Has anyone ever used a DSG / ZF and not liked it?

[Scottie - NW]

I have just been trying to sort out a hire car for 24 hours to see what I think of each gearbox.

For £85 for 24 hours I can get an M2, will this have the same ZF8 as the M135i?

Am having trouble finding somewhere to hire a Golf GTi with DSG, am trying Liverpool and Manchester as the two closest large cities.

[liner33]

Scottie - NW said:

I have just been trying to sort out a hire car for 24 hours to see what I think of each gearbox.

For £85 for 24 hours I can get an M2, will this have the same ZF8 as the M135i?

Am having trouble finding somewhere to hire a Golf GTi with DSG, am trying Liverpool and Manchester as the two closest large cities.

Have you tried a dealer, I've had no issues getting a demo car for a few days in the past

[CaptainMorgan]

After driving my dads 4 speed slush box recently I can see why people get put off autos, it was almost enough to put me off them! It's incredible how far they've come, I also think half the battle is getting people to actually try them, people can be quick to slate them without even sitting in a car with a DSG/ZF8 box.

Scottie - NW said:

How do they cope with tuning?

Is the DSG in the Golf Gti/R/Cupra good for 400bhp and 400 lb/ft?

Is the M135i ZF8 good for 450bhp and 500 lb/ft?

These seem realistic targets with bolt on mods.

S3/R/Cupra DSG box can deal with 400bhp and whatever torque that provides with a DSG remap. After that there's uprated clutch plates to suit more power.

The ZF8 is a funny one, they 'rate' them at the same torque as the 135/140 delivers but I believe these are pretty conservative, plenty run 400bhp without issue (short term at least!)

[Ares]

CaptainMorgan said:

After driving my dads 4 speed slush box recently I can see why people get put off autos, it was almost enough to put me off them! It's incredible how far they've come, I also think half the battle is getting people to actually try them, people can be quick to slate them without even sitting in a car with a DSG/ZF8 box.

Scottie - NW said:

How do they cope with tuning?

Is the DSG in the Golf Gti/R/Cupra good for 400bhp and 400 lb/ft?

Is the M135i ZF8 good for 450bhp and 500 lb/ft?

These seem realistic targets with bolt on mods.

S3/R/Cupra DSG box can deal with 400bhp and whatever torque that provides with a DSG remap. After that there's uprated clutch plates to suit more power.

The ZF8 is a funny one, they 'rate' them at the same torque as the 135/140 delivers but I believe these are pretty conservative, plenty run 400bhp without issue (short term at least!)

The ZF8 is OEM for cars with north of 500bhp and similar levels of lb ft Torque.

[PorkInsider]

Scottie - NW said:

I have just been trying to sort out a hire car for 24 hours to see what I think of each gearbox.

For £85 for 24 hours I can get an M2, will this have the same ZF8 as the M135i?

Am having trouble finding somewhere to hire a Golf GTi with DSG, am trying Liverpool and Manchester as the two closest large cities.

M2 will have M-DCT (dual clutch, like DSG) not a full auto box (like a ZF8)..