RE: Jaguar 'Greatest Hits' XJ: Geneva 2018

RE: Jaguar 'Greatest Hits' XJ: Geneva 2018

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Sebastian Tombs

2,044 posts

192 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Digga said:
The man himself, with Magnus Walker:



In that pic, the red looks a bit less in-yer-face and subtler, almost a mulberry sort of colour.
All that money and they can't afford a barber!

The car itself doesn't suit big rims at all. It's funny how older cars like this only seem to look good on 15s or 16s at most.
The bumpers neaten up the S3 items at the top but look ungainly and heavy at the bottom. Why did they have to be integrated instead of sitting over the body? They look as jarring as those a big bumper Mk2 golf, or a facelift alumnimum X350.

The interior is OK, but why the old 3 speed?

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Plug Life said:
Digga said:
One of the most iconic and beautiful cars of the 80's. Okay, the basic design was 70's, but that iteration is the pinnacle.
'70s? The Mark X started in 1961 and the base design was already there.

I like it a lot smile Although agree with others regarding wheels and interior

I had a 420G for a while mid seventies, then a series 3 XJ12 for a while about 20 years ago, and have to confess the series 3 has always been my favourite (shape) Jaguar saloon... Resto mod for me would have to be an XJC, preferably with a supercharged XJR lump under the bonnet cloud9

soad

32,896 posts

176 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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He will enjoy it, and that's all that matters.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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ChilliWhizz said:
Resto mod for me would have to be an XJC, preferably with a supercharged XJR lump under the bonnet cloud9
Late 6.0 v12 with upgraded breathing, exhaust, ECU and other bits on mine putting out 380bhp through an upgraded 4 speed auto. Looking forward to it being back on the road this year. ECU will be switchable between economy, normal and sports mode.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Sebastian Tombs said:
The interior is OK, but why the old 3 speed?
The easiest update is to the later 4 speed box achieveable through the use of an adaptor plate and a GM700R4 gearbox from the likes of a Camaro. That’s what I’m doing with mine and it settles the cruise at 80 on the 6.0 v12 to about 2100rpm so smooth and should be over 20mpg

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I love it.

Big maiden fan too

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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craigjm said:
rtz62 said:
I really, really like the body shape, it was a sublime design on jaguars part.
The series 3 XJ was not an in house Jaguar design. Pininfarina was given the job of doing a cheap update to the series 2 so that it would remain current looking because of the delays to the XJ40 programme which should have actually replaced the series 2.
Yes, Jaguar used Pininfarina to update the Series 2 when the XJ40 was so delayed they needed a stopgap model - the Series 3. The XJ40 should have replaced the Series 2 directly, but the whole of BL was in chaos.

People seem to love the Series 3 update, but I far prefer the Series 2 for its much more attractive roofline. The series 2 is positively sleek, but to my eyes the roof treatment of the Series 3 is too tall and a little frumpy in comparison, so I would have used a Series 2 as my starting point. The chrome and rubber bumpers (very like those developed for the XJ40) also rob the series 3 of some of its gracefulness. They have the same effect on the XJ40 - these look very delicate without the bumpers. The rubber bumpers also rob both the Series 3 and XJ40 of the visual impact of the tapering rear wings, so beautiful on the Series 2. These bumpers are an improvement on that.

Personally, I am not keen on these retro-mod Jags, but it is well done and they are widely admired. I'm sure it is very dramatic in the flesh.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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dbdb said:
People seem to love the Series 3 update, but I far prefer the Series 2 for its much more attractive roofline.
I agree much prefer my coupe although it has series 3 rear lights, boot lid and plinth which I think was a good update. Retains chrome bumpers though albeit in my case welded to be single units to remove the over riders. My series 2 coupe also has a series 3 dashboard which I think is nicer without the pencil shelf.

dbdb said:
Personally, I am not keen on these retro-mod Jags, but it is well done and they are widely admired. I'm sure it is very dramatic in the flesh.
They can be a bit of an aquired taste. The retro power one is too American for my liking (I’m style and engine) and this one just doesn’t look different enough to justify the money spent on it. Mine should be ready late summer and my vision was to create a vision of what an XJR XJ coupe might have been like with as much modern tech as possible done well.

richw_82

992 posts

186 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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craigjm said:
The latest engine that will fit in the bodyshell is the mid 90s supercharged 6. Anything past that doesnt fit because it is too tall and the transmissions are much bigger being 6 or 8 speed and they just wouldnt fit in the tunnel even with extensive modifications.
Thats not quite right... the supercharged V8 fits.


ettore

4,132 posts

252 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I had a good look at this yesterday and, despite initial misgivings, thought it looked rather fabulous in the flesh. Colour, interior and even the wheels really did look dramatic but it all worked in a lovely flamboyant way.

What it did show, set against modern metal, was how beautifully proportioned and relatively small the XJ is.

Met the man himself and he seemed (rightfully) delighted with his car too.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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richw_82 said:
craigjm said:
The latest engine that will fit in the bodyshell is the mid 90s supercharged 6. Anything past that doesnt fit because it is too tall and the transmissions are much bigger being 6 or 8 speed and they just wouldnt fit in the tunnel even with extensive modifications.
Thats not quite right... the supercharged V8 fits.

Apologies mistype that’s what I meant which is why I said anything later with the 6 or 8 speed box doesn’t fit.

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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It is a great engine that supercharged V8, but the romantic in me would far prefer the 'twelve.

dbdb

4,326 posts

173 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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That's one fabulous paint job! Real quality.

craigjm

17,955 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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dbdb said:
It is a great engine that supercharged V8, but the romantic in me would far prefer the 'twelve.
Me too that’s why I went for the late 6.0

Rich_W

12,548 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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dbdb said:





That's one fabulous paint job! Real quality.
Not sure if serious.

Exhibition halls are a st bag to try and photo in. Anyone whose been to Autosport show will testify! laugh

kainedog

361 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Don’t like the red leather but the rest of the car is porn. Lots of Pistonheads hate for the wore wheels as usual , I love them

F1GTRUeno

6,354 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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That is fking wonderful

disco666

233 posts

146 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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To truly celebrate the 50th anniversary, what we really want is a modern XJ coupe. If Merc can do it with the S Class, why not?

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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disco666 said:
To truly celebrate the 50th anniversary, what we really want is a modern XJ coupe. If Merc can do it with the S Class, why not?
Nice idea but given what they are trotting out at the moment I dread to think what it might look like.

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Wheels don't offend me at all, infact i like them mind you i wouldn't want to clean them.

Red leather seats arw lovely the door cards and dash surrounds also being red perhaps is a tad roo much. Make those a much darker colour keep red leather....spot on.

I always liked Listen with Nicko on the albums, he seems like a good guy tbh.