RE: PH Service History: The 309 Effect

RE: PH Service History: The 309 Effect

Sunday 1st April 2018

PH Service History: The 309 Effect

Hero model prices gone doolally? Fear not - for many icons of our time, there's a less storied alternative worth rooting around for...



I'm a great believer in the 309 Effect. The what now? Well, its namesake is the Peugeot 309 GTI, a car which lived throughout its life - and, to an extent, still does - in the shadow of its the 205 GTI, which became an icon and left the 309 looking like the poor relation - rather unfairly, I hasten to add.

These days, that particular story is changing; a good 309 GTI is respected by enthusiasts and looked upon with fondness and reverence. As it should be. But there are still plenty of other cars that live in the shadow of a more favoured sibling - and while that might be unfair, their relatively unloved status means, you've guessed it, some used car bargains afoot.

I give you, for example, the Mk2 Ford Focus ST. In its 'ASBO' Orange glory, it was once famed in McDonalds car parks across the land, but the advent of the more powerful Focus RS and gleeful Fiesta ST have both left the Focus sitting at the back of the classroom. Don't forget why we loved it in the first place, though; quick, sure-footed handling backed up by a storming engine that managed hairy-chested torque while also goading you on to ever-higher revs. And threw a terrific five-pot warble into the bargain. Yet the ST is also a terrific all-rounder, capable of cosseting in the cruise and about as practical as they come. All this for considerably less than £5,000 - indeed, this one, in a very tasteful black-over-grey colour combo, has done below average miles, has an exemplary history and is yours for no more than £4,199 - which has to be a £4,000 haggle all day long.


Or if that doesn't grab your fancy, what about this Mitsubishi Legnum VR-4? OK, I'll grant you that this one can't quite match its hallowed Evo 6 stablemate for pace, nor for outright ability - but it's also a fraction of the price. And, that being the case, its 280hp output and ability to hit 60mph in 5.7 seconds make it sensational value. This one looks tidy and, on the assumption owning a grey import holds no fear for you, should make a fantastic all-rounder with the capacity to scare you senseless on the way back from the tip.

Staying with Japanese performance cars for a sec, the chances are you probably can't - or won't - afford a two-year-old Nissan GT-R NISMO, especially at around £110,000. Next to that, £28,950 for this 370Z Nismo feels like a snip. OK, the 370Z can't deliver the brain-twisting performance of the GT-R, but 0-62mph in 4.8 seconds isn't exactly to be sniffed at, and it'd be more than enough for me. Throw in meaty handling which rewards the driver who shows it who's boss, and it becomes quite a tempting thing.


But what about a 309 Effect victim that's a little more suited to daily drive duties? Well, when a Mercedes E-Class Estate will lug even larger loads just as luxuriously, why on earth would you choose a CLS Shooting Brake? Yet for most of us who don't need to cart around Chippendale sideboards on a daily basis, the CLS is roomy enough; what's more, it's terrifically pretty, a delight to drive and endlessly plutocratic - and an almost-new example is scandalously cheap these days. This 350CDI, with power and economy to spare, has done no more than 4,000 miles, yet it'll set you back just £29,000 - a full £23,000 less than the £52,000 it'd have cost you new. Yes please.

Mind you, a car doesn't have to live in the shadow of a sibling to suffer from the 309 Effect - it can live in the shadow of a rival, too. A case in point is the Jaguar S-Type R. You may scoff, but the R was in fact a stonking performance saloon, with terrific chassis balance and a delightful propensity for lurid tail-happiness. That V8 sounds exceptional, too, particularly if opened up with an aftermarket exhaust system. Yet of course, the main reason you'd have to think twice about buying one has always been the E39 BMW M5 - a car which always had the legs on the S-Type, just, and furthermore which came with a manual 'box.


Thing is a good M5 now demands somewhere in the region of £15,000 - meanwhile, a good S-Type R can be had for considerably less. Prices start, believe it or not, at the £6,000 mark; though for a fiver less than £8,000 you can have this very respectable example in Jaguar Racing Green, complete with a tonne of extras and a substantial history. It's so good, in fact, that I'm going to go away nand try to think of reasons why I shouldn't just buy one right now. And I'll leave you to come up with your own 309 Effect victims. Take it away...

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GibsonSG

Original Poster:

276 posts

111 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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My brother was a back street mechanic and I remember driving a lot of Mk2 Escorts of various denominations that were in for “servicing” (I’m sure their owners would have been delighted with my variation of the Italian tune up). But I much preferred my bro’s Talbot Sunbeam Ti. I think you can pick them up for a lot less than the equivalent Mk2 now. I also always fancied the Chevette HS, never did get to drive one.

Ian Geary

4,488 posts

192 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Good article. In my modest 20 odd years of driving, i've seen some cracking cars hit rock bottom only to shoot right up again.

I'm only 3 things away from snapping up such a car: space; money; plausible excuse for the mrs.

kellydk

62 posts

159 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Good article and nice to see some left field choices. I always thought the S-Type R was a bit of a bargain. Not been long since you could get one for £4K.

A couple of additional (some obvious) options:

Porsche Boxster. A good one from £6K but available for a lot less
Alfa Romeo Brera. Might not be the most dynamic but nice looking and less than £4K
BMW 330i (coupe, saloon or touring spec) for as little as £1K
Mazda 3 or 6 MPS from £4K
TVR Chimera from £8K

Fetchez la vache

5,573 posts

214 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Not sure if this is an April fools joke or just that as a 205 owner I always bought that the 309 looked a bit st and had been rammed up the arse - no matter what it drove like....

Just kidding.

AlexHat

1,327 posts

119 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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The Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 comes to mind. Same engine as the 147/156 GTA but missing the 'A' on the badge.

Prices for GTA's have gone above £10k whilst the GT still can be found around £5-6k

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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AlexHat said:
The Alfa Romeo GT 3.2 V6 comes to mind. Same engine as the 147/156 GTA but missing the 'A' on the badge.

Prices for GTA's have gone above £10k whilst the GT still can be found around £5-6k
I prefer the looks to the Brera ( which was mentioned earlier )

I think both fulfil the gawky looks box but I prefer the shabbier rear end on the GT ( I owned a 309gti which was similar styling )


borat52

564 posts

208 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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I can’t help thinking a V8 cerebra is also a great example of this. Sagaris prices are through the roof and yet you can find 4.5 V8 cerbs for under £25k. Surely that ajp8 will find the appreciation it deserves one day.

I’d take an early one in yellow with the round headlights.

Leins

9,468 posts

148 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Lancia Dedra Integrale

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Leins said:
Lancia Dedra Integrale
Lancia's own Alfa 155 Q4

tim-jxv5n

238 posts

96 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Renault 19 16 valve always overshadowed by the Clio. Handled excellent aswell

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Renault 11 Turbo ( Renault's "309" to the 5GTT "205" )

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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I missed out on a mint 309 GTI 3 door in dark green for £1K, ended up with a 1.6 Focus that I quickly sold. Big regret. I liked the look of them more than the 205, heard they handled better too.

evojam

568 posts

160 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Had both a 205 GTi 1.9 & a 309 Gti,trust me the 309 is no poor relation to the 205 in fact in many ways it's a better car,try finding a mint low miles 309 Gti nowdays,they've all but dissapeared!

rossub

4,452 posts

190 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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evojam said:
Had both a 205 GTi 1.9 & a 309 Gti,trust me the 309 is no poor relation to the 205 in fact in many ways it's a better car,try finding a mint low miles 309 Gti nowdays,they've all but dissapeared!
Try finding any 309 GTI! It’s a bit sickening that they’re almost extinct. I wonder how many of them ended up as donors for 1.6 205s.

Only 50-60 regularly taxed and about 300 SORN.

My Dad had one from new in 1987 to 2003 and it was utterly shagged by then. Every Mot was £500+ by the end.

TVRJAS

2,391 posts

129 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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My 309 gti ownership was totally ruined by continuous alternator failures,bought new March 88 and within 500 miles It was on the back of a recovery truck.
I lost count how many times it happened in two years but around 7-8 times, I just couldn't keep the thing any longer as it was so unreliable and the final time in happened I left the car with them and excepted £5600 for it after originally paying £10,800.

And before someone says it was preparing me for what to expect in tvr ownership,I'm on my 4th and have never broke down. eek


Edited by TVRJAS on Sunday 1st April 18:59

BricktopST205

909 posts

134 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Leins said:
Lancia Dedra Integrale
To the Delta Integrale would be the Celica GT-Four. 1/10th of the price, better performance for the day with equally credible heritage.

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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TVRJAS said:
My 309 gti ownership was totally ruined by continuous alternator failures,bought new March 88 and within 500 miles It was on the back of a recovery truck.
I lost count how many times it happened in two years but around 7-8 times, I just couldn't keep the thing any longer as it was so unreliable and the final time in happened I left the car with them and excepted £5600 for it after originally paying £10,800.

And before someone says it was preparing me for what to expect in tvr ownership,I'm on my 4th and have never broke down. eek


Edited by TVRJAS on Sunday 1st April 18:59
When I owned mine, I remember going to fetch some filters etc from the local Peugeot dealer - one of the mechanics was outside and seeing my car came over to tell me it was a nice looking example.
It was low mileage but he advised me to get rid of it when it got close to 80k miles as that was the point at which he regarded them as starting to cost a lot of money to run


tim-jxv5n

238 posts

96 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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306 gti6 is surely another underdog, living in the shadows of its little gobby tt uncle.

I've owned bòth, 205 was unreliable, uncomfortable and dangerous on the limit.

306 was and still is my favourite car, even after much more expensive vehicles. Comfortable, never let me down and truly astonishing to drive whether taking it easy or kicking the st out of it. Wish I'd never sold it but the lure of German metal at the time and the apparent 'presence' got the better of me.

I'd go back to Peugeot tomorrow if they'd make something interesting again. The trouble is the competition has caught up.

If this debate could turn to more modern cars, how about golf r vd s3 vs Leon cupra. I've driven them all and the best in my opinion is the Leon. Sales figures suggest otherwise though!! Another 309 (which was always better than the 205)

tim-jxv5n

238 posts

96 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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Plus the rear window openérs in the 309 were a work of genius. I've been in hundreds of cars but I've never seen that before or after

I'm sure somebody may enlighten me but the 2 levers between the front seats were magic

s m

23,232 posts

203 months

Sunday 1st April 2018
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tim-jxv5n said:
Plus the rear window openérs in the 309 were a work of genius. I've been in hundreds of cars but I've never seen that before or after

I'm sure somebody may enlighten me but the 2 levers between the front seats were magic
Remember telling my nephew they were for the front ejector seats!! smile