The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)
Discussion
G13NVL said:
Europa1 said:
Mafffew said:
Laurel Green said:
That first clip Edited by G13NVL on Monday 15th July 13:27
saaby93 said:
wack said:
"Where does he expect me to go with that van there" either in front or behind it , the dashcam has given sad wkers a weapon
Though I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
Car speedos generally over estimate so a car could be doing 45mph for an indicated 50mphThough I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
The truck may be trying to drive at 50mph.
Or they may have realised that 55mph is under many enforcement thresholds.
That's a 10mph speed difference for anyone good with sums
Vipers said:
saaby93 said:
wack said:
"Where does he expect me to go with that van there" either in front or behind it , the dashcam has given sad wkers a weapon
Though I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
Car speedos generally over estimate so a car could be doing 45mph for an indicated 50mphThough I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
The truck may be trying to drive at 50mph.
Or they may have realised that 55mph is under many enforcement thresholds.
That's a 10mph speed difference for anyone good with sums
Anyone know why it's 40 there or is it just a good way to generate frustration and increase accident rates?
MikeStroud said:
Auto810graphy said:
Someone sent me this earlier.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRxOvDFwJ9I
Knowing quite a few of the roads he is often in the wrong lane and does seem to have a habit of accelerating to cause near misses.
Yes completely agree. Like the woman half across the road, why not slow down, keep well back, let her know he is no threat.. instead drives right up to her. The risk is it spooks her and she makes a run across the rest of the road when it may not be safe. It looks like he is trying to get dashcam footage so creates an incident when there should not be one for better drivers.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRxOvDFwJ9I
Knowing quite a few of the roads he is often in the wrong lane and does seem to have a habit of accelerating to cause near misses.
M4cruiser said:
That’s an understatement! What a .FWIW said:
M4cruiser said:
That’s an understatement! What a .G13NVL said:
Europa1 said:
Mafffew said:
Laurel Green said:
That first clip Edited by G13NVL on Monday 15th July 13:27
FWIW said:
That’s an understatement! What a .
No problem with the view to the junction, but the overtaken car might have moved over to turn right or pass the parked lorry; if the vehicle towards hadn't slowed it would have been at best a very violent return the nearside just when lot's of other things might have gone wrong. mac96 said:
Absolutely. All those schoolkids around, if something had gone wrong....
Reminds me of a case earlier, where I was near the centreline due to pedestrians (including children) in the road, and an oncoming vehicle wouldn't back off from their overtake of another cyclist. Oh, and I was passing parked cars on his side of the road... I could have reached out and touched his bonnet. Narrow country lanes.Graveworm said:
G13NVL said:
Get this a lot now on the new m6 smart motorway j16-19, signs come on at 50 I set cruise to 50 and seem to flying past all the cars sat in lane 3 and 4 whilst I stay in lane 1 all to myself.
Worryingly from the article about Police prosecution from Dashcams .. Let's hope there are no Dash cam warriors on the M6."However, we know from our research that law-abiding drivers are becoming increasingly fed up with the illegal actions of a minority that get away with tailgating, undertaking, and using handheld mobile phones when driving. "
Edited by Graveworm on Monday 15th July 21:30
Solocle said:
Reminds me of a case earlier, where I was near the centreline due to pedestrians (including children) in the road, and an oncoming vehicle wouldn't back off from their overtake of another cyclist. Oh, and I was passing parked cars on his side of the road... I could have reached out and touched his bonnet. Narrow country lanes.
Narrow country lane, but wide enough for 3 cars a bike and pedestrians ?G13NVL said:
But is wouldn’t be ‘undertaking’ if I’m in lane 1 to begin with and remain there throughout.
He he so its not overtaking if you were already in the offside lane? The CPS talk about overtaking on the left as does the Highway code. Undertaking is more a colloquialism. ask the police said:
Can I overtake on the left (undertake)?
On non Motorways
Rule 163 of the Highway Code states
Only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
ON MOTORWAYS
Rule 268 of the Highway Code states – do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds , traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
OFFENCE
Overtaking on the left is lawful if done in accordance with the above guidance. However, whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway , they may be prosecuted for careless driving.
CPS said:
There are decided cases that provide some guidance as to the driving that courts will regard as careless or inconsiderate and the following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as careless driving:..
overtaking on the inside;
Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.
Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 20th July 14:06
Graveworm said:
Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.
Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
It's been covered beforeCatch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.
Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
Although in the past I might choose to hang back and perform an overtake and back in again, staying in lane isnt an overtake and as you quoted from HC
'In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.'
So for the HC it's probably best not to hang back go out 2 lanes and come back in again as it opens an accusation of weaving
saaby93 said:
t's been covered before
Although in the past I might choose to hang back and perform an overtake and back in again, staying in lane isnt an overtake and as you quoted from HC
'In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.'
So for the HC it's probably best not to hang back go out 2 lanes and come back in again as it opens an accusation of weaving
Which of course ignores what the courts have said and that "These conditions" have to include congestion and vehicles moving at similar speeds. Probably why you didn't quote that bit I occasionally overtake on the nearside as you describe but I know, as when I exceed the speed limit, that I am bang to rights if they decide to take action. Although in the past I might choose to hang back and perform an overtake and back in again, staying in lane isnt an overtake and as you quoted from HC
'In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.'
So for the HC it's probably best not to hang back go out 2 lanes and come back in again as it opens an accusation of weaving
Edited by Graveworm on Tuesday 16th July 10:48
Graveworm said:
G13NVL said:
But is wouldn’t be ‘undertaking’ if I’m in lane 1 to begin with and remain there throughout.
He he so its not overtaking if you were already in the offside lane? The CPS talk about overtaking on the left as does the Highway code. Undertaking is more a colloquialism. ask the police said:
Can I overtake on the left (undertake)?
On non Motorways
Rule 163 of the Highway Code states
Only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
ON MOTORWAYS
Rule 268 of the Highway Code states – do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds , traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.
OFFENCE
Overtaking on the left is lawful if done in accordance with the above guidance. However, whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway , they may be prosecuted for careless driving.
CPS said:
There are decided cases that provide some guidance as to the driving that courts will regard as careless or inconsiderate and the following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as careless driving:..
overtaking on the inside;
Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.
Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
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