RE: Land Rover Defender Works V8: Driven
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If I wanted newish nostalgia I'd buy this for 1/3 of the price - http://www.romansinternational.com/car/1156/land-r...
Gandahar said:
"Consequently, once the warm 'n' fuzzy feeling of hearing and feeling a V8 squirm on its mounts has faded,"
I have no comment to make on this sentence apart from I have no comment to make on this ridiculous sentence when talking about an off road car.
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"There's some fancier signage than Network Rail has treated its nearby distribution centre"
"On the inside though, it's a shiny, swaggering sensation".
" it's like being invited inside a goose bump"
"Bouncing around like a runaway jackhammer" actually I doubt they do runaway or bounce, we need to ask Kent local highways who are about to resurface the entire road outside my house again in April but due to potholes are "touching up" today. I digress.
"Making it seem a little less gaunt (without losing the cool) was high on the Classic Works' agenda, and it has succeeded marvellously"
Gaunt?
" typically resulting in an amber-coloured lasso being flung over the engine's 380lb ft of torque by the stability control."
Amber, that's bloody beige you git! I
It's written by Nic Cackett and he's back into his usual mode. I didn't think there was a great deal of relevant info in the first six paragraphs so I didn't bother reading the rest.I have no comment to make on this sentence apart from I have no comment to make on this ridiculous sentence when talking about an off road car.
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"There's some fancier signage than Network Rail has treated its nearby distribution centre"
"On the inside though, it's a shiny, swaggering sensation".
" it's like being invited inside a goose bump"
"Bouncing around like a runaway jackhammer" actually I doubt they do runaway or bounce, we need to ask Kent local highways who are about to resurface the entire road outside my house again in April but due to potholes are "touching up" today. I digress.
"Making it seem a little less gaunt (without losing the cool) was high on the Classic Works' agenda, and it has succeeded marvellously"
Gaunt?
" typically resulting in an amber-coloured lasso being flung over the engine's 380lb ft of torque by the stability control."
Amber, that's bloody beige you git! I
We were responsible for this one.... and a few other special sheds 
https://weedonarchitects.co.uk/project/jaguar-land...
https://weedonarchitects.co.uk/project/jaguar-land...
VXstuey said:
We were responsible for this one.... and a few other special sheds
https://weedonarchitects.co.uk/project/jaguar-land...
I have to say its not a very traditional building for what are essentially very traditional vehicles.https://weedonarchitects.co.uk/project/jaguar-land...
Pintofbest said:
It's like Groundhog day! This was a great post in the last thread that went the same way this with but maybe not within a handful of posts:
So funny reading this thread with all the know-it-alls.
I am one of these 'mugs' buying one of these cars. In fact mine is going to be the same as tested - build #4 in Fuji White arriving in April.
I'm also an owner of another unofficial V8, built at a so called 'fraction' of the price. It's been with Overfinch, JE, Nene and other specialists. It has actually cost over £100,000 and still is not right. I've driven many and the reality is none of the aftermarket options are as good as the official product which I have now driven.
Land Rover's version has been driven to the Sahara (in fact two went, towing new RR Hybrids) and back. Mike Cross signed off the ride and handling himself and the rest of the testing I was told about was seriously impressive, and quite simply no aftermarket gets close to this.
And the result? It feels like a complete car; a cohesive car. It's not just 'fun' in a rose-tainted way, it's genuinely good. I think people are incredibly naive to expect a manufacturer to sell a properly tested, warrantied product in small numbers.
The reality is, I couldn't care less what people think. I think it's a shame people would rather moan than celebrate it's existence. I will have the Defender I always wanted, and that's all that matters.The problem is people never want to listen to someone with first hand knowledge and experience, and will just throw comments around that are all pretty much the same.
I bought a 50th anniversary Defender and had JE rebuild the engine to 5 litres with custom heads, cam, valves, intake, exhaust, upgraded transmission, 1" lowered and upgraded suspension, 18" LR wheels, Tarox brakes, LED lights etc for a little over 50k so I think the 100k number above must have included the cost rectification of a lot of earlier mistakes.hondansx said:
So funny reading this thread with all the know-it-alls.
I am one of these 'mugs' buying one of these cars. In fact mine is going to be the same as tested - build #4 in Fuji White arriving in April.
I'm also an owner of another unofficial V8, built at a so called 'fraction' of the price. It's been with Overfinch, JE, Nene and other specialists. It has actually cost over £100,000 and still is not right. I've driven many and the reality is none of the aftermarket options are as good as the official product which I have now driven.
Land Rover's version has been driven to the Sahara (in fact two went, towing new RR Hybrids) and back. Mike Cross signed off the ride and handling himself and the rest of the testing I was told about was seriously impressive, and quite simply no aftermarket gets close to this.
And the result? It feels like a complete car; a cohesive car. It's not just 'fun' in a rose-tainted way, it's genuinely good. I think people are incredibly naive to expect a manufacturer to sell a properly tested, warrantied product in small numbers.
The reality is, I couldn't care less what people think. I think it's a shame people would rather moan than celebrate it's existence. I will have the Defender I always wanted, and that's all that matters.
skyrover said:
V8's suit heavy trucks... it has almost nothing to do with "performance" or "luxury"
I don't think I'm in agreement with you on that one - aren't the majority of performance cars (pre downsizing at least) V8's? And what do you think of most of the AMG models of the last few years?No doubt JLR accountants are rubbing their hands with glee on this one.. Probably a fun division to work for though.
However, the Defender offers no rarity nor unique engineering value. It's a fairly polished Defender 'hot-rod' and for me it's uncomfortably overpriced.
If Porsche built a 944 now with a Panamera engine, uprated suspension and flash leather interior, and asked £300k for it (I'd say a Standard 944 would have been double the price of a standard Defender) would that sit well? This is how the Defender sits for me.
However, the Defender offers no rarity nor unique engineering value. It's a fairly polished Defender 'hot-rod' and for me it's uncomfortably overpriced.
If Porsche built a 944 now with a Panamera engine, uprated suspension and flash leather interior, and asked £300k for it (I'd say a Standard 944 would have been double the price of a standard Defender) would that sit well? This is how the Defender sits for me.
Pintofbest said:
skyrover said:
V8's suit heavy trucks... it has almost nothing to do with "performance" or "luxury"
I don't think I'm in agreement with you on that one - aren't the majority of performance cars (pre downsizing at least) V8's? And what do you think of most of the AMG models of the last few years?To me the V8 is a working mans engine, found in blue collar sports cars and trucks.
Cheaper and simpler than a turbo diesel, yet offering the torque with a usable mid and upper range.
Of course i'm half American, so it influences my opinions... but there is nothing really exotic about the V8 in my eye, it's a tool to get the job done.
skyrover said:
Land rover should have been offering these from the factory with farmer spec interior and manual gearbox.
We, Army, used to paint our V8s random colours and use them for non-military exercises and other fun & games. There were always of a basic spec, just great fun to blatt around in - especially when you were'nt picking up the fuel bill.FourWheelDrift said:
If I wanted newish nostalgia I'd buy this for 1/3 of the price - http://www.romansinternational.com/car/1156/land-r...
Understood - but that car was £34,200.00 NEW and is now being advertised for £55K.
Mothersruin said:
skyrover said:
Land rover should have been offering these from the factory with farmer spec interior and manual gearbox.
We, Army, used to paint our V8s random colours and use them for non-military exercises and other fun & games. There were always of a basic spec, just great fun to blatt around in - especially when you were'nt picking up the fuel bill.Cheap, cheerful and capable.
Mastiff said:
FourWheelDrift said:
If I wanted newish nostalgia I'd buy this for 1/3 of the price - http://www.romansinternational.com/car/1156/land-r...
Understood - but that car was £34,200.00 NEW and is now being advertised for £55K.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff