RE: Porsche 911 (991.2) GT3 vs. 911 (997.2) GT3

RE: Porsche 911 (991.2) GT3 vs. 911 (997.2) GT3

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is1

188 posts

148 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Revjunkie said:
I'm really very upset....

Because I will probably never get to own either of these cars. High revving, NA, Manual....... Heaven.
Don't be.
Get a DC2 Integra Type R - a cut price GT3.

chevronb37

6,471 posts

186 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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Nicely written article. I immediately went to the classifieds to look at 997 GT3 prices. Again.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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chevronb37 said:
Nicely written article. I immediately went to the classifieds to look at 997 GT3 prices. Again.
Do it. wink

lemmingjames

7,457 posts

204 months

Tuesday 13th February 2018
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is1 said:
Revjunkie said:
I'm really very upset....

Because I will probably never get to own either of these cars. High revving, NA, Manual....... Heaven.
Don't be.
Get a DC2 Integra Type R - a cut price GT3.
Except the K20 has similar characteristics to the Mezger unit in the older GT3's, so would have to be a DC5

3yardy3

270 posts

114 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Sierra Mike said:
3yardy3 said:
£81,000 for the older one as new... £130,000 for the new one.... is it me or is 50k is a lot of money for an updated version of the same model???
The information given isn't strictly accurate.

The release prices have been:

997.2 GT3 in 2009 £80,884 with VAT at 15%
991.2 GT3 in 2013 £98,134 inc VAT at 20%
991.2 GT3 in 2017 £111,802 inc VAT at 20%.

If the 997.2 GT3 was taxed at 20%, the base price would have been £84,400 so that helps close down the differential. Therefore the increase between each generation is less than £14k. However, the difference in cost price vs base price has increased considerably due to the options list.

In summary, the £81k price given for the old car was the base price with VAT at 15% and the £130k price for the 991.2 GT3 is with VAT at 20% and circa £20k worth of options. I believe Porsche is very responsible when it comes to price increases from one generation to the next. That's especially so when you consider that Porsche has maintained limited price increments from one generation to the next despite the premiums recent GT cars are commanding.

Edited by Sierra Mike on Tuesday 13th February 00:08
Perfect Response, Cheers

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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lemmingjames said:
Except the K20 has similar characteristics to the Mezger unit in the older GT3's, so would have to be a DC5
Not as engaging as a DC2 though.

Digga

40,321 posts

283 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Alpinestars said:
lemmingjames said:
Except the K20 has similar characteristics to the Mezger unit in the older GT3's, so would have to be a DC5
Not as engaging as a DC2 though.
How much coolant can it leak though?

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Digga said:
Alpinestars said:
lemmingjames said:
Except the K20 has similar characteristics to the Mezger unit in the older GT3's, so would have to be a DC5
Not as engaging as a DC2 though.
How much coolant can it leak though?
Never has an issue.

chevronb37

6,471 posts

186 months

Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Digga said:
chevronb37 said:
Nicely written article. I immediately went to the classifieds to look at 997 GT3 prices. Again.
Do it. wink
I’d have to sell my other two toys to fund it. Not sure I’m ready for that level of sacrifice! Will definitely try one at some point this year though.

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Thursday 15th February 2018
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Double gauche said:
Cheib said:
Great piece of journalism and amazing to me that this is the first article I’ve read comparing the manual 991.2 GT3 with another manual GT3. A coup for PistonHeads!

If Porsche really have managed to deliver a car that provides such a wide ranging driving experience that’s quite some achievement.

CGT comparisons? Blimey.
Im sorry but CGT comparisons are ridiculous.
CGT powertrain is utterly unique in so many ways, never to be repeated and for one has nothing like the ‘bandwidth’ this article speaks of wrt the new gt3.
Hi all,

Sorry for the delay in getting back. I made the CGT comparison because both share key powertrain attributes - response, noise, high rpm energy, fantastic manual - that make them a joy to use. I'm not saying one is better than the other but I really do feel they're each absolutely fantastic, and that using them is key to enjoyment of the car. Both engines also deliver their absolute best beyond 8,000rpm, which is something to be celebrated I think!


Matt