Car with both Transverse & Longitudinal engine options?

[Shakermaker]

generationx said:

The Renault 21 too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_21

You could see the difference on the rear section of the front wing.

My mum had two of these over the years both in 7-seat Savannah form, first a 2 litre then a 1.7 afterwards. Too young to ever realise the engines were different ways around in them.

[BuzzBravado]

Nanook said:

Well, the front wheel drives ones weren't 4 wheel drive

The Impreza, the Legacy, and the SVX could all be had with FWD.

In the UK? Never heard of a FWD Impreza. Even the 1.5's were 4WD, same for the legacy.

[2xChevrons]

john2443 said:

daniel1920 said:

kambites said:

No, they're all longitudinal.

Really? Longitudinal FWD must be fairly rare, but that's a bit off topic

Audis, Citroen Traction & 2CV, Various Renaults...

And, for the purposes of the OP's question - the Citroen LN/LNA and the Visa were both offered in longitudinal and transverse FWD layouts at the same time, depending on which engine you went for. It's slightly skirting the question because the longitudinal options was the 602cc flat-twin 2CV engine (in the LN/LNA) or a special 652cc version in the Visa, so it's hardly a conventional design but it is undisputibly longitudinal. The larger engines were Peugeot transverse four-pots. So it was also a car with air or water cooling depending on the spec.

As for longitudinal FWD, as well as Citroens and Triumphs (further back in time) and Audi and Subaru more recently, there is also the Alfa Romeo flat-four drivetrain which was longitudinal FWD, first used in the Alfasud and kept going until the Alfa 146 in the late 1990s. In fact I'm pretty sure the 145/146 was available from the start with either longitudinal boxer petrol engines or a transverse diesel.

[TooMany2cvs]

2xChevrons said:

And, for the purposes of the OP's question - the Citroen LN/LNA and the Visa were both offered in longitudinal and transverse FWD layouts at the same time, depending on which engine you went for.

<slaps forehead>
Of course!

[AppleJuice]

Clive-sz8cz said:

How about the Bond three wheeler with the pivoted single cylinder engine/front wheel steering arrangement. The engine was transverse or longitudinal (and all points inbetween) depending on whether you were going in a straight line or going round a corner.....

[Triumph Man]

Strictly speaking not quite what the OP was driving at, but throughout its generations the VW Passat has flip-flopped between longitudinal and transverse engines, with both front and four wheel drive.

[AppleJuice]

Triumph Man said:

Strictly speaking not quite what the OP was driving at, but throughout its generations the VW Passat has flip-flopped between longitudinal and transverse engines, with both front and four wheel drive.

By the same token, the 21st-Century Skoda Superb.

The 20-Century Superb was AFAIK longitudinal and used I6/V8 engines with RWD/AWD.

[InitialDave]

Triumph Man said:

Strictly speaking not quite what the OP was driving at, but throughout its generations the VW Passat has flip-flopped between longitudinal and transverse engines, with both front and four wheel drive.

There's also an oddity there with their platform sharing with the Audi A4. I think both B5 generations are very similar under the skin, but although the following generations are called B6 for both cars, they're totally different and the Passat is more based on an enlarged Golf?

[Alex]

The Nissan Cherry had a transverse engine except for the Cherry Europe, which had the longitudinal flat four from the Alfasud.

[AppleJuice]

InitialDave - correct

[Warmfuzzies]

kambites said:

Krikkit said:

It is, I think only Audi has done it in the last 30 years.

Audi and other bits of VAG using Audi's platforms, yeah.

My 1994 Audi 80TDI (B4 model) was.

[33q]

russell_ram said:

gazza285 said:

TooMany2cvs said:

gazza285 said:

Triumph 1500 was available with both.

No, they were all longitudinal, both FWD and RWD.

You're not wrong...

Would it be pedantic to suggest that the Triumph 1300, 1500 and Toledo were FWD longitudinal whilst it was the (different) facelifted Triumph Dolomite that was RWD?

No...Toledo was only ever RWD as was the Dolomite as you correctly say

[Martin350]

Rubbing my not very extensive Ferrari beard for a moment, the Mondial t had a longitudinal engine, all the earlier ones had transverse.

I know, fascinating!

[Turbotechnic]

Mk3 and mk4 Escort with the Gartrac conversion.

[Pericoloso]

RedSwede said:

Saab 900, for the Longitudinal, FWD thing.

Every SAAB ,until the 9000 appeared in 1985.

NG900 went transverse in 1993.

[Pericoloso]

Turbotechnic said:

Mk3 and mk4 Escort with the Gartrac conversion.

Not exactly a "production " car is it....

[InitialDave]

The Americans made some stuff with a longitudinal, FWD V8 (Oldsmobile Toronado, one of the Cadillacs, possibly others?).

What I love is that the gearbox is basically a normal RWD 'box with the output replaced by a chain drive down to a front diff.

[Turbotechnic]

Pericoloso said:

Not exactly a "production " car is it....

I know, but cool option to tick though.

[TooMany2cvs]

Pericoloso said:

RedSwede said:

Saab 900, for the Longitudinal, FWD thing.

Every SAAB ,until the 9000 appeared in 1985

Some of the two-smokes were transverse.

[SpeckledJim]

Didn't the Ferrari 308 swap from transverse to longitudinal at one point?