RE: Nissan 370Z MY18: Driven

RE: Nissan 370Z MY18: Driven

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TwinExit

532 posts

93 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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350Matt said:
Sorry but these have always been far too fat to be right


1550KG!!!

A 2 seater sports car needs to be 1000kg ish, I can live with 1200kg whilst still grumbling about it but 1500+ is waaay too fat
So how many of these 1000 kilo 2 seater sports cars you driven and advocate the use on the road in today's climate?

Anything that light is either a kit car or an underpowered tin can from the post-war era, most 2 seater capable RACE cars weigh in around 1200 kg - how can you correlate an arbitrary weight that you pulled out of thin air to what is considered sporty?

Stick your engineering textbooks.







Edited by TwinExit on Tuesday 13th March 12:54

tomic

720 posts

146 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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fido said:
I don't think there is much you can do emissions wise with something naturally-aspirated, nearly 4 litres in size. Their new Variable Compression Ratio 2.0 litre turbo would slot in nicely though - even better if they did a 2.5 straight-five version.
It still uses port injection - I would imagine that using direct injection would get it right down like BMW did with their engines. The N53 3.0 was 173gm CO2 ten years ago. Hopefully in ten years they've been able to improve the reliability of those systems.

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Nanook said:
wab172uk said:
Yeah, because £1.37 a day is far too much !!!!

If you can't afford £500 a year for road Tax, maybe it's not the car for them, considering the other high running costs.
I drive a 350Z. It costs me £535/year to tax.

I can afford it.

I still think it's bullst though.
It's now £140 per year to tax new 370Zs, those registered from April 2017 onwards.

It's typical of PH journalistic standards that they completely fail to mention this rather important point.

sandys

207 posts

247 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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TwinExit said:
So how many of these 1000 kilo 2 seater sports cars you driven and advocate the use on the road in today's climate?

Anything that light is either a kit car or an underpowered tin can from the post-war era, most 2 seater capable RACE cars weigh in around 1200 kg - how can you correlate an arbitrary weight that you pulled out of thin air to what is considered sporty?
Indeed, my NC MX5 soft top is 1100kg and it only has a 2.0, the optioned up ones are even heavier. The ND fares a little better but that can only crack a ton on the base 1.5.

It is amazing how the Z can be so small and so heavy at the same time though biggrin but again same for my MX5 I wonder that too.

Edited by sandys on Tuesday 13th March 13:10

Pommy

14,262 posts

217 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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350Matt said:
Sorry but these have always been far too fat to be right


1550KG!!!

A 2 seater sports car needs to be 1000kg ish, I can live with 1200kg whilst still grumbling about it but 1500+ is waaay too fat
Its not 1975 fella

liner33

10,694 posts

203 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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daemon said:
Agreed. Our A45 is only a couple of MPG more economical than the 370Z was, but the perception out there among buyers is that they are hard on fuel

Did the 350 not have a big strut brace across the back that restricted boot access? We always thought bootspace on the 370 was fine, given what it was.
Yeah the 350 has a brace but is much much deeper , the 370z has a really shallow boot which is not useful if you need to put a suitcase in it

Alex_225

6,264 posts

202 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Summit_Detailing said:
Who knew Nissan still made/sold these!?
I actually didn't realise they still made them although I always preferred the looks of the 370 over the 350, just seemed to have the looks more sports car than muscle car. Decent increase in performance as well.

I still think they do actually still look good, old school but still a lot of fun. Quite unusual to not have dual clutch this and turbo charged that.

Bennet

2,122 posts

132 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Always liked the idea of it, but its design brief just doesn't seem to suit real life. I can see why it's popular in the US.

Richie1708

1 posts

74 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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My 1994 300zx twin turbo was replaced by one of the first 350z's to arrive in the UK..
It was nowhere near as good in every department.. ! Now I have a 2012 GTR.. which has kept my faith in Nissan!! (must be mad as i.m restoring a UK 280zx 2+2 back to factory spec ).. hopefully a new Zed will be more 240z than 370

TommyBuoy

1,269 posts

168 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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I've been looking at these and would I go for one it would be the NISMO.

Can anyone tell me whether the nismo handles better etc?

unsprung

5,467 posts

125 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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TommyBuoy said:
I've been looking at these and would I go for one it would be the NISMO.

Can anyone tell me whether the nismo handles better etc?
Plenty of independent reviews of the NISMO version, online. The suspension upgrades are notable.

I'll join the bandwagon and say that people will miss this car when it's gone. Second-hand they can be a good deal indeed, and there are tasteful mod's aplenty.

The entire 370Z range sells on average 5,000 units per annum in the US. This is roughly equivalent to twice the volume achieved by the Porsche Cayman.

Pricing there starts at a £22,000 and rises to £32,000 for the 350 hp NISMO Tech.


ZX10R NIN

27,632 posts

126 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Drive a 370Z Nismo they're a true drivers car & handle really well but they're hard to find.

SpunkyM

250 posts

245 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Done many miles in a 370Z although I don't own one. I never found the engine note pleasant - in fact the whole car just felt a bit tiring to drive... like you always arrive at your destination fatigued with a mild headache. It's never something I looked forward to getting into and going for a blast. I also got pretty horrendous mpg given the modest level of performance.

BUT I do think they look great.

cib24

1,117 posts

154 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Weren't they like £26-27k last year list? I guess the change in Nissan's locked in forward rate must have expired. £35k for this is too much nowadays but when you could haggle down to £25k brand new with a warranty they looked like great value. Especially compared to a GT86.

VR6 Eug

636 posts

200 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Im after a coupe gt car this year and my options were a Z4 coupe, a boxter 3.2s" i know its not a coupe" and a 350z and to be honest, the Z4 was my choice for looks alone and boxter 2nd but after a drive in a 350z my minds made up, it feels like a mans car and that engine is just all brawn and Im now in the 350Z camp but its downside is inside is made from old barbie houses but again i can forgive it, as it feels like a mans cars, if that makes sense, almost like a modern day muscle car...the Z4 is going up in price which I cant really afford now and the boxters are 2 a penny but high bills and hairdresser looks put me off but It was the best handling of the 3 in my usless opinion, the boxter felt like a new running shoe, the BMW had run flats and hopped all over the place and now I just cant see anything else that got the coupe looks and NA engine like the 350z....

daemon

35,841 posts

198 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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cib24 said:
Weren't they like £26-27k last year list? I guess the change in Nissan's locked in forward rate must have expired. £35k for this is too much nowadays but when you could haggle down to £25k brand new with a warranty they looked like great value. Especially compared to a GT86.
No just more crap journalism by PH - they're talking about a 370Z but quoting the price of a 370Z GT.

Any of the main brokers will sell you the standard 370Z with a list price of £29K odd, for £26K ish

Wadeski

8,162 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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I always wondered if these just needed to be handed over to a tuner for "special edition" handling as per the RX-8 PZ by Prodrive.

Some chassis bracing, better spring / damper combo for UK roads (vs the smooth-as-a-racetrack Japanese tarmac), some nice alloys and badges and the press would love it again.

daemon

35,841 posts

198 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Wadeski said:
I always wondered if these just needed to be handed over to a tuner for "special edition" handling as per the RX-8 PZ by Prodrive.

Some chassis bracing, better spring / damper combo for UK roads (vs the smooth-as-a-racetrack Japanese tarmac), some nice alloys and badges and the press would love it again.
Havent you pretty much just described the Nismo variant?

Edited by daemon on Tuesday 13th March 18:31

Wadeski

8,162 posts

214 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Wasn't that the one with worse ride and handling? And that was, like most of the NISMOS, crazy expensive?

Darryl247W

564 posts

124 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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I love the rufty-tufty recipe, so I test drove one last year. It didn't entertain me in any way, despite being the most powerful thing I've ever driven.
I so wanted to like it. With so few old-school packages around, it's a shame.