I am very worried
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rainmakerraw said:
Yeah, but when your horse breaks down and goes to the scrapyard you can get another; because it's not about to be made illegal to make more of them.
It won't be made illegal. People will buy electric because they are better. Or at least 95% will, so no need for lawsDon't worry OP. Driving an ICE only car won't even make you a minority for decades, & the point where it becomes as the horse is to us now is so distant it's not worth thinking about.
Between now and then, AI will replace most of our jobs, globalisation will forcefully normalise incomes worldwide & we'll end up eating each other to survive, & personal automated drone transportation called on demand will replace the car anyway.
Between now and then, AI will replace most of our jobs, globalisation will forcefully normalise incomes worldwide & we'll end up eating each other to survive, & personal automated drone transportation called on demand will replace the car anyway.
In a few years there will be people modifying Ev's and making them interesting in a way that could blow our socks off. We could be talking cars with 1 or 2 seconds to 60 times. Even as an old fart who will not see the middle of this century I want to drive one of those.
It is not Ev's that will kill the affordable but exciting motor, it is self driving cars
It is not Ev's that will kill the affordable but exciting motor, it is self driving cars
GT119 said:
Yep, if ICE is dead, is entirely because of diesel.
Headline MPG has masked the true cost and now the game is up.
Replace diesel with EV and let the small minority who want to stick with ICE drive petrol.
The love affair with combustion that the OP refers to has got nothing to do with diesel anyway, so not sure why you would attack EV when in reality its diesel that's the real enemy.
Just this morning I was reading about the latest developments in diesel technology and the nitrous oxide free emissions technology that will be available within the next two years.Headline MPG has masked the true cost and now the game is up.
Replace diesel with EV and let the small minority who want to stick with ICE drive petrol.
The love affair with combustion that the OP refers to has got nothing to do with diesel anyway, so not sure why you would attack EV when in reality its diesel that's the real enemy.
Fear not OP, the ICE is going nowhere soon, and in the not too distant future we will have zero emissions petrol and diesel engines to lust after in addition to pure electric, hybrids and who knows what else will be developed.
The future is bright with even more choice available than we have today.
Eric, eat your heart out
Edited by Monkeylegend on Friday 23 March 18:12
I very much doubt it, cars will Be able to be bought with petrol engines until 2040, and then even further than that just with a hybrid engine. A car bought in 2040 will last until at least 2060, there’s no way in your life time that every single petrol car will not exist on the road. The e46 it’s self is already over 20 years old, and why wouldn’t it last another 20?
Electric cars will most likely be the norm but they will not be the only car type on the road
Electric cars will most likely be the norm but they will not be the only car type on the road
Just because it's an EV doesn't make it "boring"
My little i3 is by far the most fun car i've ever owned! Compared to say a 118d it's a brilliantly amusing thing, and far, far more fun to drive day to day.
In 20 years, we can have fun driving our EVs to classic car races and watch people vapourise hydrocarbon fuels for fun, just like people currently drive to Traction Engine shows at the weekend today......
My little i3 is by far the most fun car i've ever owned! Compared to say a 118d it's a brilliantly amusing thing, and far, far more fun to drive day to day.
In 20 years, we can have fun driving our EVs to classic car races and watch people vapourise hydrocarbon fuels for fun, just like people currently drive to Traction Engine shows at the weekend today......
Although I am an old fart compared to the OP, I find the technolgy of EVs and hybrids fascinating and don't see why the choice of powerplant should be the only factor that dtermines whether a car is involving to drive. I also have no issue with folk just wanting a car to get from A to B, that after all is the main function of a car. What I do hate is the ever-increasing tendency to look on cars merely as fashion accessories or status symbols, you can see some decent cars compromised by the tacky tinsel thrown at them, I'd happily take a sledge-hammer to every oversize diamond cut alloy with rubber band tyres that I see. I am old enough to remember when cars were either domestic appliances or something that you drove just for the fun of it, but now the latter type dosesn't seem to be made by any of the mass producers, even though EVs are only a tiny percentage of the market, so I can't see things getting worse as they become more widespread.
Ah, another PH'er running a new account to start a wind-up thread on a subject that's been done to death on here.
Still it makes a change from the usual "why is nobody swiping me on Tinder?", "what's wrong with my dating profile?", "why can't i bag a teenage girlfriend?" and all the other ones along those lines that normally get posted on here in addition to the cyclist rants, etc.
Still we've got a few more days respite until the Easter hols kick in and then we'll have at least 2 weeks of even more pointless threads than this one to look forward to.
Still it makes a change from the usual "why is nobody swiping me on Tinder?", "what's wrong with my dating profile?", "why can't i bag a teenage girlfriend?" and all the other ones along those lines that normally get posted on here in addition to the cyclist rants, etc.
Still we've got a few more days respite until the Easter hols kick in and then we'll have at least 2 weeks of even more pointless threads than this one to look forward to.
Maybe if everyone had an EV as their daily driver then the nominal amount of air pollution created by a nominal number of ICE vehicles owned by the nominal percentage of the population that call themselves car enthusiasts would negate the need for any regulation. It could be a good thing.
IanCress said:
I think ICE vehicles will still be around, but you'll be restricted where you can drive it (not in cities, for example). Fuel and tax will become expensive, so they will be effectively restriced to a weekend car.
I can imagine a time in the future where you will use electric for commuting, but you still have a V8 in the garage for weekend fun.
Similar to horses - they have long since stopped being the main mode of transport, but plenty of people still keep them in their garage and stick £20 of unleaded in them at the weekend.
I'm not a horse expert. Mine died.
This is exactly itI can imagine a time in the future where you will use electric for commuting, but you still have a V8 in the garage for weekend fun.
Similar to horses - they have long since stopped being the main mode of transport, but plenty of people still keep them in their garage and stick £20 of unleaded in them at the weekend.
I'm not a horse expert. Mine died.
I'm also 19, and I amn't bothered about the future being electric.
I will gladly commute in an electric car, so long as it isn't vastly more expensive than an ICE vehicle (which it won't be).
I will gladly drive an ICE at the weekend, it will make it more special anyway.
Max_Torque said:
My little i3 is by far the most fun car i've ever owned! Compared to say a 118d it's a brilliantly amusing thing, and far, far more fun to drive day to day.
Damned with faint praise. The x18d engine tops my "most hated engine" list so frankly I wouldn't be shocked if a pedal car wouldn't be far, far more fun to drive day to day. ICE cars will become a hobby, more tracks will be built... hopefully more extensive courses like the Nordschleife. Maybe ICE days/weeks in the year when we can drive them on roads. Buy shares in companies that manufacture trailers. Though I wonder what this scenario would do for prices of classics.
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