RE: Ford F-150 Raptor: Driven

RE: Ford F-150 Raptor: Driven

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n4aat

458 posts

212 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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PhantomPH said:
For the first time, I feel like I have to post an agreement with those who are commenting negatively about the writing in this article. fk me, it's a slog!

Also "(not nearly far enough for Ford to countenance the idea of selling it in the UK)" - erm, doesn't 'countenance' mean something about facial expression??


hastag baffled
Also means approve. But why not just say approve. A bit “try hard”. The author just needs to relax a little. Must be difficult after the recent onslaught of criticism.

sumpoil

431 posts

164 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Leaving aside the LHD/RHD thing, I'm still unclear on the 'good reason' it isn't for sale in the UK? Size? .... OK, it's a tiddly bit big compared to a Mercedes GLS/Q7 but I believe the vehicle illustrated below is driven on UK roads with no problem and it's considerably larger in every single way .....


Charybdis

73 posts

284 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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I assert that the Raptor is the only off-road sportscar you can actually buy. What a Civic Type R or a 911 GT3 is for track in their respective class, is the Raptor for going fast off-road.

We all should applaud Ford for making this car.
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Hatson

2,034 posts

122 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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n4aat said:
PhantomPH said:
For the first time, I feel like I have to post an agreement with those who are commenting negatively about the writing in this article. fk me, it's a slog!

Also "(not nearly far enough for Ford to countenance the idea of selling it in the UK)" - erm, doesn't 'countenance' mean something about facial expression??


hastag baffled
Also means approve. But why not just say approve. A bit “try hard”. The author just needs to relax a little. Must be difficult after the recent onslaught of criticism.
He should be dismissed, sacked, given the elbow. biglaugh

David87

6,656 posts

212 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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sumpoil said:
Leaving aside the LHD/RHD thing, I'm still unclear on the 'good reason' it isn't for sale in the UK? Size? .... OK, it's a tiddly bit big compared to a Mercedes GLS/Q7 but I believe the vehicle illustrated below is driven on UK roads with no problem and it's considerably larger in every single way .....

Indeed. What kind of dimensions is it? I don't see any delivery drivers arriving to me in a state of panic because they can't cope with the size of their LWB Sprinter on the local roads. Admittedly, they don't have 450bhp, but most don't hang about. hehe

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Ford pickups should have a V8.
My F350 has a 7.3 Powerstroke tweaked to 430bhp and somewhere around 800ft/lb torque. amazing thing. Also it makes this wee truck look a bit small at 23' long!!

Turbobanana

6,269 posts

201 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Boyakasha said:
Turbobanana said:
Disagree. Nick's come in for a lot of criticism on here lately, some of it justified, but this reads well - if a little "Troy Queef" smile

On another note, the gear selection indicator on the LCD display:

- P=Park: yup, get that
- R=Reverse: obvious
- N=Neutral: check
- D=Drive: the fun bit smile
- M=??? Monster? Motherf**ker?

I think we should be told.
M = Manual, it’s got paddles.
Oh, thanks. Boring, I prefer one of mine.

woodyTVR

622 posts

246 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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PBDirector said:
I had to work really hard to read that article; many of the sentences just didn't seem to flow for me.

Sorry: limitless of the prose declined to simply flow for me it did.
Glad it wasn't just me.

Black S2K

1,473 posts

249 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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PhantomPH said:
For the first time, I feel like I have to post an agreement with those who are commenting negatively about the writing in this article. fk me, it's a slog!

Also "(not nearly far enough for Ford to countenance the idea of selling it in the UK)" - erm, doesn't 'countenance' mean something about facial expression??


hastag baffled
It can also mean 'to face' as well as 'face'.

I've found parsing a few articles trying recently, too.

That's because they are seemingly becoming more Queefier than Setrightian - whose prose caused me no difficulty.

Paddy78

208 posts

146 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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David87 said:
Indeed. What kind of dimensions is it? I don't see any delivery drivers arriving to me in a state of panic because they can't cope with the size of their LWB Sprinter on the local roads. Admittedly, they don't have 450bhp, but most don't hang about. hehe
Agreed. It is considerably shorter and narrower than an ambulance or Tesco food van and these also seem to manage to get down narrow streets and country lanes. I'd feel more comfortable driving one of these around town than an Aventador or similarly wide and low super / hyper car.

Dimensions W = 2.19 , L = 5.86, H = 1.99

a DSA (Dual Staffed Ambulance) is W = 3, L = 6.5, H = 2.5


Seems fairly practical in comparison. Love it.

Edited by Paddy78 on Friday 9th February 10:29

oldtimer2

728 posts

133 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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There is one mechanical connecting point between the Raptor and the UK and that is its aluminium body architecture. This was developed by Jaguar and is used across all the larger vehicles in the JLR range. When Ford sold Jaguar and Land Rover to Tata they took this technology with them, and a few key body engineers, back to the USA and adopted it for the new F-150. This was regarded in many quarters in the USA as an extremely bold, even foolhardy, decision. It has turned out to be a winner as the F-150 retained its position as the top selling vehicle in the USA. Like the Raptor it is a vehicle for wide roads and open spaces.

MCBrowncoat

880 posts

146 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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OK this is possibly dumb question of the day: What is two speed all wheel drive?

Esceptico

7,468 posts

109 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Paddy78 said:
Agreed. It is considerably shorter and narrower than an ambulance or Tesco food van and these also seem to manage to get down narrow streets and country lanes. I'd feel more comfortable driving one of these around town than an Aventador or similarly wide and low super / hyper car.

Love it.
Except you don't need to park your ambulance at Sainsbury's or multi-storey car parks (unless you are happy being a selfish prick who takes up four spaces).

In the US the F-150 might make sense. Having driven there a bit the state of some of the roads is so st that something the size of a mini could disappear completely in some of the pot-holes. Plus as everyone else are effectively driving trucks, I would be worried about how visible I was and how I would fare in a crash if driving a normal car. Parking spaces and roads are also super-sized. And petrol is cheap.

Still, even in the US I doubt the F-150 really makes sense for most Americans. The cabin is actually small, given who vast the vehicle is, and I wonder how many times they use that massive flat-bed? Really just exist to play to the fantasy of American's inner cowboy. Although Americans could probably point out that most SUVs/Off roaders in the UK scale nothing more challenging than a kerb and most "sportscars" are bought by accountants whose exploitation of their performance limits goes no further than speeding on straight motorways and A roads.


Digger

14,671 posts

191 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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PBDirector said:
I had to work really hard to read that article; many of the sentences just didn't seem to flow for me.

Sorry: limitless of the prose declined to simply flow for me it did.
I’m glad someone else thought like me! I was half way through and asked myself, why is this as hard to digest as it is?!

Harry Flashman

19,352 posts

242 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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I see loads of these (previous gen) in places like Colorade oand California, especially in the mountains in winter, hucking snowmobiles and skis around, never clean, frequently dented and generally looking like a very fast commercial vehicle.

If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.

Paddy78

208 posts

146 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Esceptico said:
Except you don't need to park your ambulance at Sainsbury's or multi-storey car parks (unless you are happy being a selfish prick who takes up four spaces).
Child seat and in the parent and child spaces... job done! biggrin

I concede to your point, but it's unlikely you'd park your Aventador in either of those places, but I accept that the Raptor is more equipped to be used for shopping trips and the like. smile

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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MCBrowncoat said:
OK this is possibly dumb question of the day: What is two speed all wheel drive?
I assume a seperate transfer box that can be set in a low or high speed setting (two different final drive ratios, well final for the engine propshaft anyway).

That 10 speed box seems a bit silly, it's not a mountainbike...

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Black S2K said:
PhantomPH said:
For the first time, I feel like I have to post an agreement with those who are commenting negatively about the writing in this article. fk me, it's a slog!

Also "(not nearly far enough for Ford to countenance the idea of selling it in the UK)" - erm, doesn't 'countenance' mean something about facial expression??


hastag baffled
It can also mean 'to face' as well as 'face'.

I've found parsing a few articles trying recently, too.

That's because they are seemingly becoming more Queefier than Setrightian - whose prose caused me no difficulty.
It's one of those words that seems to have more than one seemingly unrelated meaning! Ha ha.

dictionary said:
1 a person's face or facial expression: his impenetrable eyes and inscrutable countenance give little away.
2 [mass noun] support or approval: she was giving her specific countenance to the occasion.
Guessing he was going for the second. Don't I feel stupid now! biggrin

RB Will

9,664 posts

240 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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You keep testing cars on one of my favourite local roads. I want an invite next time tongue out

graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Same Truck being lent to presenters on Snowquake program on ITV4 Tuesday night.