RE: JLR Classic Defender V8: Driven
Discussion
Brynjaminjones said:
TooMany2cvs said:
It's very simple.
AWD means all wheels driven. There may be 4, 6 or 8 of them in total.
4wd means four wheels driven. This may be out of a total 4, 6 or 8.
4x4 means four wheels, four driven.
Not looking to get into a debate, but in the context of a four wheeled vehicle, every source I can find online disagrees with that. AWD means all wheels driven. There may be 4, 6 or 8 of them in total.
4wd means four wheels driven. This may be out of a total 4, 6 or 8.
4x4 means four wheels, four driven.
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, there's a lot of bks online about how this means part-time, and that means lockable centre diff, and a third means whatever some random loon's decided it means. They're rarely even consistent.
But, they consistently disagree with you. Not a single one agrees and some of them are from pretty reputable sources. Certainly more trustworthy than somebody on a forum anyway...
Edited by Brynjaminjones on Thursday 8th March 19:15
Brynjaminjones said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, there's a lot of bks online about how this means part-time, and that means lockable centre diff, and a third means whatever some random loon's decided it means. They're rarely even consistent.
But, they consistently disagree with you. Not a single one agrees and some of them are from pretty reputable sources. Certainly more trustworthy than somebody on a forum anyway...
Edited by Brynjaminjones on Thursday 8th March 19:15
hothatchery7 said:
DonkeyApple said:
So does everyone don’t they? It’s been in the reports that it’s the JE Zulu product fundamentally hasn’t it?
Which is a nice bit of history to have the company back involved with the factory.
I totally get where your coming from but the first 3 cars were developed and built in cumbria. Reiger suspension, AP brakes, upgraded bushes all round and the standard defender final drive. Which is the main reason for the low top speed stated in the article. Which is a nice bit of history to have the company back involved with the factory.
DonkeyApple said:
I didn’t know that. I thought they were using the JE set up. Thanks.
You could well be right and they have had input after our original 3 were built! Either way they are fantastic bits of kit and there will be many worse ways to spend that money. Respect to anybody that appreciates the lunacy of themBrynjaminjones said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Yes, there's a lot of bks online about how this means part-time, and that means lockable centre diff, and a third means whatever some random loon's decided it means. They're rarely even consistent.
But, they consistently disagree with you. Not a single one agrees and some of them are from pretty reputable sources. Certainly more trustworthy than somebody on a forum anyway...
Here's how I see it:
You could buy 100 nice houses for the price of a mega mansion in Brentwood, but what would somebody who can afford the $35m mega mansion want with 100 nice $350k houses in Maryland?
Just like you can buy 20 nice Defenders for the price of this, but what would someone who can afford to spend £150k on a Defender want with 20 run of the mill Defenders? None of us could justify spending money like that because £150k is dream car money, for the people who can afford to buy one, most of the time it's pocket change. Respect to the poster that's bought one.
You could buy 100 nice houses for the price of a mega mansion in Brentwood, but what would somebody who can afford the $35m mega mansion want with 100 nice $350k houses in Maryland?
Just like you can buy 20 nice Defenders for the price of this, but what would someone who can afford to spend £150k on a Defender want with 20 run of the mill Defenders? None of us could justify spending money like that because £150k is dream car money, for the people who can afford to buy one, most of the time it's pocket change. Respect to the poster that's bought one.
NomduJour said:
People who won’t and can’t buy one: Too expensive! Stupid! You could buy three used whatevers which are faster and more modern and more economical!
Land Rover: They’re all sold.
An excellent précis.Land Rover: They’re all sold.
Would be helpful to cut and paste, changing just the manufacturer name, into any number of threads.
Love it. When I read about it a few weeks ago I went and bought some lottery tickets.
Amuses me how a susposedly car focused forum you get people so willing to knock a car product rather than celebrate it.
Shame they didn’t make them like this earlier and cheaper would be perfect for me and the dogs.
I’m just hoping the dont fk yo the replacement looks wise. G wagon managed to stay the same.
Amuses me how a susposedly car focused forum you get people so willing to knock a car product rather than celebrate it.
Shame they didn’t make them like this earlier and cheaper would be perfect for me and the dogs.
I’m just hoping the dont fk yo the replacement looks wise. G wagon managed to stay the same.
TooMany2cvs said:
It's far simpler than that, and you're thinking too narrowly.
AWD means all wheels are driven. It says nothing about how many wheels that is. This is AWD, but not 4wd.
4wd means four wheels are driven. It says nothing about the total number of wheels. This is 4wd, but not AWD.
4x4 says that there are four wheels, of which four are driven. The first truck is 6x6, the second is 6x4.
Don't get confused with permanent or part-time systems, or about the centre diff and/or transfer box technology.
I am totally confused now. That first truck has 10 wheels????? AWD means all wheels are driven. It says nothing about how many wheels that is. This is AWD, but not 4wd.
4wd means four wheels are driven. It says nothing about the total number of wheels. This is 4wd, but not AWD.
4x4 says that there are four wheels, of which four are driven. The first truck is 6x6, the second is 6x4.
Don't get confused with permanent or part-time systems, or about the centre diff and/or transfer box technology.
In truck land two tyres bolted to the same end of an axle count as one wheel in the UK. Our American cousins, in their never-ending failure of modesty, count each tire as a wheel.
400 bhp to get to 106 mph? I suppose I should be grateful my 2286cc Series III Diesel ever made it to 60 mph with only 62 bhp.
400 bhp to get to 106 mph? I suppose I should be grateful my 2286cc Series III Diesel ever made it to 60 mph with only 62 bhp.
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