4x4 we've bought (all but one used) since the mid 90's, not one breakdown, the only failure from any one of them was the alternator stopped charging on the present one which cost me just over £100 for a recon unit and a couple of hours to fit.
150 series is barely changed underneath the body from the 120 series, it wasn't broke so they didn't fix it, see no reason to upgrade to the 150 Prado as the present one shows every sign of going on for another 18 years which is more than can be said for me.
Keep being pestered to sell it, mostly because its in good nick because it sees rustproofing top up every year and i service it properly, servicing is simple which it should be with the vehicle type, ie cambelt change 1 hour DIY with basic tools.
Does it have the image of a Disco 3/4, no, does it impress with its looks, apparently no and if that's important then it won't be of interest anyway.
Its the 4th large Toyota 4x4 we've bought (all but one used) since the mid 90's, not one breakdown, the only failure from any one of them was the alternator stopped charging on the present one which cost me just over £100 for a recon unit and a couple of hours to fit.
150 series is barely changed underneath the body from the 120 series, it wasn't broke so they didn't fix it, see no reason to upgrade to the 150 Prado as the present one shows every sign of going on for another 18 years which is more than can be said for me.
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