Worst design mis-steps

[ajprice]

WheelyTyred said:

I don't have any pictures to hand but there was a Ford Focus facelift that stopped the fuel filler cap from lining up with the bottom of the rear light cluster. I think it was the latest generation.

Yep

[Nik da Greek]

Design icon..



facelifted design icon...



errrr.... still a design icon



ummm... am I doing this right? Still a design icon



Arggghhh! It's all gone horribly wrong! Bloated bonnet, prolapsed windscreen and vulgar modern McPherson struts. Whatever next, they'll be watercooling the damned things next




And they had the nerve to call it a Super Beetle




Oh, for fks sake

[Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah]

sr.guiri said:

harry henderson said:

As much as I love TVR I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with this one. From this:

To this:

You're not alone.....but shouldn't it be:



and.....

sr.guiri's television

Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Tuesday 20th February 11:41

Edited by Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah on Tuesday 20th February 11:41

[SimonTheSailor]

l354uge said:

Just seen the new polo, and boy, what an overdesigned, flabby mess vw have created.



Compared to the old one, it's a huge step back:



Clean and smart.

This got me thinking, which car makers made the worst looking face lift or new model?

Controversial point to start: the mk2 multipla was a horribly dull car compared to the mk1... A real cop out.

Edited by l354uge on Friday 16th February 22:54

On my phone these look the same ?

[Too Drunk to Funk]

Fermit The Krog and Sexy Sarah said:

sr.guiri said:

harry henderson said:

As much as I love TVR I'm pretty sure I'm not alone with this one. From this:

To this:

You're not alone.....but shouldn't it be:



and.....

sr.guiri's television

I don't get the hate for the New TVR. The Sagaris looked great, there are plenty of older ones that look a bit st in comparison.

[captain_cynic]

24lemons said:

People have been cleverly pointing out that the new mini is bigger than the original for 17 years now! That’s half my lifetime!

The problem you've missed is that the Mini is as bigger than other hatchbacks. The original Mini was developed by BMC to be simple, have 80% of the floor space dedicated to the cabin and to be small for UK roads... hence they called it a Mini, not a F**king Great Big Ugly Munter (the name badge would have been wider than the car).

The Mini was designed to be small and practical, modern Maxi's are anything but.

[sr.guiri]

Too Drunk to Funk said:

I don't get the hate for the New TVR. The Sagaris looked great, there are plenty of older ones that look a bit st in comparison.

I don't get the hate for the new TVR either - owned 3 myself and because it's a TVR, I like it (although I expect it won't be as entertaining nor as rapid as they were - the Griff 500 and Cerbera were insane) . But I was commenting on how the guy compared a Sagaris with a new Griff, not a Griff with a new Griff.

[captain_cynic]

I know this will be unpopular on PH but...

Honda, replacing the EK/EJ civic:




With this monstrosity


I liked the old EJ saloon shape, it was looked conservative and unassuming, I.E. a perfect Japanese salarymans car. It would fly under the radar of just about everyone (cops included).

[Tuvra]

The CLS is the most obvious one for me.

CLS or when Porsche changed from the 993:-

to the 996:-

Luckily (to my eyes at least) every 911 since the 996 has got better looking

[M1C]

I think the Civic FN looked great and still does. Inside and out.

Had one for a while (1.8 EX) and i didn't fully get on with it (lacklustre engine, mediocre refinement or harsh ride, stupidly thin paint)...but it was a great looking inside and out car, with HUGE space inside and in boot considering the size of it. Very cleverly designed car IMO.

The model that follwed it just didn't look right. It looked like they tried to keep the previous one but bloated it out, not nice at all.

[Plug Life]

Nik da Greek said:

Design icon...

...stolen from Tatra by Prof. Porsche for Adolfie...

[mp3manager]

captain_cynic said:

I know this will be unpopular on PH but...

Honda, replacing the EK/EJ civic:


With this monstrosity

But they didn't though. You jumped the EM & FD models of Civic, so a little unfair on your part.

[chrispmartha]

LuS1fer said:

DoubleD said:

24lemons said:

ash73 said:

LuS1fer said:

And let's not forget

Mini is a brand not an adjective, get over it.

People have been cleverly pointing out that the new mini is bigger than the original for 17 years now! That’s half my lifetime!

Ha ha ha. Its like a shock that new cars are bigger than old ones. Next they will be telling us that they also weigh more.

Missing the point. It never needed to be that big. The true spiritual successors to the original Mini are the Citroen C1/108/Aygo, VW Up etc all smaller

eg MINI 3 door - Length 3,821mm Width 1,727mm Height 1,414mm

Peugeot 108 5 door 3,475 x 1,615 x 1,460 mm (100kg lighter in base spec)
VW Up 3,600 x 1,641-1,645 x 1,478-1,504 mm (200kg lighter)

I know if only they had designed it different and smaller it would have been a winner...

What it needed to do was be different, but with nods to the original design, be iconic and appealing to the consumer, which obviously it was I would say the new mini is the exact opposite of a design mis-step

[l354uge]

chrispmartha said:

I know if only they had designed it different and smaller it would have been a winner...

What it needed to do was be different, but with nods to the original design, be iconic and appealing to the consumer, which obviously it was I would say the new mini is the exact opposite of a design mis-step

The first new mini certainly wasn't a mis-step. Every new model and variant since has been massive mis-steps.

[ajprice]

mp3manager said:

captain_cynic said:

I know this will be unpopular on PH but...

Honda, replacing the EK/EJ civic:


With this monstrosity

But they didn't though. You jumped the EM & FD models of Civic, so a little unfair on your part.

And if you want a Honda Civic that's a monstrosity, look at the current one.

[Yiliterate]

dazwalsh said:

Muddle238 said:

They weren't facelifts though, they were all-new cars. Not Peugeot's finest years.

The 306-307 admittedly was bad, the interiors to be fair were quite nice on the 307, but the 406 to the 407 was a disgusting mess.

Yep, especially the coupe...

[captain_cynic]

ajprice said:

And if you want a Honda Civic that's a monstrosity, look at the current one.

It was a steady decent into ugliness, but the Fx models were the turning point.

[podwin]

Plug Life said:

DoYouEvenBoost said:

More a design choice but the Audi indicators that are the running orange light along the LED strip, like some low rent travelling shows. It's so fking tacky, does it come with a plastic light up singing Santa to stick in the window of the car round Christmas?

Audi are the definition of money can't buy class

It's tacky but more conspicuous than simple blinking which I guess is good for an indicator.

Plus the drivers think they are the bees-knees so use their tacky indicators at every opportunity, which is a nice change!

[DoubleD]

captain_cynic said:

24lemons said:

People have been cleverly pointing out that the new mini is bigger than the original for 17 years now! That’s half my lifetime!

The problem you've missed is that the Mini is as bigger than other hatchbacks. The original Mini was developed by BMC to be simple, have 80% of the floor space dedicated to the cabin and to be small for UK roads... hence they called it a Mini, not a F**king Great Big Ugly Munter (the name badge would have been wider than the car).

The Mini was designed to be small and practical, modern Maxi's are anything but.

If you dont like the modern mini then buy something else. Simples

[Nik da Greek]

Plug Life said:

...stolen from Tatra by Prof. Porsche for Adolfie...

Yep. Also stolen from several other designers who contributed to the evolution at NSU amongst others as well as the Tatra.

Hitler made him do it


Anyway, your point being....? I never said "solus Porsche design classic"