RE: 2019 Toyota Supra details leaked
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TameRacingDriver said:
Yipper said:
Lol.
Looks like something from a 10-yearold who's just read an old copy of his dad's Max Power magazine.
Just awful.
All Japanese sporty cars look a bit like this though with only a few exceptions (MX5 being one).Looks like something from a 10-yearold who's just read an old copy of his dad's Max Power magazine.
Just awful.
bad company said:
I like it as well 
bordseye said:
Seems a bit low on power when mundane German saloons happily exceed 350bhp, and the indicated weight is too much. Its likely to have difficulty competing with Alfa and Alpine as a sports car, or even the Boxter S. And where is the soft top version?
You can get a 400bhp Infiniti Coupe for a bit over 30k. Looks great too.Sooo it's supposed to look like a Tokico R/C car version of a 90's RX7 then?
Sorry but I feel we have become too ultra-modern to bring back the likes of the NSX and now the Supra...
Think 300zx to 370Z; to me that is a pretty decent modern day iteration.
These Supras and NSX's need to relax on the high-tech front/edge and just make a newer version of what caught the mindset of car nuts back in the 90s..... i know, keep dreamin'.... Ahhhh the 90s... 89 thru to 1996 produced some of the most amazing legends across the entire vehicle production board between many favorite brands over IMO. I was fortunate enough to have had experienced many of my favorites in that range. My very first at 17 being an 89 Mustang GT 5.0. My best example and my dream car came to me at 24, 89 Lotus Esprit, white with tan interior.
Sorry but I feel we have become too ultra-modern to bring back the likes of the NSX and now the Supra...
Think 300zx to 370Z; to me that is a pretty decent modern day iteration.
These Supras and NSX's need to relax on the high-tech front/edge and just make a newer version of what caught the mindset of car nuts back in the 90s..... i know, keep dreamin'.... Ahhhh the 90s... 89 thru to 1996 produced some of the most amazing legends across the entire vehicle production board between many favorite brands over IMO. I was fortunate enough to have had experienced many of my favorites in that range. My very first at 17 being an 89 Mustang GT 5.0. My best example and my dream car came to me at 24, 89 Lotus Esprit, white with tan interior.
PhantomPH said:
Bladedancer said:
Too Drunk to Funk said:
1500kg if the article is to be believed.
3.8 0-60 then? Yeah right...PhantomPH said:
Pretty convinced that's a typo that's being repeated around the various t'interweb places. I would imagine 4.8 is more what it should have been.
This.The same engine (B58) in a similar 335HP tuning in BMW's just shy of 1500 KG M240i goes from 0-60 in 4.8 sec (official, 4.6 is achievable without mods).
Assuming of course the Supra is using the new B58.
kambites said:
Hmm that would imply, I suppose, that VW are enormously conservative with the standard 0-60 figures (or are over-stating the standard power figure).
They aren't. This is internet so take everything with grain of salt. Golf R supercarkiller things is ridiculous. Yes, it has good grip and fast box from standstill, but in reality it isn't that powerful when you are on the move... The thing is, people can write everything what they want here. I just read that golf r did get spanked by old BPU Supra (less than 400hp) in a road blast.Edited by kambites on Monday 19th February 11:08
0-60mph time is pointless nowdays.
LasseV said:
kambites said:
Hmm that would imply, I suppose, that VW are enormously conservative with the standard 0-60 figures (or are over-stating the standard power figure).
They aren't. This is internet so take everything with grain of salt. Golf R supercarkiller things is ridiculous. Yes, it has good grip and fast box from standstill, but in reality it isn't that powerful when you are on the move... The thing is, people can write everything what they want here. I just read that golf r did get spanked by old BPU Supra (less than 400hp) in a road blast.Edited by kambites on Monday 19th February 11:08
0-60mph time is pointless nowdays.
The Golf R is no supercar killer. It does 0-60mph in sub 4 seconds though which is why I stated that it's entirely possible that this Supra COULD do the same.
Tuvra said:
Tell's people to take everything with a grain of salt, then states that he read that a Golf R got spanked by an old Supra:-
The Golf R is no supercar killer. It does 0-60mph in sub 4 seconds though which is why I stated that it's entirely possible that this Supra COULD do the same.
I rest my case The Golf R is no supercar killer. It does 0-60mph in sub 4 seconds though which is why I stated that it's entirely possible that this Supra COULD do the same.
Do you believe it?I think that this leaked 0-60mph time is wrong, because of lack of traction. Best mk4 time what i have seen is 4.6 sec. New tires, autobox and launch control does give you better time for surely but still... Anyway, 0-60mph is quite useless stat nowdays.
This car doesn't seem to move the game on much from the 370Z. Similar power and weight so I'm guessing the improved 0 - 60 time is largely down to shorter gearing. Not too impressive seeing as the Toyota (or Gazoo Racing) has had an extra 9 years to incorporate new technology and is likely to cost an extra 20K. Not much of a looker either (the artist's sketches make it look particularly ugly).
Too Drunk to Funk said:
TwinExit said:
The thing is that this car is in many ways 'German' and looks to me it is built down to a price so that the masses can get such car on finance and for Toyota to make money from it.
Toyota aren't interested in competing with the premium sports car / GT market like they did in the 80's and 90's, they want to get into that Audi TT/370Z/2 series segment - that £299 per month sweet spot.
What? What German cars would you say are built down to a price so the plebs can afford them?Toyota aren't interested in competing with the premium sports car / GT market like they did in the 80's and 90's, they want to get into that Audi TT/370Z/2 series segment - that £299 per month sweet spot.
BMW?
Mercedes?
Audi?
Porsche?
Toyota are simply doing the same but for their so-called halo model, they just do not want an 'all expense spared' approach like they did in the 90's (through a global recession at that). They pushed out the JZA80 and JZZ30 platforms competing against the likes of the 911/928, Corvette and entry level Ferrari of the times and made no money from it. Business needs mandate a lower cost/lower risk program and Toyota looks to peg this new car within the small market of junior coupes such as the Audi TT and 370Z.
Lexus has taken care of the luxo GT efforts with the LC.
Too Drunk to Funk said:
There's a lot of crap spouted on this forum.
The new Supra looks hideous too.
It seems to me you're the expert at such 'crap spouting' especially one has clearly failed to add value into the discussion himself!The new Supra looks hideous too.
Edited by TwinExit on Tuesday 20th February 13:04
Edited by TwinExit on Tuesday 20th February 13:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64ZpUoEpv_o
That is a vide from Supra's winter test. Car looks spot on IMO. Nice overall balance and zagato roof is just awesome detail. Sounds good too at least for being a new car, not overly fartly but you can hear proper inline six sound.
That is a vide from Supra's winter test. Car looks spot on IMO. Nice overall balance and zagato roof is just awesome detail. Sounds good too at least for being a new car, not overly fartly but you can hear proper inline six sound.
kambites said:
Unsurprisingly, what it looks most like in terms of proportions is a Z4 coupe.
Yes, but... it wouldn't surprise me if Toyota weren't simply using the Z4 coupe to 'bolt on' new Supra design elements for the purposes testing, This wouldn't necessarily require the 'full' Supra body work or final design.
A simple 'shell' to do the testing (albeit with a few features of the concept design), knowing that there will inevitably be leaked photos,...in doing so keeping the intended final version undercover until they wish to 'unleash' it to the public.
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