RE: Ford F-150 Raptor: Driven
Discussion
BiggestVern said:
tim milne said:
F150 — the world's best-selling 'car'
According to this weeks Autocar, Ford sold more than 896,000 of these last year in the USA and Canada.Add in Ford Explorer and Lincoln Navigator sales, which are essentially based on the F150 and you have
nearly 1.2 million sales. Makes you wonder why they bother with anything else.
1. You can bet Ford are making money on those kind of volumes, but they're also making a shed load more on the SUVs that are based on it — a few more more interior fixtures and some different bodywork and double the price!
2. The size and power of the US economy. They really don't need to bother with the Rest Of The World, something our Dear Leader doesn't seem to fully grasp
BiggestVern said:
Add in Ford Explorer and Lincoln Navigator sales, which are essentially based on the F150
Ford Explorer is a unique unibody vehicle with four-wheel independent suspension. None of its body-on-frame predecessors was based on the F-series pickup truck.Lincoln Navigator uses four-wheel independent suspension on a distinct chassis that is but a cousin to that used for the F-series pickup truck.
SturdyHSV said:
unsprung said:
Harry Flashman said:
I see loads of these (previous gen) in places like Colorade oand California, especially in the mountains in winter, hucking snowmobiles and skis around, never clean, frequently dented and generally looking like a very fast commercial vehicle.
If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
The comment above stands out for taking an adult point of view on the existential matter of the pickup truck. Well informed, in my opinion.If I lived in such a place, I'd have these over a Range Rover any day of the week. It would be great to have something that can do what it does, and yet you literally can treat like a tool and not care that much about. And occasionally take to a desert somewhere and drive like an utter lunatic.
b) Assume that all Americans are stupid sister shaggers who buy stupid things because they're stupid
I suppose b) is just more entertaining
that option b is a useful palliative to transatlantic comparisons of things like available cars, on-the-road costs, and fuel prices.ghost83 said:
I they brought the raptor to the uk with something like the Range Rover v6 or v8 that can do 35-40mpg I’d had one
Tbh I’d have a ranger but the 3.2v6 diesel only manages around 20-25mpg which is shocking in this day and age
(Dads rrsport manages 46mpg on a run)
Only on the back of the AA recovery truck. Tbh I’d have a ranger but the 3.2v6 diesel only manages around 20-25mpg which is shocking in this day and age
(Dads rrsport manages 46mpg on a run)
ReverendCounter said:
IrishAsal said:
SmartVenom said:
It was terrible! I assumed that PistonHeads were now paying by the word and this journalist needed a big payday. Large chunks of the text were just rubbish.
I wanted to read the article but I just gave up.Entertaining article about a truck that most of us in the UK don't want or need and couldn't buy anyway, delivered with great prose because of that. The car wouldn't suit a dry, factual What Car / AutoExpress-type review measuring leg room etc.
Just goes to remind us how how different we all are, I suppose.
David87 said:
It seems there's a fair chance we'll see the new Ranger Raptor in the UK, which does look pretty damn cool. That it is powered by a 2.0-litre diesel with 210bhp, however, means that my excitement levels are roughly similar to that of a new Vauxhall Astra release.
Imagine Ranger Raptor has the same engine as F-150 Raptor aka new Ford GT's engine or even the same engine from Focus RS, and has the option of a 7-seater SUV body (Ford Everest) as Australia and most of Asia countries get. Edited by loveice on Friday 9th February 15:43
Are all PH articles written like this nowadays? The last two I have read have been impossible to digest... not what I have come to expect from 10 years of reading them on here. It's as if the author is attempting to invoke the spirit of Derestrictor and failing... badly.
I don't consider myself a wordsmith by a million miles but I have never struggled to read an article about a test drive before. Hmm.
I don't consider myself a wordsmith by a million miles but I have never struggled to read an article about a test drive before. Hmm.
David87 said:
It seems there's a fair chance we'll see the new Ranger Raptor in the UK, which does look pretty damn cool.
That would be great for Ford.A global LHD+RHD Ranger Raptor and a global LHD+RHD Mustang sound like quite the brand ambassadors, almost regardless of sales volume.
Boyakasha said:
Turbobanana said:
Disagree. Nick's come in for a lot of criticism on here lately, some of it justified, but this reads well - if a little "Troy Queef" 
On another note, the gear selection indicator on the LCD display:
- P=Park: yup, get that
- R=Reverse: obvious
- N=Neutral: check
- D=Drive: the fun bit
- M=??? Monster? Motherf**ker?
I think we should be told.
M = Manual, it’s got paddles.On another note, the gear selection indicator on the LCD display:
- P=Park: yup, get that
- R=Reverse: obvious
- N=Neutral: check
- D=Drive: the fun bit
- M=??? Monster? Motherf**ker?
I think we should be told.
sideways sid said:
In contrast, I started reading, chuckled a bit, and popped back to the top specifically to see if it was written by Cackett, and was pleased to see it was.
Entertaining article about a truck that most of us in the UK don't want or need and couldn't buy anyway, delivered with great prose because of that. The car wouldn't suit a dry, factual What Car / AutoExpress-type review measuring leg room etc.
Just goes to remind us how how different we all are, I suppose.
Seems to be a bit of a witchhunt going on, I for one enjoy being challenged when reading copy. Entertaining article about a truck that most of us in the UK don't want or need and couldn't buy anyway, delivered with great prose because of that. The car wouldn't suit a dry, factual What Car / AutoExpress-type review measuring leg room etc.
Just goes to remind us how how different we all are, I suppose.
fblm said:
Charlie Michael said:
Anyone help clarify who Dearborn is please?
The home of Ford in DetroitAdeTuono said:
In what context?
In the context that I didn't understand the sentence the writer wrote when he said - "The F-150 is, therefore it sells. Such devotion gives Dearborn plenty of latitude when it comes to finessing the model range"Now I know its the manufacturing plant - the above makes more sense.
fblm said:
Charlie Michael said:
Anyone help clarify who Dearborn is please?
The home of Ford in DetroitDearborn is a city in the state of Michigan and it's part of the Detroit metropolitan area. One refers to Dearborn just as one might say Stuttgart when the obvious meaning is Porsche.
This is a reference to the brand or the company management at headquarters. It is not typically a reference to "the factory" -- although the F150 is produced at a factory in that same town. It is also produced simultaneously 800 miles away at another factory in Kansas City (in the state of Missouri).
The current model uses aluminium in ways that are pioneering for a large vehicle and for a heavy duty vehicle. As oldtimer2 explained earlier in this thread, this involved considerable cost and risk.
You can see some of this innovation story in a tour of the F150 factory in Dearborn, video here.
Charlie Michael said:
In the context that I didn't understand the sentence the writer wrote when he said - "The F-150 is, therefore it sells. Such devotion gives Dearborn plenty of latitude when it comes to finessing the model range"
Now I know its the manufacturing plant - the above makes more sense.
The writer is trying to bluff his way to being perceived as having some sort of superior knowledge. All of his articles feature this obsession with trying to use a manufacturing location as if it's some sort of hallowed ground, or to give an air of 'I know what this is, but you're not worthy of having it explained'.Now I know its the manufacturing plant - the above makes more sense.
Incidentally, when the article is preceded by the word 'Driven', why is it being written by someone who hasn't?
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