RE: Ford F-150 Raptor: Driven
Discussion
Yes, parking at a multi-storey would be tricky ..... but I've seen those big transit-style vans at supermarkets taking up more than one space - nobody seems to have a problem with it. As long as the car park isn't full, which they rarely are, what's the issue? If your vehicle is too big for one space you don't really have much choice - I've had cars that you can buy in this country (not American) that are too big for one space. The fact that the spaces are as small as possible doesn't help either - vehicle sizes have been increasing but minimum parking dimensions have remained the same, to the point where parking almost any car means it is a struggle to open the doors to get out.
Anyway, not really likely to be an issue as we'll never get a RHD version ..... but bloody cool, nonetheless! ..... in fact, the only thing cooler i've seen this week was the Falcon Heavy booster landings! ..... straight out of Thunderbirds! .... bloody epic!
Anyway, not really likely to be an issue as we'll never get a RHD version ..... but bloody cool, nonetheless! ..... in fact, the only thing cooler i've seen this week was the Falcon Heavy booster landings! ..... straight out of Thunderbirds! .... bloody epic!
David87 said:
sumpoil said:
Leaving aside the LHD/RHD thing, I'm still unclear on the 'good reason' it isn't for sale in the UK? Size? .... OK, it's a tiddly bit big compared to a Mercedes GLS/Q7 but I believe the vehicle illustrated below is driven on UK roads with no problem and it's considerably larger in every single way .....
Indeed. What kind of dimensions is it? I don't see any delivery drivers arriving to me in a state of panic because they can't cope with the size of their LWB Sprinter on the local roads. Admittedly, they don't have 450bhp, but most don't hang about. 
Granted, I have an HGV license but as the owner of 3 trucks, one being an F250 which is bigger than the Raptor, I've never had a problem.
If the size of something like this worries you, you need to stick to a hairdressers car like the Fiat 500 or something.
IrishAsal said:
SmartVenom said:
It was terrible! I assumed that PistonHeads were now paying by the word and this journalist needed a big payday. Large chunks of the text were just rubbish.
I wanted to read the article but I just gave up.Would I be right (probably not) in thinking that another barrier to entry to the UK is crash regs?
Obviously it's 2018 and you would hope most modern vehicles are pretty 'up there' when it comes to that stuff, but weren't pick-ups judged by different standards and as such pretty crap compared to other passenger vehicles? I'm honestly just guessing, but perhaps the truck would take too much work or modification in order to meet heights and extrusions and crumple zones required for UK roads?
Obviously it's 2018 and you would hope most modern vehicles are pretty 'up there' when it comes to that stuff, but weren't pick-ups judged by different standards and as such pretty crap compared to other passenger vehicles? I'm honestly just guessing, but perhaps the truck would take too much work or modification in order to meet heights and extrusions and crumple zones required for UK roads?
A chap locally owns one, his progress on Wiltshire roads is roughly equal to that of a bus.
Narrow B road which we have so many of? Slow to a near stop every time a car comes the other way. Passing parked cars? No chance of making it through like most of us.
Our commute is similar, mine is quite enjoyable but his appears to be hell on earth on the occasions our paths cross, and I only have 60hp.
Narrow B road which we have so many of? Slow to a near stop every time a car comes the other way. Passing parked cars? No chance of making it through like most of us.
Our commute is similar, mine is quite enjoyable but his appears to be hell on earth on the occasions our paths cross, and I only have 60hp.
Charybdis said:
I assert that the Raptor is the only off-road sportscar you can actually buy. What a Civic Type R or a 911 GT3 is for track in their respective class, is the Raptor for going fast off-road.
We all should applaud Ford for making this car.
I don’t disagree with the second part, but Mr. Saunders might want to talk to you about a product of his called the Nomad? We all should applaud Ford for making this car.
ReverendCounter said:
IrishAsal said:
SmartVenom said:
It was terrible! I assumed that PistonHeads were now paying by the word and this journalist needed a big payday. Large chunks of the text were just rubbish.
I wanted to read the article but I just gave up.Having said that, PH is a tough audience and we expect a lot for our £0 entry fee - but I am starting to feel a bit sorry for the poor chap!
My dislike for these is entirely situational. If I had to traverse 20 miles of dirt track...
Let me rephrase.
If I had 20 miles of dirt track nearby to traverse, ideally close to my standard on-road commute route, this would be very high up my list. Especially if the dirt track was technically "mine" and thus speed-limit-free. I bet this thing could handle 80-90mph on a fairly straight and wide dirt track, no problems...
Let me rephrase.
If I had 20 miles of dirt track nearby to traverse, ideally close to my standard on-road commute route, this would be very high up my list. Especially if the dirt track was technically "mine" and thus speed-limit-free. I bet this thing could handle 80-90mph on a fairly straight and wide dirt track, no problems...
Harry Flashman said:
I see loads of these (previous gen) in places like Colorade oand California, especially in the mountains in winter, hucking snowmobiles and skis around, never clean, frequently dented and generally looking like a very fast commercial vehicle.
If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
The comment above stands out for taking an adult point of view on the existential matter of the pickup truck. Well informed, in my opinion.If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
The thing is, any car can handle dirt tracks, I routinely use forestry or farm tracks or even cross boggy fields in my poxy diesel Golf or work van. You don't really need 4wd to do that. Nice looking truck though, although pretty much confined to use as a toy over here until fuel prices drop to 50p a litre.
That Ranger looks nice though.
That Ranger looks nice though.
unsprung said:
Harry Flashman said:
I see loads of these (previous gen) in places like Colorade oand California, especially in the mountains in winter, hucking snowmobiles and skis around, never clean, frequently dented and generally looking like a very fast commercial vehicle.
If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
The comment above stands out for taking an adult point of view on the existential matter of the pickup truck. Well informed, in my opinion.If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
b) Assume that all Americans are stupid sister shaggers who buy stupid things because they're stupid
I suppose b) is just more entertaining
warch said:
The thing is, any car can handle dirt tracks, I routinely use forestry or farm tracks or even cross boggy fields in my poxy diesel Golf or work van.
Oh undoubtedly. They can handle it sure. But after 10 years of doing that every day the raptor shouldn't be any the worse for it while I suspect the Golf might be a bit baggy around the joints etc.David87 said:
It seems there's a fair chance we'll see the new Ranger Raptor in the UK, which does look pretty damn cool. That it is powered by a 2.0-litre diesel with 210bhp, however, means that my excitement levels are roughly similar to that of a new Vauxhall Astra release.
The ranger raptor does look very cool. In the US the boggo Ranger has a 2.3l ecoboost which is easily good for 300bhp+ so if the ranger raptor is a hit it might be an option although it looks like there isn't a plan to sell it in the US so we might be stuck with the miserable ROW spec diseasel.tim milne said:
F150 — the world's best-selling 'car'
According to this weeks Autocar, Ford sold more than 896,000 of these last year in the USA and Canada.Add in Ford Explorer and Lincoln Navigator sales, which are essentially based on the F150 and you have
nearly 1.2 million sales. Makes you wonder why they bother with anything else.
warch said:
The thing is, any car can handle dirt tracks, I routinely use forestry or farm tracks or even cross boggy fields in my poxy diesel Golf or work van.
I agree but...https://youtu.be/JYwo_vywCy8?t=26
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