RE: Mercedes-AMG GT four-door: Geneva 2018

RE: Mercedes-AMG GT four-door: Geneva 2018

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Roy m

198 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Someone at Mercedes / AMG must have a huge ugly stick they've been let loose with.

Onehp

1,617 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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culpz said:
I'm a bit confused with this GT Series. Where exactly does it sit in the range?
Looked it up some more, basically it's the AMG version of the CLS which they rebranded GT. And as a GT, it will cost more. Good for those that want to pay, will be quite a piece of equipment whatever it is called.

Not my cup... If I had to have a Merc, I would be more interested in that new straight six in the E estate with the optional drift mode, that sounds more like reasonable fun...

Fun Bus

17,911 posts

218 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Deep breath...

That is bloody lovely.

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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(Put some Merc badges on to confuse everyone..
"New 8 series makes it's entrance!

culpz

4,884 posts

112 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Onehp said:
culpz said:
I'm a bit confused with this GT Series. Where exactly does it sit in the range?
Looked it up some more, basically it's the AMG version of the CLS which they rebranded GT. And as a GT, it will cost more. Good for those that want to pay, will be quite a piece of equipment whatever it is called.

Not my cup... If I had to have a Merc, I would be more interested in that new straight six in the E estate with the optional drift mode, that sounds more like reasonable fun...
Thanks for the clarification. Makes more sense explained in that way.

I actually quite like the looks of it, but with the introduction and re-introduction of so many different models now, i think these niche examples don't quite sit as well as they should in the range.

Doofus

25,819 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Why can't car makers just fk off? The myriad of niche-within-niche models and the resulting homogeneity is baffling.

"We are giving customers what they want." No you're not, what you're doing is creating a continual, incessant demand for new cars....

Oh... As you were.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Doofus said:
No you're not, what you're doing is creating a continual, incessant demand for new cars....
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God hate these manufacturers for wanting to sell cars.....

Milemuncher

514 posts

115 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Replacement for CLS shooting brake? New CLS front with Audi A7 rear?

2.0 4 cylinder diesel version will be out in due course.

Martin 480 Turbo

602 posts

187 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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Sorry. Stuttgart looks like Detroit in 1972 at the moment.

Lots of talented car guys, who have completely lost the plot.

Someone measure the coke residues in the water over there.

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I read somewhere that it sits alongside the GT in the range because it is AMG’s creation, it doesn’t share the same platform as the CLS or E class. I’m surprised the article didn’t clarify the platform & internals!!

ZX10R NIN

27,604 posts

125 months

Tuesday 6th March 2018
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I have to say the 8 series GC looks better.

Uncool

486 posts

281 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I really like it, but I'm not sure why Merc (AMG) are calling it a 4 door, when it is in fact a 5 door:


KillerHERTZ

942 posts

198 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Doofus said:
Why can't car makers just fk off? The myriad of niche-within-niche models and the resulting homogeneity is baffling.

"We are giving customers what they want." No you're not, what you're doing is creating a continual, incessant demand for new cars....

Oh... As you were.
Considering MB are selling more cars than they have ever done before, they are "giving customers what they want"

E65Ross

35,080 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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KillerHERTZ said:
Doofus said:
Why can't car makers just fk off? The myriad of niche-within-niche models and the resulting homogeneity is baffling.

"We are giving customers what they want." No you're not, what you're doing is creating a continual, incessant demand for new cars....

Oh... As you were.
Considering MB are selling more cars than they have ever done before, they are "giving customers what they want"
Exactly. I can't see why so many people on PH are so disgusted and offended with a greater level of choice in the car market? Don't like big SUVs? Neither do I....guess what, I don't buy one. No biggie. Apply this logic to this niche which you don't understand and you'll find it doesn't stress you out smile

f1ten

2,161 posts

153 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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I'm a massive mercedes fan but ... there are now too many models and I agree, who is there to buy them all and even understand what the differences are ?!

Why bother with a CLS or e63 when clearly the amg will be better?

Andy665

3,622 posts

228 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Bit of a liberty by Mercedes slotting this in with the AMG GT when in fact its nothing more than a rebodied E Class and shares none of its platform with the AMG GT.

So it looks like we have:

E Class - saloon, estate, coupe and convertible

CLS - E class based four door coupe

AMG GT four-door - E class based five door hatch but aligned with AMG GT so that price can be maximised

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Wednesday 7th March 2018
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Ugly retarded looking heap of crap. Just as bad as the Panamara, the BMW 5 GT/3GT, Smart car, Audi A7, BMW X6.

Bike_boy

2 posts

77 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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looks like a BM from the front, and a Jag from the back...... talk about losing your identity !

Chestrockwell

2,627 posts

157 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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Andy665 said:
Bit of a liberty by Mercedes slotting this in with the AMG GT when in fact its nothing more than a rebodied E Class and shares none of its platform with the AMG GT.

So it looks like we have:

E Class - saloon, estate, coupe and convertible

CLS - E class based four door coupe

AMG GT four-door - E class based five door hatch but aligned with AMG GT so that price can be maximised
Is that a fact though, I can’t seem to find it anywhere but I read on a guy who calls himself ‘Mr AMG’ on instagram, has a YouTube channel called RemoveBeforeRace and he claimed that the AMG GT has a different platform to the E class and is created by AMG only.

I can’t believe that it is rebodied E-Class because Mercedes couldn’t be that stupid to do that, a niche within a niche for something that is identical under the skin as the other variants.

I love Mercs but their range is just becoming silly imo and the AMG badge has been diluted so much. I remember, if a car had an AMG badge on the back, it meant it was something special with a big thumping V8 in the front (Bar C32 & C36/E36). Now you can get C43 AMG’s with engines that are badged C400 in the states.

BMW range

M135i/40i
M235i/40i
M2
M3
M4
M5 M550i/d
M6/M6GC
X5M - X5M50d
X6M - X5M50d
X3M40i
X4M40i

Mercedes

A45
CLA45 - CLA 45 Shooting Brake
GLA45
C43/63/63s
E43/53/63/63s
CLS53
GLC43/63/63s - GLC Coupe 43/63/63s
GLE43/63/63s - GLE Coupe 43/63/63s (43’s formerly 450)
GLS 63/63s
S63/63s/65
GT /S/C/R
GT53/63/63s

What looks more absurd?

Sorry for lengthy post but I feel strongly about this subject.

DegsyE39

576 posts

127 months

Monday 12th March 2018
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Ares said:
FN2TypeR said:
That is vile.

They'll sell heaps of 'em.
It's not vile! A 640bhp AMG saloon is to be celebrated regardless, and rather than being vile, I think if it has a weakness (big IF), it's that it is a little too 'generic Mercedes'. The AMG GT looks like a retro roaster....long bonnet etc....this just looks, well, like a Merc. If you saw this with '350CDI' on the boot, it wouldn't look out of place.

For a competitor to, I guess, the AM Rapide (or incoming Lagonda)/Ferrari GTC4Lusso/Lamborghini Estoque/etc, it just misses wow factor.
Its hideous ares get to specsavers!

Did someone say upturned bath?!