The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
C.A.R. said:
Try getting stuck in Stevenage behind a cyclist. This is evidence that despite a 23-mile 13ft-wide extensive cycle network (which is usually faster than taking the roads) will still get ignored by your typical "Tour De France" wannabe.
Stevenage Cycle Network Flop
Usual excuses are-
Pedestrians - very unpredictable. If you crash into one you might fall off your bike. Far better to spend it on the roads surrounded by large, faster-moving and unpredictable metal object instead.
Broken glass - yep. Broken glass never, ever appears at the edges of roads, it is specifically reserved for spreading on cycle paths, apparently.
The advantages are very obvious of course-
It's significantly safer - if you get struck by a car while using a cycle path then something has gone very wrong
It's all yours! - finally you can shout at people for getting in your way, instead of getting in the way of everyone else...
That point you make about glass just shows you don't know what you're talking about tbh. Stevenage Cycle Network Flop
Usual excuses are-
Pedestrians - very unpredictable. If you crash into one you might fall off your bike. Far better to spend it on the roads surrounded by large, faster-moving and unpredictable metal object instead.
Broken glass - yep. Broken glass never, ever appears at the edges of roads, it is specifically reserved for spreading on cycle paths, apparently.
The advantages are very obvious of course-
It's significantly safer - if you get struck by a car while using a cycle path then something has gone very wrong
It's all yours! - finally you can shout at people for getting in your way, instead of getting in the way of everyone else...
Broken glass rarely is a problem in the road for a cyclist, can't even remember the last time I saw any significant amount.
When I rode to work it was all over the cycle paths I used every single day, and it stayed there for months. At night, the path glistened with it. I even took my own brush a few times and cleaned a load up because I got so fed up of it.
Also - think about it - if the paths you talk about were safer, faster and over-all better than using the road, cyclists would prefer to use it. Despite what you might believe they're not going out of their way to use a worse route (i.e. the road) just to annoy you.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Tuesday 19th June 15:59
Cliftonite said:
cb1965 said:
Chaps, its a priority 'gate'. Your views would be fine if that were not the case, but like it or not the car should not have run through the 'gate' with a vehicle coming the other way. That is all there is to it and given I'm hardly known for my pro cyclist views on here I am surprised anyone else can see if differently.
Spot on!
We shall never know if the driver saw the bike or not.
C.A.R. said:
Europa1 said:
I suspect you may be right. Much money has recently been spent on a cycleway & footpath in one of the villages just outside Cambridge; the other day on the way into work there was a long snake of slow moving traffic, at the front of which was a cyclist on a racing bike. The cycle path was gloriously empty.
Try getting stuck in Stevenage behind a cyclist. This is evidence that despite a 23-mile 13ft-wide extensive cycle network (which is usually faster than taking the roads) will still get ignored by your typical "Tour De France" wannabe. Stevenage Cycle Network Flop
Usual excuses are-
Pedestrians - very unpredictable. If you crash into one you might fall off your bike. Far better to spend it on the roads surrounded by large, faster-moving and unpredictable metal object instead.
Broken glass - yep. Broken glass never, ever appears at the edges of roads, it is specifically reserved for spreading on cycle paths, apparently.
The advantages are very obvious of course-
It's significantly safer - if you get struck by a car while using a cycle path then something has gone very wrong
It's all yours! - finally you can shout at people for getting in your way, instead of getting in the way of everyone else...
If you are slow on a bike or like the London bike paths there is 100% separation most of the time then it starts to work well again.
budgie smuggler said:
Also - think about it - if the paths you talk about were safer, faster and over-all better than using the road, cyclists would prefer to use it. Despite what you might believe they're not going out of their way to use a worse route (i.e. the road) just to annoy you.
People will often take the easiest and most convenient route - rather than the safest or fastest. Stevenage's cycle network only has entry points in certain places. For a cyclist finding themselves between entry points, or requiring a small detour to reach one - it's just easier to stay on the road.
People are fundamentally lazy f
kers, even cyclists.mgv8 said:
So you are doing 20mph on a bike and people are walking in your path. This is both frustrating and dangerous, jump on to the road and off you go at full speed. Everyone is going the same direction and most of the time you can work together.
Slow down then......what's the hurry. Just leave a bit earlier....... 
mac96 said:
Actually , the Google car appears to be showing exactly how it should be done- hanging well back from the van in front of it until van pulls left and leaves a clear view ahead.
If the original car had done this, he would have seen the bike, and the cyclist, reckless or not, would have gone on his way.
Or someone would have take up the space between the google car and the van. Google streetview cars hang back from taller vechicles so as not to get an archive of hundreds of pictures of the back of a van. If you look at the distance on the Streetview it's way more than would usually be left at the sort of speeds this road should be navigated so not sure it;s a good gauge for distance.If the original car had done this, he would have seen the bike, and the cyclist, reckless or not, would have gone on his way.
But I'm concious that we're dragging a good thread off topic. I just provided my opinion with a bit of study of the detail. In my opinion, as previously stated as a cyclist and a driver there was some fault on both parts, however (in my opinion) I would apportion the vast majority of the blame on the cyclist. I understand you may see it differently, so be it.
StanleyT said:
https://youtu.be/0lQ3pw9V3Ak
Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Cyclist looks like they were tonking it down the road and lost it under heavy front wheel braking into a sidey skid as car driver pushes on through? Doesn't look like cylist was hit by car as they're going over long before the bollard (self preservation?).
Is it the camera angle / refresh rate or does the cyclist look to be much faster than the preceeding or following cars?
The necessary question however is whom would have been at fault if that were a horse coming the other way at 9am Sunday?
Wtf cyclists are retarded lemmings, hilarious- I can only presume his brakes failed completely.Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Cyclist looks like they were tonking it down the road and lost it under heavy front wheel braking into a sidey skid as car driver pushes on through? Doesn't look like cylist was hit by car as they're going over long before the bollard (self preservation?).
Is it the camera angle / refresh rate or does the cyclist look to be much faster than the preceeding or following cars?
The necessary question however is whom would have been at fault if that were a horse coming the other way at 9am Sunday?
Schmed said:
Mammasaid said:
Already done https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Schmed said:
StanleyT said:
https://youtu.be/0lQ3pw9V3Ak
Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Cyclist looks like they were tonking it down the road and lost it under heavy front wheel braking into a sidey skid as car driver pushes on through? Doesn't look like cylist was hit by car as they're going over long before the bollard (self preservation?).
Is it the camera angle / refresh rate or does the cyclist look to be much faster than the preceeding or following cars?
The necessary question however is whom would have been at fault if that were a horse coming the other way at 9am Sunday?
Wtf cyclists are retarded lemmings, hilarious- I can only presume his brakes failed completely.Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Cyclist looks like they were tonking it down the road and lost it under heavy front wheel braking into a sidey skid as car driver pushes on through? Doesn't look like cylist was hit by car as they're going over long before the bollard (self preservation?).
Is it the camera angle / refresh rate or does the cyclist look to be much faster than the preceeding or following cars?
The necessary question however is whom would have been at fault if that were a horse coming the other way at 9am Sunday?
Another road warrior trying to prove a point.
Very very funny
StanleyT said:
https://youtu.be/0lQ3pw9V3Ak
Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Hate these things, especially as a fairly regular user of 2 wheels, both with and without engines.Cyclist vs car.
Car hides behind van at one vehicle each way at a time bollards.
Making certain that traffic heading in opposite directions both need to use the same piece of tarmac is always, with the best will in the world, going to end in a head on collision sooner or later.
No matter the rights and wrongs of any given combination of how that occurs, it's pretty much always the two wheelers who are going to come off worse... quite often fatally worse, sadly.
I really can't see a strong justification for using them over other calming measures.
Incidentally, along the road from there and down a little path you can see Long Whittenham Backs - about the only bit of the Thames (ok, just off the Thames) you can fish without paying a million quid to a club
This may have been reposted as it’s from 2016:
Odd ball standoff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm-8pRke5jU
Odd ball standoff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm-8pRke5jU
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