RE: Ford Mustang GT facelift: Driven

[Chafford1]

Bibbs said:

See a lot of these every day.

For the money I can't think of something (new) I'd prefer. Even after an animated conversation over a few beers with a few other PH members.

Good choice until a RHD Camaro is available to replace the dead Commodore/Falcon.

But only in Australia and only as an official conversion from a LHD Camaro. It's on the HSV Special Vehicles website - much more expensive than the Mustang Down Under.

[Bibbs]

Chafford1 said:

But only in Australia and only as an official conversion from a LHD Camaro. It's on the HSV Special Vehicles website - much more expensive than the Mustang Down Under.

There will be be a RHD GM option soon enough. They'll be looking at the Ford sales and wanting a slice.

[anonymous-user]

Bibbs said:

There will be be a RHD GM option soon enough. They'll be looking at the Ford sales and wanting a slice.

Any proof of that? Unlike Ford, GM don’t have a global platform on which to base the Camaro or Corvette and sales would be so low I doubt it would be worth engineering one. They had access to the UK market through Holden and they killed that.

[Bibbs]

wormus said:

Any proof of that? Unlike Ford, GM don’t have a global platform on which to base the Camaro or Corvette and sales would be so low I doubt it would be worth engineering one. They had access to the UK market through Holden and they killed that.

Nothing in stone, but they have been talking about the next gen being RHD for ages now.

https://carbuzz.com/news/right-hand-drive-camaro-c...

[unpc]

Bibbs said:

wormus said:

Any proof of that? Unlike Ford, GM don’t have a global platform on which to base the Camaro or Corvette and sales would be so low I doubt it would be worth engineering one. They had access to the UK market through Holden and they killed that.

Nothing in stone, but they have been talking about the next gen being RHD for ages now.

https://carbuzz.com/news/right-hand-drive-camaro-c...

Seems unlikely GM would sell them here as they no longer have any access to the UK market now they've sold off Vauxhall. They're not likely to set up a dealership network for a handful of cars.

[Dr Interceptor]

unpc said:

Bibbs said:

wormus said:

Any proof of that? Unlike Ford, GM don’t have a global platform on which to base the Camaro or Corvette and sales would be so low I doubt it would be worth engineering one. They had access to the UK market through Holden and they killed that.

Nothing in stone, but they have been talking about the next gen being RHD for ages now.

https://carbuzz.com/news/right-hand-drive-camaro-c...

Seems unlikely GM would sell them here as they no longer have any access to the UK market now they've sold off Vauxhall. They're not likely to set up a dealership network for a handful of cars.

You'd probably just need the one official importer and dealer.

It's the kind of car that if someone really wants one, they'll travel, rather than relying on there being a Ford dealership in every town.

<< Fires off an email to GM offering my services >>

[unsprung]

If you're now comparing Mustang and Camaro, you might appreciate this recent review of the two celebrated contenders.

From the article:

"We have the distinct feeling that the new Coyote is putting out more than 460 ponies."

"There’s about 4,000 years of evolution separating the two."

[Chafford1]

unpc said:

Seems unlikely GM would sell them here as they no longer have any access to the UK market now they've sold off Vauxhall. They're not likely to set up a dealership network for a handful of cars.

Official imports of Camaros and Corvettes are still available in the UK through Ian Allen in Virginia Water:

https://www.chevrolet.co.uk/

[unpc]

Dr Interceptor said:

You'd probably just need the one official importer and dealer.

It's the kind of car that if someone really wants one, they'll travel, rather than relying on there being a Ford dealership in every town.

<< Fires off an email to GM offering my services >>

That's great. I can see the decision process now. "Hands up who wants to spend X millions of dollars to homologate a car for the UK market? Oh, and by the way, we only have one dealership there."

[1974foggy]

Shouldnt have messed with the front - looks worse than before

[Track Rod]

Love these, one of the very few new cars which appeal to me. In the picture of the instrument panel, what is the gauge in the middle? It looks a boost pressure gauge, and the one on the left, what on earth is that?

I will have one of these soon, when those b******s at BOTB pull their fingers out!!

[throwyourbike]

Older generation Mustangs built exclusively for the American market had a style of their own - they were brutal, almost ugly. Flawed but full of character.
Opening the car up to the Europeans has ruined it.

As Rory on Top Gear said... I don’t want a Mustang my mum would drive.

[unsprung]

Track Rod said:

In the picture of the instrument panel, what is the gauge in the middle? It looks a boost pressure gauge, and the one on the left, what on earth is that?

"Eight possible gauges display various vehicle information: vacuum (on V-8 models) or boost (four-cylinder turbocharged models), air and fuel ratio, temperature gauges, inlet air, cylinder head, coolant, trans oil (auto) and axle oil (if equipped with the GT Performance Pack), and voltage gauge."

In addition to choosing one's gauges, you can personalise the display using colour and animation. More at this article, here.

[Bibbs]

unpc said:

Bibbs said:

wormus said:

Any proof of that? Unlike Ford, GM don’t have a global platform on which to base the Camaro or Corvette and sales would be so low I doubt it would be worth engineering one. They had access to the UK market through Holden and they killed that.

Nothing in stone, but they have been talking about the next gen being RHD for ages now.

https://carbuzz.com/news/right-hand-drive-camaro-c...

Seems unlikely GM would sell them here as they no longer have any access to the UK market now they've sold off Vauxhall. They're not likely to set up a dealership network for a handful of cars.

Luckily I don't really care about the UK market, living in Aus.

[anonymous-user]

throwyourbike said:

Older generation Mustangs built exclusively for the American market had a style of their own - they were brutal, almost ugly. Flawed but full of character.
Opening the car up to the Europeans has ruined it.

As Rory on Top Gear said... I don’t want a Mustang my mum would drive.

What a load of guff

As for the Top Gear quote, desperately trying to be Clarkson with a quote like that.

[Track Rod]

unsprung said:

"Eight possible gauges display various vehicle information: vacuum (on V-8 models) or boost (four-cylinder turbocharged models), air and fuel ratio, temperature gauges, inlet air, cylinder head, coolant, trans oil (auto) and axle oil (if equipped with the GT Performance Pack), and voltage gauge."

In addition to choosing one's gauges, you can personalise the display using colour and animation. More at this article, here.

Thank you! I'll have a peep. The boost gauge makes sense now, I'd assumed it was a picture of the V8 instrument panel, I'd forgotten about the turbo'd Ecoboost.

[croyde]

Coin Slot. said:

throwyourbike said:

Older generation Mustangs built exclusively for the American market had a style of their own - they were brutal, almost ugly. Flawed but full of character.
Opening the car up to the Europeans has ruined it.

As Rory on Top Gear said... I don’t want a Mustang my mum would drive.

What a load of guff

As for the Top Gear quote, desperately trying to be Clarkson with a quote like that.

I remember that really annoyed me. I had waited ages for the Top Gear test but then they gave it to that young idiot who didnt know what a Mustang was all about.

Drive one and see what it is about. Mine was as far as any European car as was possible.

Although it did handle.

[rodericb]

unsprung said:

If you're now comparing Mustang and Camaro, you might appreciate this recent review of the two celebrated contenders.

From the article:

"We have the distinct feeling that the new Coyote is putting out more than 460 ponies."

"There’s about 4,000 years of evolution separating the two."

Interesting article and I encourage PH'ers to read it. Why? Well unsprung has quoted the "4000 years of evolution" thing but you have to see what sort of performance the Camaro actually put in. And the Mustang, old lazy yank iron it is, is only a quarter of a second slower than the M4 around Streets of Willow. But, the Camaro is three seconds faster than the M4! It laps SoW quicker than a Ferrari 458....

[Dr Interceptor]

rodericb said:

unsprung said:

If you're now comparing Mustang and Camaro, you might appreciate this recent review of the two celebrated contenders.

From the article:

"We have the distinct feeling that the new Coyote is putting out more than 460 ponies."

"There’s about 4,000 years of evolution separating the two."

Interesting article and I encourage PH'ers to read it. Why? Well unsprung has quoted the "4000 years of evolution" thing but you have to see what sort of performance the Camaro actually put in. And the Mustang, old lazy yank iron it is, is only a quarter of a second slower than the M4 around Streets of Willow. But, the Camaro is three seconds faster than the M4! It laps SoW quicker than a Ferrari 458....

Great article and write up - really enjoyed reading that, thanks for sharing.

[Plug Life]

big_rob_sydney said:

I'm wondering about its size. It just "looks" like a big footprint. If they put this side by side with, say, an early model, I'd be curious to see how they compare size wise. Mind you, that's the same for a lot of cars these days, and I'm not suggesting it should or would be any different, but it was more as a curiosity.

1967 vs 2015