The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

[The Dangerous Elk]

cb1965 said:

His MOT had EXPIRED???? Oh no, the world must have ceased to rotate on its axis!!! FFS, get a life!

Is not tax/no insurance/no MoT one of the big problems that endanger us all and our cherished motors ?

I do not do it but I am happy the "nerds" do.

[Torquey]

cb1965 said:

M4cruiser said:

This silver BMW's relatively small event turned bigger when I checked its MoT ... Expired.
(Ignore the date on the camera, it actually happened in early August; V961MGC)

https://youtu.be/icEqnKAEj4s

His MOT had EXPIRED???? Oh no, the world must have ceased to rotate on its axis!!! FFS, get a life!

Maybe the BMW driver somehow knew and didn't want to be held up by some knacker who needlessly stops at roundabouts and travels a dangerously low speeds.

[Krikkit]

mrnutty said:

Is the left lane a left turn only lane ? I guess that’s his only line of defence.

Looks like a very new piece of road where none of the lanes are marked.

Must admit I might've made the same mistake if I was in a rush, not at leisure pace like that though!

[4x4Tyke]

G13NVL said:

andy118run said:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/dashcam-footage-ca...

Article from my local paper. Actual YouTube link below as I have trouble playing videos from the newspaper site for some reason.

On the youtube video skip to 1.25ish to see the collision.

Pretty dumb piece of driving from the camera car. Not sure why he would want to be posting it up for all to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DVE6s5Ono

What’s that leaner doing how it end up there i wonder?

I wondered that as well and it drew my attention so that I missed much of the build up on first viewing, perhaps it distracted the two crash parties as well.

Newspaper didn't work for me either.

[4x4Tyke]

Dromedary66 said:

He says he uploaded it for Admiral to view. If there is anyone extremely knowledgeable about insurance here (I don't think there is after reading the cancelled insurance thread) would be interesting to hear which way they think that would go.

I feel like the DCW should be held 100% at fault.

I don't agree, based on my understanding of the highway code.

The transporter was in the wrong lane to be crossing that exit, look at the green and red arrows on the following diagram. It should have gone straight for the lane the car was in, the second lane. Look at the road markings on the exit, there are two lanes off the island, so the car can legitimately leave the island from the second lane he is in. However once the transporter was established the car should have been much more prudent; either of them could have avoid it, which makes them both at fault IMHO.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 21st August 10:12

[IJB1959]

4x4Tyke said:

Dromedary66 said:

He says he uploaded it for Admiral to view. If there is anyone extremely knowledgeable about insurance here (I don't think there is after reading the cancelled insurance thread) would be interesting to hear which way they think that would go.

I feel like the DCW should be held 100% at fault.

I don't agree, based on my understanding of the highway code.

The transporter was in the wrong lane to be crossing that exit, look at the green and red arrows on the following diagram. It should have gone straight for the lane the car was in, the second lane. Look at the road markings on the, there are two lanes off the island, so the car can legitimately leave the island from the second lane he is in. However once the transporter was established the car should have been much more prudent; either of them could have avoid it, which makes them both at fault IMHO.

The DCW should have seen that one coming IMO.

[4x4Tyke]

IJB1959 said:

The DCW should have seen that one coming IMO.

So should the transporter.

Hence my final sentence.

[Dromedary66]

4x4Tyke said:

I don't agree, based on my understanding of the highway code.

The transporter was in the wrong lane to be crossing that exit, look at the green and red arrows on the following diagram. It should have gone straight for the lane the car was in, the second lane. Look at the road markings on the exit, there are two lanes off the island, so the car can legitimately leave the island from the second lane he is in. However once the transporter was established the car should have been much more prudent; either of them could have avoid it, which makes them both at fault IMHO.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 21st August 10:12

In his lane the recovery truck can go to either the 1st or 2nd exit according to the road markings

[Rawwr]

The Dangerous Elk said:

breadvan said:

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.y...

Wilton House Supercar meet this morning.

Saved in the nick of time.......

Bit of a habit @ 9:10

https://youtu.be/-7ohHhOUFKw?t=552

Now there's a man leaning on electronics.

[NickGRhodes]

4x4Tyke said:

So should the transporter.

Hence my final sentence.

Reguardless I can't see the transporter doing anything wrong...
IMHO 100% DCW. Transporter did not indicate, DCW cut front of a vehicle that showed no intention to turn off or change lane.

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/roundabouts.html

When taking any intermediate exit, unless signs or markings indicate otherwise
select the appropriate lane on approach to and on the roundabout
you should not normally need to signal on approach
stay in this lane until you need to alter course to exit the roundabout
signal left after you have passed the exit before the one you want.

Edited by NickGRhodes on Tuesday 21st August 11:52

[hornmeister]

In my opinion (unless otherwise signposted) the left hand approach lane is acceptable for taking the 1st or second exit, the right hand approach lane should be used for taking the 3rd or 4th exit as a preference as these are past 12 o'clock. Therefore both were in acceptable lanes.

It looks to me like Dashcam didn't look in his mirror before exiting the roundabout and assumed the transporter was turning left. Dashcam wasn't going fast enough to peel off in-front of the transporter (he was effectively overtaking) and wasn't going slow enough to turn off behind it. The higher transporter wouldn't necessarily see the lower car pulling in front of him from that close distance as they were alongside each other when the manoeuvre was started.

it's my opinion the Dashcam is 100% at fault. I'd never turn off a roundabout without checking my left hand mirror and if Dashcam had done that he could have slowed to pass behind the transporter.

Edited by hornmeister on Tuesday 21st August 12:57

[Bullett]

The truck pulled out a touch late/slow but the crash is 100% DCW.

DCW should either have gone past faster or hung back (better option). I'm also curious about how the learner got there.

[Ultra Sound Guy]

It doesn't matter what it says in the highway code or what 'laws' (real or imaginary) should be applied! It's far simpler... take responsibility for your own actions, respond to what is happening around you, don't always make it someone else's fault and try making allowances for other people!

[Seesure]

Ultra Sound Guy said:

It doesn't matter what it says in the highway code or what 'laws' (real or imaginary) should be applied! It's far simpler... take responsibility for your own actions, respond to what is happening around you, don't always make it someone else's fault and try making allowances for other people!

This ^^^

Unfortunately we now have a large part of society who believe "someone else" is to be held accountable for all of their own short comings...

Slowly but surely we are becoming the 52nd state and devour Americanism with a fervor ... a country where litigation is nearly always at the forefront and where people want to end up so they get something for nothing...

[iSore]

Anyone who reads Viz and 'The Male Online' strip will know what most DCW's are like.

[NickGRhodes]

Seesure said:

This ^^^

Unfortunately we now have a large part of society who believe "someone else" is to be held accountable for all of their own short comings...

Slowly but surely we are becoming the 52nd state and devour Americanism with a fervor ... a country where litigation is nearly always at the forefront and where people want to end up so they get something for nothing...

Common sense and self-preservation playing 2nd fiddle to safty and social media popularity.

[mattyn1]

Ultra Sound Guy said:

It doesn't matter what it says in the highway code or what 'laws' (real or imaginary) should be applied! It's far simpler... take responsibility for your own actions, respond to what is happening around you, don't always make it someone else's fault and try making allowances for other people!

Far too sensible!

[rampageturke]

andy118run said:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/dashcam-footage-ca...

Article from my local paper. Actual YouTube link below as I have trouble playing videos from the newspaper site for some reason.


On the youtube video skip to 1.25ish to see the collision.


Pretty dumb piece of driving from the camera car. Not sure why he would want to be posting it up for all to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DVE6s5Ono

I'm pretty sure this roundabout has been featured in this thread and on a local news website before. If I remember, a local driving instructor was slating it for the road markings being crap. Judging by that video, I would be agreeing with him.

here we go https://youtu.be/Zf7Rj7EFnr4?t=58

Edited by rampageturke on Tuesday 21st August 14:17

[M4cruiser]

WilliamWoollard said:

andy118run said:

http://www.edp24.co.uk/motoring/dashcam-footage-ca...

Article from my local paper. Actual YouTube link below as I have trouble playing videos from the newspaper site for some reason.


On the youtube video skip to 1.25ish to see the collision.


Pretty dumb piece of driving from the camera car. Not sure why he would want to be posting it up for all to see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5DVE6s5Ono

I was wincing before that happened, entirely predictable. Wonder if that’s what happened to the driving school car too.

Agree, completely the fault of the camera car driver, the truck isn't signalling left, the camera man just "assumed" it was going left.
Or
It's the fault of the Skoda. If it hadn't broken down, the truck wouldn't have been transporting it!

[M4cruiser]

Megane driver didn't look properly before pulling out. No doubt if the camera driver had crashed into it there would be pages of comments, with some "stupid DCW" comments as well.
... but the camera driver braked, so it's a minor event.
P.S. I haven't checked the tax & MoT on the Megane yet!

https://youtu.be/WhuuMuHiszc