V8 INTO A CORTINA FUTURE DVLA / MOT PROBLEMS
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A friend of mine is looking to put a V8 yank engine into a 1975 MK3 Cortina. It has been done many times over the years however he is concerned about DVLA / MOT problems that he may encounter in the not to distant future
Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
markymarkthree said:
A friend of mine is looking to put a V8 yank engine into a 1975 MK3 Cortina. It has been done many times over the years however he is concerned about DVLA / MOT problems that he may encounter in the not to distant future
Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
It's definitely going to need an IVA, just as any built since the 90s have.Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Nothing in the May 2018-onward test manual that'd stop it being tested - but it definitely wouldn't qualify for the MOT exemption, so will need a test.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Wednesday 14th February 09:21
TooMany2cvs said:
It's definitely going to need an IVA, just as any built since the 90s have.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Nothing in the May 2018-onward test manual that'd stop it being tested - but it definitely wouldn't qualify for the MOT exemption, so will need a test.
Agree it won't qualify for an MOT exemption (though should pass one as long as it's roadworthy), but why would it need an IVA? An engine or even engine and gearbox swap shouldn't push you over the points allowance for that.https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Nothing in the May 2018-onward test manual that'd stop it being tested - but it definitely wouldn't qualify for the MOT exemption, so will need a test.
Edited by TooMany2cvs on Wednesday 14th February 09:21
OverSteery said:
Monkeylegend said:
mr_spock said:
Beard alert: Mk3s were sold in South Africa with the Essex V6 in 2.5 and 3.0 versions.
Cortina Savage?TooMany2cvs said:
I don't fancy trying to shoehorn a v8 in without any mods to the monocoque...
Well, it depends. If you cut it, you would need an IVA. If you just reinforce it by adding bracing etc, probably not.I wouldn't fancy a completely standard Cortina with a big V8 shoved in it either, but you've got to answer the question as asked, and qualify statements like that.
Your answer to the question, as both were stated, is wrong. You do not need an IVA for an engine swap alone.
If you want to discuss supporting modifications and their implications, you need to include more detail around that.
Many thanks for the contributions so far.
I am aware of what engines went into the MK3 in foreign lands but like I said in the o/p "the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc". and this is a UK matter.
So far if I am correct "it will need an MOT in the future" which is fine.
As for chassis mods, all I know is that he wont have to chop into the chassis rails but will have to chop into the bulkhead / tunnel area and the slam panel which I am sure is structural.
He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
As for the Savage being a better car than a std one, not really other than the sound.
I am aware of what engines went into the MK3 in foreign lands but like I said in the o/p "the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc". and this is a UK matter.
So far if I am correct "it will need an MOT in the future" which is fine.
As for chassis mods, all I know is that he wont have to chop into the chassis rails but will have to chop into the bulkhead / tunnel area and the slam panel which I am sure is structural.
He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
As for the Savage being a better car than a std one, not really other than the sound.
markymarkthree said:
As for chassis mods, all I know is that he wont have to chop into the chassis rails but will have to chop into the bulkhead / tunnel area and the slam panel which I am sure is structural.
He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
This is what will send him down the path of needing an IVA.He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
Coatesy351 said:
Thankyou.I cant see any mods to the slam panel or anywhere else in that pic but I am sure there will be some to the tunnel.
InitialDave said:
markymarkthree said:
As for chassis mods, all I know is that he wont have to chop into the chassis rails but will have to chop into the bulkhead / tunnel area and the slam panel which I am sure is structural.
He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
This is what will send him down the path of needing an IVA.He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
Which bit will send him to IVA, the chopping into the slam panel or beefing up the brakes and suspension or the combination of both?
markymarkthree said:
Thanks Dave.
Which bit will send him to IVA, the chopping into the slam panel or beefing up the brakes and suspension or the combination of both?
Modifying the bodyshell is the big one, in that it's the only thing that alone definitely raises a red flag, whereas everything else is more of a contributing element:Which bit will send him to IVA, the chopping into the slam panel or beefing up the brakes and suspension or the combination of both?
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...
Edit: I would give them a call and have a discussion with them about his plans, I've found that the stuff online can be quite woolly on specific details, but the people that actually write the type approval stuff were helpful once I managed to get hold of the more technical bods.
Edited by InitialDave on Wednesday 14th February 11:10
TooMany2cvs said:
markymarkthree said:
A friend of mine is looking to put a V8 yank engine into a 1975 MK3 Cortina. It has been done many times over the years however he is concerned about DVLA / MOT problems that he may encounter in the not to distant future
Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
It's definitely going to need an IVA, just as any built since the 90s have.Basically he needs to know.
Could a Dodge V8 powered Cortina pass an MOT in a year or so when project is completed? if it needs one?
Will it be allowed on the road ?
For reference the biggest engine fitted and supplied in the UK by Ford to a MK3 is 2000cc.
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
Nothing in the May 2018-onward test manual that'd stop it being tested - but it definitely wouldn't qualify for the MOT exemption, so will need a test.
markymarkthree said:
InitialDave said:
markymarkthree said:
As for chassis mods, all I know is that he wont have to chop into the chassis rails but will have to chop into the bulkhead / tunnel area and the slam panel which I am sure is structural.
He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
This is what will send him down the path of needing an IVA.He will also be beefing up the brakes and the suspension.
Which bit will send him to IVA, the chopping into the slam panel or beefing up the brakes and suspension or the combination of both?
If the shell absolutely must be cut, then it'll fail the 8-point criteria straight away, as 5 point have to come from an unmodified shell.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-registration/radically-...
Does making minor changes to the say chassis legs really mean its now considered a radically altered vehicle?
When I fitted a Janspeed exhaust to my MG Midget (OK, it was a long time ago), I ended up having to 'ease' a chassis leg for clearance. I wouldn't consider that relevant let alone a radically alteration.
If he spaceframes the front end, I can see it IVA time, but how many MOT tester are going to know the contours of the underside of a cortina?
When I fitted a Janspeed exhaust to my MG Midget (OK, it was a long time ago), I ended up having to 'ease' a chassis leg for clearance. I wouldn't consider that relevant let alone a radically alteration.
If he spaceframes the front end, I can see it IVA time, but how many MOT tester are going to know the contours of the underside of a cortina?
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