The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
cgauk said:
kev1974 said:
Not the smartest. But the speed differential between the stopped cars and the bike didn’t seem smart either. General question - when is it filtering vs overtaking? If a car was squeezing through that gap and hit a pedestrian I think most would see it as the cars fault?
saaby93 said:
who said dropping a speed limit reduces accidents 
Too many other factors involved
The local plod and councilllors, at the last neighbourhood meeting..... the limit was reduced because of the accidents on the road and this should reduce the muber of accidentsToo many other factors involved
Give me a reason where, on a perfectly good driving road that was 60 it is now 40.....the only one i cant think of ATM is people having a moan
Moonhawk said:
Matt Cup said:
Would that be classed as a 50/50 fault or Audi’s?
I'd say 50:50 - both vehicles were moving at the point of collision and both could possibly argue that the collision wouldn't have occurred had the other been stationary.mizx said:
cgauk said:
kev1974 said:
Not the smartest. But the speed differential between the stopped cars and the bike didn’t seem smart either. General question - when is it filtering vs overtaking? If a car was squeezing through that gap and hit a pedestrian I think most would see it as the cars fault?
I quite like Adam C3046's Youtube channel but he is filming some stuff that is terrifying, not just a cheeky burnout but some serious transgressions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
J4CKO said:
I quite like Adam C3046's Youtube channel but he is filming some stuff that is terrifying, not just a cheeky burnout but some serious transgressions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
Like this you meanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
https://www.google.com/search?q=girl+killed+traffo...
My daughter is 18 , I can't imagine what her parents are feeling, all because of some t
t who wants to show offEdited by wack on Tuesday 18th September 15:24
J4CKO said:
I quite like Adam C3046's Youtube channel but he is filming some stuff that is terrifying, not just a cheeky burnout but some serious transgressions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
"how did nobody crash?" he says as him and everyone else stand on the outside of a bend, blocking all visibility..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho3JGKMJZw8&ed...
That biker is just asking for trouble appearing at well over a ton to where a load of cars are exiting at speed/sideways, pedestrians everywhere, someone gets it wrong and could easily be multiple fatalities.
he's as guilty as the rest of them
mac96 said:
Sympathy for both parties really, and very lucky the girl wasn't hurt.
Still, she was in view as he passed rear of taxi- so he had more than a car length to react. Suggests going a bit fast. Really bothersome thing is all the comments on YT which think it was all girls fault and no lessons for the biker!
Commuted in London for years and there was no chance he could see her. When riding you can't see to your far left and right unless you are specifically turning your head. The helmet partly causes this, and then there is the fact humans only really see what is ahead of them, The brain discards most of the side vision - too much for the brain to process. The cam he was using has a far wider field of "active vision". Easy to criticise from an armchair.Still, she was in view as he passed rear of taxi- so he had more than a car length to react. Suggests going a bit fast. Really bothersome thing is all the comments on YT which think it was all girls fault and no lessons for the biker!
Plus, if you watch, she was walking slowly, then broke into a sprint as she saw a gap in the traffic. He really had no chance.
His filtering speed was pretty typical for London - I'd estimate around 10mph before he started slowing. Bicycles go a LOT faster.
Any pedestrian in London knows very well NEVER to cross the road through traffic without leaning out and taking a look first. Just about everyone gets a scare when they first move there and then never do it again. Usually it's a near miss with a cycle.
Every single space between each row of cars is a "filter" lane - there is so much traffic.
Use crossings, or take more care.
I cross the road with the same caution in a quiet town. A habit I can't shake now.
I've had a friend hit a ped who stepped out in front of him. Was a horrible experience for him. Wrote his bike off, insurance went up, had to prove it was not his fault. Had her family launch an abuse campaign against him (she was mostly ok, broken arm). And this from was a super nice guy who could not have been more apologetic.
Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 18th September 16:35
RogerDodger said:
Commuted in London for years and there was no chance he could see her. When riding you can't see to your far left and right unless you are specifically turning your head. The helmet partly causes this, and then there is the fact humans only really see what is ahead of them, The brain discards most of the side vision - too much for the brain to process. The cam he was using has a far wider field of "active vision". Easy to criticise from an armchair.
Plus, if you watch, she was walking slowly, then broke into a sprint as she saw a gap in the traffic. He really had no chance.
His filtering speed was pretty typical for London - I'd estimate around 10mph before he started slowing. Bicycles go a LOT faster.
I disagree. The biker went into that ‘filter lane’ at too high a speed. Plus, if you watch, she was walking slowly, then broke into a sprint as she saw a gap in the traffic. He really had no chance.
His filtering speed was pretty typical for London - I'd estimate around 10mph before he started slowing. Bicycles go a LOT faster.
In a place like that with so many pedestrians around you’ve got to expect something like this to happen.
I would filter between those two lines of traffic at walking speed, especially between higher-sided vehicles which could be obscuring a pedestrian about to cross.
FazerBoy said:
I disagree. The biker went into that ‘filter lane’ at too high a speed.
Correct. If you're going to filter, you need to be able to stop for this sort of thing.I'd suggest he's defensive from the start and trying to push blame on to her because he knows he was taking risks.
FazerBoy said:
RogerDodger said:
Commuted in London for years and there was no chance he could see her. When riding you can't see to your far left and right unless you are specifically turning your head. The helmet partly causes this, and then there is the fact humans only really see what is ahead of them, The brain discards most of the side vision - too much for the brain to process. The cam he was using has a far wider field of "active vision". Easy to criticise from an armchair.
Plus, if you watch, she was walking slowly, then broke into a sprint as she saw a gap in the traffic. He really had no chance.
His filtering speed was pretty typical for London - I'd estimate around 10mph before he started slowing. Bicycles go a LOT faster.
I disagree. The biker went into that ‘filter lane’ at too high a speed. Plus, if you watch, she was walking slowly, then broke into a sprint as she saw a gap in the traffic. He really had no chance.
His filtering speed was pretty typical for London - I'd estimate around 10mph before he started slowing. Bicycles go a LOT faster.
In a place like that with so many pedestrians around you’ve got to expect something like this to happen.
I would filter between those two lines of traffic at walking speed, especially between higher-sided vehicles which could be obscuring a pedestrian about to cross.
Usget said:
Biker did nothing wrong and had no time to react. Stupid from the pedestrian. She's lucky it was a bike she ran out in front of and not a bus.
Biker's inability to react was due to excessive speed- his fault- and, if poster above is correct, poor view due to design of helmet- his duty to be aware of, and ride accordingly. If I, in a car, knocked him off because he was hidden behind the windscreen pillar, and I hadn't bothered to look around it, he would rightly not accept that as an excuse.As for buses, you do know Harry Potter's Knight Bus isn't real?
https://www.pottermore.com/explore-the-story/the-k...
80sMatchbox said:
4x4Tyke said:
If you cannot stop in the distance you can see to be clear, car, bike or cycle makes no difference, you're travelling too fast.
He could see and it was clear. She then filled that space. You've referring to driving or riding around a bend, or fog perhaps.
It was a really easy mistake to make and I am not suggesting biker is a maniac- just hope he learns from it- he was just luck away from causing serious injury with all the possible consequences for both of them.
mac96 said:
It was a really easy mistake to make and I am not suggesting biker is a maniac- just hope he learns from it- he was just luck away from causing serious injury with all the possible consequences for both of them.
No mention of the pedestrians actions here? You don't think she should take something away from this?mac96 said:
80sMatchbox said:
4x4Tyke said:
If you cannot stop in the distance you can see to be clear, car, bike or cycle makes no difference, you're travelling too fast.
He could see and it was clear. She then filled that space. You've referring to driving or riding around a bend, or fog perhaps.
It was a really easy mistake to make and I am not suggesting biker is a maniac- just hope he learns from it- he was just luck away from causing serious injury with all the possible consequences for both of them.
This alone makes him a t
t IMONorfolkInClue1 said:
Looks like a prize bellend, good result.NorfolkInClue1 said:
Someone will find fault with the cyclists in a minute, such is PH these days. 
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