The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
Laurel Green said:
poing said:
They seem to have a lot more people driving on the wrong side of the road, is it simply the number of tourists?
Seems like a good possibility as I cannot think of any other reason for such.poing said:
Laurel Green said:
They seem to have a lot more people driving on the wrong side of the road, is it simply the number of tourists?Blue Oval84 said:
It sort of is relevant though.
The accident was still ultimately the fault of the DCW, but by understanding that things like this can happen, and not making unexpected moves we can all, as drivers, reduce the likelihood of having a crash.
Let's imagine how these two hypothetical threads play out...
"My phone rang and I didn't want to miss it so I stopped quickly so I could answer it safely and the tt behind hit my car"
Of course the driver behind was at fault for not leaving suitable gap/reacting in time. But I'm sure the poster of the above statement would get a lot of abuse for stopping suddenly and completely unnecessarily.
Alternatively -
"I had a sudden crushing chest pain so I stopped suddenly to try and call an ambulance and the tt behind hit my car"
Driver behind still at fault, but someone posting that should get no flak whatsoever for that one.
Sure but in either the case the DCW would be equally at fault. Not paying attention or leaving a suitable gap is bad driving, and it doesn't become less bad if the driver in front is using a mobile phone.The accident was still ultimately the fault of the DCW, but by understanding that things like this can happen, and not making unexpected moves we can all, as drivers, reduce the likelihood of having a crash.
Let's imagine how these two hypothetical threads play out...
"My phone rang and I didn't want to miss it so I stopped quickly so I could answer it safely and the tt behind hit my car"
Of course the driver behind was at fault for not leaving suitable gap/reacting in time. But I'm sure the poster of the above statement would get a lot of abuse for stopping suddenly and completely unnecessarily.
Alternatively -
"I had a sudden crushing chest pain so I stopped suddenly to try and call an ambulance and the tt behind hit my car"
Driver behind still at fault, but someone posting that should get no flak whatsoever for that one.
saaby93 said:
If you define "misleading" as good, then yes. It's a well picked still that suggests that the CMAX has stopped clear of the junction whilst the cars ahead are stationary waiting to pass the parked vehicles. Unfortunately that's not what's happening at that moment. The cars ahead are both moving forward, the lead car is already pulling out to pass the parked vehicles. The CMAX is still moving forward at that point; it doesn't come to a stop until it's blocking half the junction. That's the trouble with stills, you can invariably find one that fits whatever narrative you want:
jamei303 said:
Sure but in either the case the DCW would be equally at fault. Not paying attention or leaving a suitable gap is bad driving, and it doesn't become less bad if the driver in front is using a mobile phone.
More often than not accidents between vehicles are a coincidence of at least 2 bits of bad driving. DCWs sometimes appear to encourage a scenario in order to 'justify' displays of riteous indignation. I really don't think they appreciate how their own footage could hoist them, in the event of an accident.
Well the good thing about this thread is it's made me decide to be ever more cautious on the road as I really didn't think there could be' people' on the road capable of legally acquiring a driving licence that could attribute blame in the C-Max incident to anyone other than the DCW. It's not even like the DCW was that close, I could have stopped, started again and stopped again in the space he had when the brake lights first lit... you know the ones that tell you the car in front is braking.
As far as I'm concerned the DCW and their ilk are not people I want on the road. He had ample time to stop, but was simply paying no attention to the road whatsoever and then thinks he's been wronged to the point where they post the clip to the Internet. FFS!!!
One day it might not be a C-Max they hit through their complete inattention..... something those so keen to pass the blame seem to conveniently ignore.
If the C-Max had a reverse dashcam and you saw that clip from the back of their car you'd all be blaming the DCW!
As far as I'm concerned the DCW and their ilk are not people I want on the road. He had ample time to stop, but was simply paying no attention to the road whatsoever and then thinks he's been wronged to the point where they post the clip to the Internet. FFS!!!
One day it might not be a C-Max they hit through their complete inattention..... something those so keen to pass the blame seem to conveniently ignore.
If the C-Max had a reverse dashcam and you saw that clip from the back of their car you'd all be blaming the DCW!
janesmith1950 said:
More often than not accidents between vehicles are a coincidence of at least 2 bits of bad driving.
DCWs sometimes appear to encourage a scenario in order to 'justify' displays of riteous indignation. I really don't think they appreciate how their own footage could hoist them, in the event of an accident.
Most of those honking with indignation clips could be replace by a quick flash or wave to let someone out of a turning or into the DCW laneDCWs sometimes appear to encourage a scenario in order to 'justify' displays of riteous indignation. I really don't think they appreciate how their own footage could hoist them, in the event of an accident.
jagnet said:
saaby93 said:
If you define "misleading" as good, then yes. It's a well picked still that suggests that the CMAX has stopped clear of the junction whilst the cars ahead are stationary waiting to pass the parked vehicles. Unfortunately that's not what's happening at that moment. The cars ahead are both moving forward, the lead car is already pulling out to pass the parked vehicles. The CMAX is still moving forward at that point; it doesn't come to a stop until it's blocking half the junction. That's the trouble with stills, you can invariably find one that fits whatever narrative you want:
ds666 said:
FFS - the DCW has 3 ( that's THREE ) seconds from the c-max braking to being hit . Its a shame you keep digging with this because most of the other parts of your post are absolutely correct in that most accidents seen as viewed by DCW could be avoided but the DCW was " in the right " . I could quite happily crash every day on the way to and from work if I wanted to and still be " in the right " i.e it would be their " fault " . I chose not to by driving defensively and trying to anticipate gaps closing etc . However , I may get a dash cam and that will change lol
No one is saying that the DCW is in the right or defending them. No one.How do you even get to the point where you think that's being suggested?
jagnet said:
No one is saying that the DCW is in the right or defending them. No one.
Yes you were, that's where you started with this.jagnet said:
How do you even get to the point where you think that's being suggested?
By reading your posts?Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 23 January 09:26
RogerDodger said:
For fks sake guys. Every time I see this thread updated, instead of speeding interesting clips from dash cams it's you lot arguing the toss over some details. Please , for the love of God, find somewhere else to bucket and let this thread return to what it's supposed to be.
It's gone on for like 10 fking pages or something now . They are just repeating the same boring arguments over and over with the words arranged in a slightly differently order in some futile attempt to get the other side to agree with them. Look: it doesn't matter how many fking times you keep repeating it, you are not going to get the other side to agree with you. They have a view point which is different to yours. Just accept it, grow the fk up instead of endlessly arguing like 5 year olds AND MOVE ON or take this tiresome C-Max argument to a separate thread. Lemming Train said:
RogerDodger said:
For fks sake guys. Every time I see this thread updated, instead of speeding interesting clips from dash cams it's you lot arguing the toss over some details. Please , for the love of God, find somewhere else to bucket and let this thread return to what it's supposed to be.
It's gone on for like 10 fking pages or something now . They are just repeating the same boring arguments over and over with the words arranged in a slightly differently order in some futile attempt to get the other side to agree with them. Look: it doesn't matter how many fking times you keep repeating it, you are not going to get the other side to agree with you. They have a view point which is different to yours. Just accept it, grow the fk up instead of endlessly arguing like 5 year olds AND MOVE ON or take this tiresome C-Max argument to a separate thread. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff