The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

[Alex_225]

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Wow! I mean it's a poor enough show to think that firstly the car door wasn't shut and secondly that the car seat was able to just fall out. Secondly it's even worse that they didn't even bloody notice.

As a parent of two (5/1) it would horrify me to think they could fall out of the car! Poor little kid must have been terrified.

[saaby93]

Alex_225 said:

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Wow! I mean it's a poor enough show to think that firstly the car door wasn't shut and secondly that the car seat was able to just fall out. Secondly it's even worse that they didn't even bloody notice.

As a parent of two (5/1) it would horrify me to think they could fall out of the car!
Poor little kid must have been terrified.

Dont they normally turn around to you, smile and say 'again'

[anonymous-user]

ferrariF50lover said:

cb1965 said:

Yes, I know it's a cliche, but what if a kid had run out such that the C-Max had to do the same or an even quicker stop? Sorry, but those saying it's anything at all to do with the driver of the C-Max need to hand in their licences or get some decent training on how to drive!

At any stage during our driving lessons (either pre- or post-test), are we instructed that the proper way to drive is to stop on the primary carriageway to allow those on a secondary carriageway to join?

Ill save us all the bother, the answer is no. There's a reason for that.

Yes, brains almighty should be paying more attention, but for driving avoidably unpredictably, the C-Max shoulders his own chunk of the blame. As someone else said, we have defined rules of the road, we should stick to those rather than inventing our own.

Oh I see, so because the chap stopped to let a car out then he is to blame but if he stops due to an emergency the car behind is to blame. That is not logical and could only be a conclusion arrived at by someone who is very stupid. Whose fault it was has nothing to do with road laws or the reason why the car stopped in the first place and everything to do with the car behind not paying attention or maintaining a safe stopping distance (the former in this case).

[WinstonWolf]

The Dangerous Elk said:

iwantagta said:

ashleyman said:

Couple good ones in here: https://youtu.be/KmvoEwP7HiY

Hope the kid in the first clip wasn't to hurt.

The last clip - can't say for certain but i'm guessing the roundabout was absolutely clear and he expected the car in front to move.

1:54....helpful ...NOT, total prick.

The first one was very near where I live, the locals haven't figured out that red lights apply to them...

[saaby93]

cb1965 said:

ferrariF50lover said:

cb1965 said:

Yes, I know it's a cliche, but what if a kid had run out such that the C-Max had to do the same or an even quicker stop? Sorry, but those saying it's anything at all to do with the driver of the C-Max need to hand in their licences or get some decent training on how to drive!

At any stage during our driving lessons (either pre- or post-test), are we instructed that the proper way to drive is to stop on the primary carriageway to allow those on a secondary carriageway to join?

Ill save us all the bother, the answer is no. There's a reason for that.

Yes, brains almighty should be paying more attention, but for driving avoidably unpredictably, the C-Max shoulders his own chunk of the blame. As someone else said, we have defined rules of the road, we should stick to those rather than inventing our own.

Oh I see, so because the chap stopped to let a car out then he is to blame but if he stops due to an emergency the car behind is to blame. That is not logical and could only be a conclusion arrived at by someone who is very stupid. Whose fault it was has nothing to do with road laws or the reason why the car stopped in the first place and everything to do with the car behind not paying attention or maintaining a safe stopping distance (the former in this case).

There is a balance.
Much of it is about helping people on their way
It's why cyclists keep left to allow faster traffic to pass and tractors and caravans pull over if too many are held up behind

In slow moving traffic it's no great shakes to let someone out and on their way.
If you sharply came to halt for what might seem no apparant reason on a full speed through road, you might get rear ended - it's what the cash for crash scammers were doing.

[Ken Figenus]

saaby93 said:

In slow moving traffic it's no great shakes to let someone out and on their way.
If you sharply came to halt for what might seem no apparent reason on a full speed through road, you might get rear ended -

Have to agree - a little selflessness goes a long way if you recklon someone has been trying to pull out for ages into a busy road. I'd never come to a halt purposefully but an eye contact and a wave forward is a positive. Granted many get it wrong by trying to be too 'nice' and I too rage at those that come to a halt when there is imminently a big gap behind me!

[KerwinRobertson]

Alex_225 said:

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Wow! I mean it's a poor enough show to think that firstly the car door wasn't shut and secondly that the car seat was able to just fall out. Secondly it's even worse that they didn't even bloody notice.

As a parent of two (5/1) it would horrify me to think they could fall out of the car! Poor little kid must have been terrified.

That looks deliberate. They shut the car door after the seat falls out.

[anonymous-user]

saaby93 said:

If you sharply came to halt for what might seem no apparant reason on a full speed through road, you might get rear ended - it's what the cash for crash scammers were doing.

Sorry, but you're missing the point and illustrating perfectly why so many accidents happen. Everyone should drive so they can stop in time in the event of the vehicle in front having to stop in an emergency. It may not be apparent to you in the car behind why they have stopped, but that is largely irrelevant. One of my pet annoyances when driving in the UK and especially in London is trying to leave a sensible gap usually results in someone else stuffing their vehicle into it. A lot less accidents would happen if people left some space.

None of this, however, applies to the video from which this discussion arose. The DCW had ample time to stop, but was clearly half asleep and then was dumb enough to post his/her idiocy to the Internet for all to see.

As the saying goes 'we all know how stupid the average person is so then remember that half of the people are more stupid than that'!

[jagnet]

cb1965 said:

Everyone should drive so they can stop in time in the event of the vehicle in front having to stop in an emergency.

They should, but many many don't. The driver in front should also be aware that the one behind is too close and drive accordingly.

cb1965 said:

One of my pet annoyances when driving in the UK and especially in London is trying to leave a sensible gap usually results in someone else stuffing their vehicle into it.

Likewise, but on the other hand many areas of the UK would grind to a halt if everyone left an adequate gap due to too many cars on too few roads.

cb1965 said:

The DCW had ample time to stop, but was clearly half asleep and then was dumb enough to post his/her idiocy to the Internet for all to see.

Whilst that's all true, their driving is all too common and even more reason for the lead car not to randomly stop in the middle of the road.

Many drivers are on autopilot, particularly on daily commutes, and it can take a surprising amount of time before the brain clicks that the car in front isn't merely slowing but coming to a sharp stop, that it's time to stop using the brain's energy saving preconceived visual maps and actually make decisions based on the current visual stimuli.

The problem is further compounded by the fact that most drivers simply don't brake hard enough in an emergency, hence the need for manufacturers to install emergency brake assist functions to their cars.

For those reasons I would never dream of doing as the lead car did.

Whilst technically the DCW should have easily avoided that, it's utterly naive of the driver in front to think that they can just randomly swap the existing priority rules and hope that everyone is on the ball behind. I'd also suggest that they never even checked their mirrors first before doing so. I'd have no issues putting the blame 50/50 in that incident.

cb1965 said:

As the saying goes 'we all know how stupid the average person is so then remember that half of the people are more stupid than that'!

I wouldn't be quite so harsh as to suggest stupidity on the part of the following driver. Lack of concentration, yes, possibly momentary distraction. Certainly a situation that many many drivers could fall foul of; I think we've all had those drives home where you can't even remember the drive afterwards and it could've easily happened to us whilst we weren't concentrating.

The lead driver however, that was a conscious decision to randomly give way to a waiting car with no warning to the car behind other than brake lights that could've simply meant that they were slowing slightly for the hazard. I'd be less reluctant to direct the term "stupidity" towards them.

[WCZ]

Penfolds said:

https://youtu.be/s8YRqfdu6sU

jesus!

[Byker28i]

KerwinRobertson said:

Alex_225 said:

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Wow! I mean it's a poor enough show to think that firstly the car door wasn't shut and secondly that the car seat was able to just fall out. Secondly it's even worse that they didn't even bloody notice.

As a parent of two (5/1) it would horrify me to think they could fall out of the car! Poor little kid must have been terrified.

That looks deliberate. They shut the car door after the seat falls out.

That was my thinking too - they don't have a single child/boys only policy still do they?

[FWIW]

jagnet said:

I'd have no issues putting the blame 50/50 in that incident.

That is utterly bizarre!!

[Nano2nd]

FWIW said:

jagnet said:

I'd have no issues putting the blame 50/50 in that incident.

That is utterly bizarre!!

agreed, that's exactly why Jury's have more that one person one them, scary!

[podwin]

The Dangerous Elk said:

1:54....helpful ...NOT, total prick.

Yeah, why would anyone not ease off and let them in.

[anonymous-user]

jagnet said:

I'd have no issues putting the blame 50/50 in that incident.

You've no issue with being completely wrong then?

It's no wonder driving is so poor in the UK if this is the level of understanding of a simple clear cut incident.

[anonymous-user]

podwin said:

The Dangerous Elk said:

1:54....helpful ...NOT, total prick.

Yeah, why would anyone not ease off and let them in.

Because the type of people who post these incidents are looking to be as awkward as possible to add footage to their YT Channels. I think a law should be passed where anyone with a YT channel and a cam be they in a car, on a bike or whatever should have to display a DCW badge clearly on their vehicle so we know they are going to drive or cycle like a tt!

[Russian Troll Bot]

Byker28i said:

KerwinRobertson said:

Alex_225 said:

boobles said:

Not sure if this belongs in here but surely the parents need locking up!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB5b-5JlC8o

Wow! I mean it's a poor enough show to think that firstly the car door wasn't shut and secondly that the car seat was able to just fall out. Secondly it's even worse that they didn't even bloody notice.

As a parent of two (5/1) it would horrify me to think they could fall out of the car! Poor little kid must have been terrified.

That looks deliberate. They shut the car door after the seat falls out.

That was my thinking too - they don't have a single child/boys only policy still do they?

In Minnesota?

[jagnet]

cb1965 said:

You've no issue with being completely wrong then?

It's no wonder driving is so poor in the UK if this is the level of understanding of a simple clear cut incident.

For insurance purposes I'm sure that it'll be clear cut, but I stand by my comments. The lead car would've arrived home without incident if they hadn't momentarily decided to invent their own system of priorities, however well intentioned, and randomly come to a stop on a relatively free flowing road without checking their mirrors before and during.

However right you may be in the eyes of the law and insurance it is, imho, down to each driver to work with every other driver to try and get home in one piece and without incident. You either have to be very inexperienced or desperately over confident in the abilities of others to not consider that stopping randomly in the road significantly increases the likelihood of a rear shunt.

If I'm letting someone out of a side road I'll ease off the throttle well before the junction to let the gap ahead grow so that the waiting car can join without me having to reduce my speed by more than a few mph, let alone come to a complete stop. I would never ever perform a manoeuvre like the lead car in the video did.

Our vision is not well designed for judging the changing speed of objects travelling in the same direction as us. Brake lights don't give any indication as to whether the car ahead is gently slowing or anchoring up. It's no wonder that rear end shunts are so common an occurrence. At least in an emergency situation there's a) good justification for coming to a stop and b) a good chance the car behind can also see the hazard and realise that you're going to be stopping fairly sharply. Playing "after you, Claude" doesn't do either.

[Krikkit]

Can I point out that the traffic in front of the CMAX on the other side of the junction had slowed heavily to give way - the CMAX driver treated it correctly by stopping there imho as they would otherwise have blocked the junction (even if it was likely to be brief).

The camera car was going too quickly and wasn't paying enough attention to read the road ahead.

[anonymous-user]

Yep, but anyway, I've said my piece so let's get back to videos of bad driving.