RE: Lancia Beta Monte-Carlo: Spotted

RE: Lancia Beta Monte-Carlo: Spotted

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BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

215 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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This is a car for likeable people you definitely want to have a beer with.

Mr Tidy

22,408 posts

128 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Back in the late 70s I really fancied one of these, but by the time they might have been in budget I'd already had 2 Fiats so knew how much pain they could inflict on the bank account. So I bought Fast Fords instead!

Quite an innovative car at the time though - nobody tried anything similar until the mid-80s when the MR2 came along!

And MR2 prices do make this look a bit pricey. laugh

S2WYA

498 posts

199 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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I always have and still do think these look absolutely awful :{

soxboy

6,272 posts

220 months

Saturday 3rd March 2018
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Well I think it looks lovely, but PLEASE do something about the awful (and illegal) number plates.

myhandle

1,194 posts

175 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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This is to the Lancia Rally (homologation version of the 037) as the original Delta is to the integrale; surely worth the asking price to the right collector.

DELTAHPE

200 posts

239 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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The montecarlo was of course originally developed as the Fiat X1/20 and was passed onto lancia very late in its development, this resulted in the early cars being released to the public insufficiently developed, my choice would therefore be to find a series two which had most of the quirks of the early cars designed out by lancia engineers. Whilst it's a great looking thing in my opinion the Beta coupe is the better car, much more solidly made and a great handling car despite being front wheel drive plus a nice one will be half price as they are still tainted by the overblown rust scandal. These days it's difficult to remember that everything back then rusted, if a Beta had survived this far there's no reason to dismiss it for being a rot box!

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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samoht said:
davidn said:
Mention has been made of the long front over hang but it effectively turned a 2 seater into a 3 seater
Not just a junior Ferrari, but a veritable cut-price McLaren F1 then !


Edited by samoht on Saturday 3rd March 16:38


That bargain F1 label must belong to the Bagheera/Murena surely !

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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myhandle said:
This is to the Lancia Rally (homologation version of the 037) as the original Delta is to the integrale; surely worth the asking price to the right collector.
I remember these years back on the roads

I'd still want a proper Stradale though, like Lagerlout has done with his 131 Rallye.

I remember Fast Lane reviewing one in the 80s as a pricey road car
Bet they're astronomical prices now



https://youtu.be/cwwHULWCmkI

Leins

9,472 posts

149 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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A Stradale 037 is, to my eyes, possibly the most beautiful road car ever made (Alpine A110 is up there too for me)

Lagerlout's 131 is stunning isn't it!! Well worth a look in Readers' Cars if anyone has missed it

98elise

26,644 posts

162 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Richard A said:
Is this the only production model that had windows entirely outside the cabin / habitable space? I'm sure there must have been others but I can't think of any.
A few Ferrari's do (glass over the engine + a rear window divider). There are probably a few mid engine cars with non cabin glass.

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Leins said:
A Stradale 037 is, to my eyes, possibly the most beautiful road car ever made (Alpine A110 is up there too for me)

Lagerlout's 131 is stunning isn't it!! Well worth a look in Readers' Cars if anyone has missed it

Leins

9,472 posts

149 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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^^^ Superb

Any idea what the supercharged Mercedes that they mention is sm?

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Leins said:
^^^ Superb

Any idea what the supercharged Mercedes that they mention is sm?
500 SEC


Back to the Montecarlo, someone used to run one as a daily up until a decade or so ago.

Always parked outside The Lion Hotel in Shrewsbury ( which is on a steep hill )

Used to marvel at their faith in Italian handbrake tech as it wasn't left in gear as well

Edited by s m on Sunday 4th March 11:50

irocfan

40,539 posts

191 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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DELTAHPE said:
These days it's difficult to remember that everything back then rusted, if a Beta had survived this far there's no reason to dismiss it for being a rot box!
IIRC Vauxhall also had a spectacularly bad reputation for rust a few years before (much to their relief!) the Beta showed up. As an aside a Beta Volumex Coupe is another 'I missed the chance' car frown

robsa

2,260 posts

185 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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For me, a clean Alfasud Ti for £8k is a far better proposition:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1982-ALFA-ROMEO-ALFASUD...


BVB

1,104 posts

154 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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The most successful engine in World Rally Championship history under the hood. Albeit not quite in the 500 bhp 037, S4 and Delta guise.

KillianB4

150 posts

112 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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These are great, definitely being viewed as a missed opportunity by people now the price is gone to where it is.

Quintessentially Italian, you can forgive it for its flaws for how it looks and how it behaves when it works.

gruffgriff

1,591 posts

244 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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If we're quite correctly lusting over the 037 silhouette rally legend, let's not forget it's magnificent Group 5 cousin. Sorry, haven't reinstated image hosting, well worth a tap in to google though.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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soxboy said:
Well I think it looks lovely, but PLEASE do something about the awful (and illegal) number plates.
You probably hate this then...


huckster6

245 posts

218 months

Sunday 4th March 2018
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Charismatic car. I believe Italy is now the only country where you can buy a Lancia. Heartbreaking mismanagement, I suppose.