The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
jamei303 said:
A lorry driver could have helped like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6N1n9yfj84
But obviously they are all too busy fapping off their limiters while drooling over their busy schedules on facebook
Excellent.But obviously they are all too busy fapping off their limiters while drooling over their busy schedules on facebook
Frimley111R said:
The issue is really that these lights are so frequently wrong that people know that 99% of the time they can be ignored.
And, with any lane closure, people have always driven right up the end of the lane before cutting in. Just because there are red signs doesn't mean the road is any different.
I'm sure you know the difference between the two so not trying to teach you to suck eggs. A red X means the lane is closed so get out of it immediately. On the flip side, if a lane is shut due to roadworks and there's a merge point, it's not cutting in by driving up to the lane closure. If you were suppose to merge 1/2 mile earlier then the merge point would also be 1/2 mile earlier.And, with any lane closure, people have always driven right up the end of the lane before cutting in. Just because there are red signs doesn't mean the road is any different.
I've actually seen some people stop dead under the X displayed above the lane that's shut. Utter madness.
Edited by Robatr0n on Tuesday 23 October 09:50
andy118run said:
Alucidnation said:
Look like lots of people pulled over to help though.
I think pushing/pulling a broken down vehicle from lane 3 of the M25 to a safe position is probably a job for those suitably equipped.I sure as hell wouldn't be risking the wellbeing of my 4 passengers for a perfectly well looking fella who's making no effort to help himself. Of course, there could be more to the story but without anything obvious to say so, I'm not surprised nobody was in a hurry to stop.
Krikkit said:
In fairness to the guy in the video, with how busy it is, it's probably safer to sit in the car and wait for rescue/helpful truckers than try and walk through those 2 busy lanes to the hard shoulder.
I think I'd rather stay belted into even a small car than risk trying to cross live lanes.The biggest idiots here are those ignore or not seeing the big red X.
I hope they all get tickets in the post and perhaps that will buck up their ideas.
The Dangerous Elk said:
ashleyman said:
Regardless of why that car is stopped there, every single one of those drivers going through those red X's should get points + fine. No discussion just points + fine.
I cannot help but agree, clearly there is a problem ahead yet they keep going down those lanes.rampageturke said:
it's why smart motorways are inherently flawed
people aren't smart enough
I think they are smart enough to know they shouldn't be in that lane but until it hits the news that driving through on the red X is the same as driving through a red traffic light with a camera on they'll carry on, me me mepeople aren't smart enough
You rarely see anyone jump a red light with a *camera* sign on it but normal lights usually have people going through on red
rampageturke said:
it's why smart motorways are inherently flawed
people aren't smart enough
People have even touched on it in this thread; "I can't see any problem so the signs are wrong.", spectacularly failing to realise that it's about managing the flow of the traffic to try and keep it moving. people aren't smart enough
Frimley111R said:
andy118run said:
2. What alarmed me more was the (probably hundreds of) vehicles who ignored the lane 3 and 4 closures and happily proceeded beyond the big red 'Xs'. The gantry in the clip was not the first to display the lane closures - there was one 3 or 4 minutes before this one which switched the 'Xs' on just as I was nearing it. Hence, no exaggeration to say probably hundreds of vehicles ignored the lane closures.
The issue is really that these lights are so frequently wrong that people know that 99% of the time they can be ignored. And, with any lane closure, people have always driven right up the end of the lane before cutting in. Just because there are red signs doesn't mean the road is any different.
Robatr0n said:
Frimley111R said:
The issue is really that these lights are so frequently wrong that people know that 99% of the time they can be ignored.
And, with any lane closure, people have always driven right up the end of the lane before cutting in. Just because there are red signs doesn't mean the road is any different.
I'm sure you know the difference between the two so not trying to teach you to suck eggs. A red X means the lane is closed so get out of it immediately. On the flip side, if a lane is shut due to roadworks and there's a merge point, it's not cutting in by driving up to the lane closure. If you were suppose to merge 1/2 mile earlier then the merge point would also be 1/2 mile earlier.And, with any lane closure, people have always driven right up the end of the lane before cutting in. Just because there are red signs doesn't mean the road is any different.
I've actually seen some people stop dead under the X displayed above the lane that's shut. Utter madness.
Edited by Robatr0n on Tuesday 23 October 09:50
It's the same reason I rarely slow down for matrix sings showing lowered limits. Too many times I've dropped to 60, 50 and then sometimes 40 and then it's a NSL sign and there's not a thing in sight and we all slowed for nothing. The reality is that the management of them needs significant change/improvement.
Frimley111R said:
Yep, but people see a red X and then half a mile later another one and still nothing in the lane so they get used to ignoring them until they see a reason to get out of the lane. Not saying its right but it's (some) human nature.
It's the same reason I rarely slow down for matrix sings showing lowered limits. Too many times I've dropped to 60, 50 and then sometimes 40 and then it's a NSL sign and there's not a thing in sight and we all slowed for nothing. The reality is that the management of them needs significant change/improvement.
People seem to cope with a red traffic light in the absence of cross-traffic. But then everyone knows what a red traffic light means. Perhaps they should replace the red X with a massive traffic light.It's the same reason I rarely slow down for matrix sings showing lowered limits. Too many times I've dropped to 60, 50 and then sometimes 40 and then it's a NSL sign and there's not a thing in sight and we all slowed for nothing. The reality is that the management of them needs significant change/improvement.
Frimley111R said:
It's the same reason I rarely slow down for matrix sings showing lowered limits. Too many times I've dropped to 60, 50 and then sometimes 40 and then it's a NSL sign and there's not a thing in sight and we all slowed for nothing. The reality is that the management of them needs significant change/improvement.
Do you really not understand what the signs are doing?Rawwr said:
Do you really not understand what the signs are doing?
Buggering up traffic flow. The whole point of controlled speed limits is to reduce traffic to a speed that keeps it all moving smoothly. Constantly changing the speed limits up and down within a short distance achieves the opposite.Mr2Mike said:
Buggering up traffic flow. The whole point of controlled speed limits is to reduce traffic to a speed that keeps it all moving smoothly. Constantly changing the speed limits up and down within a short distance achieves the opposite.
Especially on the M62, at 2 o clock in the morning when the road is empty and for some reason the speed limit drops to 50. I'm all for dropping the speed limit to keep the traffic moving, but it does seem like there are times when there's no reason to drop the speed limit.
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