The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

[Krikkit]

Lemming Train said:

Thesprucegoose said:

Surely auto collision control shuld be mandatory in lorries , it just makes sense, that's if it worked proprley

It's doesn't work properly, that is the problem. Too many false positives. DAF tractor units are some of the worst for it as certain overpasses on the dual carriageway bits of the A1 trigger it and the truck does an emergency stop in lane 1 with no warning. It's got to the point where truckers are refusing to drive them as the haulage company are saying if you manually disable the function in the dash console and then have an accident you'll be held 100% responsible, regardless of the circumstances .

The problem is that integrating a good, dependable system will be quite expensive for HGV's, you'd probably need a pile of sensors together to increase the accuracy.

Edited by Krikkit on Tuesday 15th January 16:40

[Vipers]

Thesprucegoose said:

Surely auto collision control shuld be mandatory in lorries , it just makes sense, that's if it worked proprley

Driver should pay attention to the road, that would help.

[G13NVL]

NickGibbs said:

carreauchompeur said:

Wow, that sounds like a concern!

I'd like to see more info on this before taking Mr Train's tale as gospel. Link to a story or a trucker forum eg. Good to get facts out there (this technology is a powerful safety tool, so we shouldn't dunk on it without knowing exactly what's happening).

Anyway, thread derail.

Great on shi*t road caught on cam
https://twitter.com/i/status/1084769157525237760

He talks sense, all our wagons have it and they are far to sensitive or don’t work properly. I was passing a stationary car waiting to turn right on a slight left hander and the wagon couldn’t register I was going past the left of it and did a full on emergency stop to a standstill so much so I had bruise marks on my shoulder from the seatbelt. Luckily was empty and no one behind me.

They also don’t seem to like parked cars just after centre islands as your heading towards the parked cars before being able to pull out round them always sets the sensors off have to get on the accelerator quick to cancel it.

Edited by G13NVL on Tuesday 15th January 16:56

[Lemming Train]

NickGibbs said:

carreauchompeur said:

Wow, that sounds like a concern!

I'd like to see more info on this before taking Mr Train's tale as gospel. Link to a story or a trucker forum eg. Good to get facts out there (this technology is a powerful safety tool, so we shouldn't dunk on it without knowing exactly what's happening).

Nick, there's a load of reports on a site called trucknetuk forums from truckers all over Europe that it's happened to. I forget the exact name of the system on the DAFs now, AECD or something similar, but if someone knows the abbreviation you can probably search by that term to pull up any posts that may interest you, I'm afraid I'm not trawling through thousands of posts for you!

G13NVL said:

He talks sense, all our wagons have it and they are far to sensitive or don’t work properly. I was passing a stationary car waiting to turn right on a slight left hander and the wagon couldn’t register I was going past the left of it and did a full on emergency stop to a standstill so much so I had bruise marks on my shoulder from the seatbelt. Luckily was empty and no one behind me.

They also don’t seem to like parked cars just after centre islands as your heading towards the parked cars before being able to pull out round them always sets the sensors off have to get on the accelerator quick to cancel it.

Yes. Was that a MAN tractor out of interest? The 65-plate TGX I drive is a royal pain in the arse for it. Also slip roads off dual carriageways have caused it to slam on and do an emergency stop on a few occasions as well. You know from what you can see out of the window that the car will have fully peeled off from the main carriageway by the time you get there, ergo no reason to alter your speed or course, but the radar 'sees' the car hasn't quite finished traversing the dotted line and slams on, even though you're well clear of it in your own lane. It's only a matter of time until we start seeing fatal rear-end collisions from these false activations. The loud horn going off inside the cab is also fking annoying.

[anonymous-user]

Doshy said:

ashleyman said:

Latest UK clips. https://youtu.be/BCNCbCMBow0

First one is insane.

Looks like the car towing the caravan was being break tested ? Loving the toilet seat at the end.

I love the one at 3.30 with the car chase. Mental. He must've been in the Merc guy's blind spot.

Some serious yokels on there.

[ashleyman]

Couple good ones in here: https://youtu.be/KmvoEwP7HiY

Hope the kid in the first clip wasn't to hurt.

[ferrariF50lover]

cb1965 said:

Yes, I know it's a cliche, but what if a kid had run out such that the C-Max had to do the same or an even quicker stop? Sorry, but those saying it's anything at all to do with the driver of the C-Max need to hand in their licences or get some decent training on how to drive!

At any stage during our driving lessons (either pre- or post-test), are we instructed that the proper way to drive is to stop on the primary carriageway to allow those on a secondary carriageway to join?

Ill save us all the bother, the answer is no. There's a reason for that.

Yes, brains almighty should be paying more attention, but for driving avoidably unpredictably, the C-Max shoulders his own chunk of the blame. As someone else said, we have defined rules of the road, we should stick to those rather than inventing our own.

Edited by ferrariF50lover on Tuesday 15th January 18:42

[Fermit and Sexy Sarah]

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s06Km_1546160179

[JimbobVFR]

Fermit and Sexy Sarah said:

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=s06Km_1546160179

That was properly st driving from more than one party there.

[Graveworm]

ferrariF50lover said:

At any stage during our driving lessons (either pre- or post-test), are we instructed that the proper way to drive is to stop on the primary carriageway to allow those on a secondary carriageway to join?

Ill save us all the bother, the answer is no. There's a reason for that.

Yes, brains almighty should be paying more attention, but for driving avoidably unpredictably, the C-Max shoulders his own chunk of the blame. As someone else said, we have defined rules of the road, we should stick to those rather than inventing our own.

Edited by ferrariF50lover on Tuesday 15th January 18:42

The minor road with the give way line HAS to give way to the major road, Nothing to suggest that the major road can't give way if they choose to. If that were the case then, on any reasonably busy or queuing road, traffic joining with a give way would just sit there forever.

Of course stopping suddenly when a car is close behind you for no good reason can still be an offence despite the shortcomings and liability of the following car .But this car didn't stop suddenly and the car that just drove into it was not even very close.

[iwantagta]

ashleyman said:

Couple good ones in here: https://youtu.be/KmvoEwP7HiY

Hope the kid in the first clip wasn't to hurt.

The last clip - can't say for certain but i'm guessing the roundabout was absolutely clear and he expected the car in front to move.

[Penfolds]

https://youtu.be/s8YRqfdu6sU

[ThorB]

iwantagta said:

ashleyman said:

Couple good ones in here: https://youtu.be/KmvoEwP7HiY

Hope the kid in the first clip wasn't to hurt.

The last clip - can't say for certain but i'm guessing the roundabout was absolutely clear and he expected the car in front to move.

I’m glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that. Would be interesting to see to front camera.

[The Dangerous Elk]

iwantagta said:

ashleyman said:

Couple good ones in here: https://youtu.be/KmvoEwP7HiY

Hope the kid in the first clip wasn't to hurt.

The last clip - can't say for certain but i'm guessing the roundabout was absolutely clear and he expected the car in front to move.

1:54....helpful ...NOT, total prick.

[boobles]

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

[NickGibbs]

Lemming Train said:

Yes. Was that a MAN tractor out of interest? The 65-plate TGX I drive is a royal pain in the arse for it. Also slip roads off dual carriageways have caused it to slam on and do an emergency stop on a few occasions as well. You know from what you can see out of the window that the car will have fully peeled off from the main carriageway by the time you get there, ergo no reason to alter your speed or course, but the radar 'sees' the car hasn't quite finished traversing the dotted line and slams on, even though you're well clear of it in your own lane. It's only a matter of time until we start seeing fatal rear-end collisions from these false activations. The loud horn going off inside the cab is also fking annoying.

That is interesting and worrying. With a car's adaptive cruise you can just accelerate through situations you know it'll needlessly slow you for, but maybe that's not possible with a truck's emergency braking, eg in the slip-lane situation you describe above (again sorry for thread derail)

[Laurel Green]

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Kin-ell!

[Krikkit]

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

If it's real that's quite incredible. Not sure it is mind.

[kev1974]

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

That looks like attempted murder to me, there's no way the car's occupants didn't know that happened.

As bad as the car seat story yesterday.

Poor child.

[boobles]

Krikkit said:

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

If it's real that's quite incredible. Not sure it is mind.

This was my first thought. I crash test child seats for a job & you would have to be completely messed up in the head to get it so wrong. & to drive away!!!