RE: New Fiesta ST gets LSD
Discussion
Alluring to the previous allusion concerning how Audi’s models overlap, they also tend to look alike.
Honestly, can one tell an A3 saloon from an a4 saloon from more than 100ft away?
Ford seem to be treading the same track, the new Fiesta looks like a Focus to me from the front, and to me the lack of individualism is like my ex-wife; a huge turn-off...
Performance aside, I prefer the days when an XR2 looked different to the cooking Fiesta, and significantly different to an XR3 or XR4i.
Rose tinted glasses and all that...
Honestly, can one tell an A3 saloon from an a4 saloon from more than 100ft away?
Ford seem to be treading the same track, the new Fiesta looks like a Focus to me from the front, and to me the lack of individualism is like my ex-wife; a huge turn-off...
Performance aside, I prefer the days when an XR2 looked different to the cooking Fiesta, and significantly different to an XR3 or XR4i.
Rose tinted glasses and all that...
Turbobanana said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
Oh and those pictures are vomit inducing quality PH.
Looks alright for a "news"-type article to me. What are you planning to do with it - blow it up as a poster for your bedroom wall?M1C said:
Well, bucking the trend - but i like the rear end.
I've read the 'first ride' review on Autocar and it seems to be very impressive. Lots of new things on this model and not just a different engine.
I agree. Having owned at Mk7 ST for years I still find the rear quite ungainly - it is definitely the least flattering angle. The light clusters in particular are a fussy mix of conjoining angles. I've read the 'first ride' review on Autocar and it seems to be very impressive. Lots of new things on this model and not just a different engine.
The Mk8’s rump looks a little more premium to my eyes.
t. Over complicated.Quaife ATB Limited Slip Differential:
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Often imitated but never improved, the Quaife Automatic Torque Biasing (ATB) limited slip differential is the perfect traction solution that delivers noticeable performance benefits on any car using a factory ‘open’ differential unit.
Widely accepted as the upgrade of choice for road car owners and motorsport competitors looking to improve their vehicle’s traction, handling balance and braking capabilities, the Quaife ATB limited slip differential is a direct replacement for a standard factory ‘open’ differential and is available for most popular front, rear and four wheel drive cars.
Originally introduced in the 1980’s, Quaife ATB limited slip differentials are well proven, precision engineered, British made, highly durable and used worldwide in rallying, circuit racing, sprinting, rallycross and Time Attack.
Silent in operation (even during low-speed parking manoeuvres) the Quaife ATB limited slip unit never ‘locks,’ making it progressive, safe and user friendly. Unlike plate-style LSD designs there are no clutches, ramps, springs or other wear prone components to replace at regular intervals, because the Quaife ATB’s well-proven system of helical gears is extremely durable, plus it’s designed to use standard transmission oils.
This worries me a bit to be honest. Did I read as well that the ST will also have fancy tyres with a different, grippier compound on the outer edge for better cornering bite?
It's all getting a bit much for a hot hatch. A car that should be simple and honest. The previous car was so good because it was setup with time and care by people who like to drive. No gimmicks, no drive modes, just a good chassis. And if it breaks...well it should be a cheap fix (relatively).
Now you'll need to be buying springs specific to the car, specific to the corner. And purchasing the unique tyres if you want to keep the showroom handling. No doubt they'll be a pretty penny.
I have actually seen a new ST in the flesh, driving about with a bit of anger. I didn't think it sounded all that great either...a bit parpy, like a scooter. But could well be a prototype or not have the final exhaust system on it.
I'm sure it'll be a good car, whilst new and under warranty.
It's all getting a bit much for a hot hatch. A car that should be simple and honest. The previous car was so good because it was setup with time and care by people who like to drive. No gimmicks, no drive modes, just a good chassis. And if it breaks...well it should be a cheap fix (relatively).
Now you'll need to be buying springs specific to the car, specific to the corner. And purchasing the unique tyres if you want to keep the showroom handling. No doubt they'll be a pretty penny.
I have actually seen a new ST in the flesh, driving about with a bit of anger. I didn't think it sounded all that great either...a bit parpy, like a scooter. But could well be a prototype or not have the final exhaust system on it.
I'm sure it'll be a good car, whilst new and under warranty.
I don't get all the hate for drive modes.
I like being able to soften or stiffen suspension depending on how poor the road surface is or if it's a smooth track in 2 of my cars. I also like having an exhaust that can be quiet or loud. Not fussed on changing steering weighting or throttle response but having exhaust and suspension adjustable at the touch of a button is excellent and pressing a buttonr once or twice ia hardly "too complicated".
I like being able to soften or stiffen suspension depending on how poor the road surface is or if it's a smooth track in 2 of my cars. I also like having an exhaust that can be quiet or loud. Not fussed on changing steering weighting or throttle response but having exhaust and suspension adjustable at the touch of a button is excellent and pressing a buttonr once or twice ia hardly "too complicated".
It's good to have options but with a little hot hatch like the Fiesta, i just want to get in and go, as apposed to fiddling around with certain modes to suit certain scenarios. If i want more noise, i'll simply squeeze the throttle a bit more. I'd also rather have just one standard suspension readily set up from the off.
With suspension in mind, i can see why there's different suspension modes on this new car, which is to counter the common claim of the MK7 ST being too firmly sprung. It seemed fine and completely acceptable to me though.
With suspension in mind, i can see why there's different suspension modes on this new car, which is to counter the common claim of the MK7 ST being too firmly sprung. It seemed fine and completely acceptable to me though.
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