The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

The "Sh*t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 4)

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Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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G13NVL said:
Europa1 said:
Mafffew said:
Eek indeed. What do you think exploded?
Guessing the fuel tank which are on the sides of trucks also bet was on phone/ fell asleep.

Edited by G13NVL on Monday 15th July 13:27
Or medical event, like heart attack act, stroke, we shall never know, but scared seeing it exploding.

Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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saaby93 said:
wack said:
"Where does he expect me to go with that van there" either in front or behind it , the dashcam has given sad wkers a weapon

Though I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
Car speedos generally over estimate so a car could be doing 45mph for an indicated 50mph
The truck may be trying to drive at 50mph.
Or they may have realised that 55mph is under many enforcement thresholds.
That's a 10mph speed difference for anyone good with sums
He starts vid going 50, approaches the van and slows to 40 why?, to piss the trucker off. Trucker was too close though.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Vipers said:
saaby93 said:
wack said:
"Where does he expect me to go with that van there" either in front or behind it , the dashcam has given sad wkers a weapon

Though I see tailgating trucks every day in the roadworks on the M6 , 50 limit, the trucks don't want to do 50 so intimidate people by driving 15ft behind them even when they can see there's hundreds of cars and trucks in front of them so they're going nowhere.
Car speedos generally over estimate so a car could be doing 45mph for an indicated 50mph
The truck may be trying to drive at 50mph.
Or they may have realised that 55mph is under many enforcement thresholds.
That's a 10mph speed difference for anyone good with sums
He starts vid going 50, approaches the van and slows to 40 why?, to piss the trucker off. Trucker was too close though.
oh I forgot in all that the limit is 40 smash
Anyone know why it's 40 there or is it just a good way to generate frustration and increase accident rates?

dundarach

5,062 posts

229 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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MikeStroud said:
Auto810graphy said:
Someone sent me this earlier.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hRxOvDFwJ9I

Knowing quite a few of the roads he is often in the wrong lane and does seem to have a habit of accelerating to cause near misses.
Yes completely agree. Like the woman half across the road, why not slow down, keep well back, let her know he is no threat.. instead drives right up to her. The risk is it spooks her and she makes a run across the rest of the road when it may not be safe. It looks like he is trying to get dashcam footage so creates an incident when there should not be one for better drivers.
He drives like a tt, I hope he live streams his own firery death very soon.


M4cruiser

3,662 posts

151 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Volvo RJ53CJV doing a poor overtake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKbA3KZIk0



Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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saaby93 said:
oh I forgot in all that the limit is 40 smash
Anyone know why it's 40 there or is it just a good way to generate frustration and increase accident rates?
Question. Is it 40? Did I miss something.?


Solocle

3,305 posts

85 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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Vipers said:
Question. Is it 40? Did I miss something.?
Changes from 50 to 40 when the driver slows down, than changes to 50 after he starts easing off (then he accelerates back to 50)

FWIW

3,069 posts

98 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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M4cruiser said:
Volvo RJ53CJV doing a poor overtake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKbA3KZIk0
That’s an understatement! What a .

mac96

3,801 posts

144 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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FWIW said:
M4cruiser said:
Volvo RJ53CJV doing a poor overtake:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIKbA3KZIk0
That’s an understatement! What a .
Absolutely. All those schoolkids around, if something had gone wrong...eek.

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

235 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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G13NVL said:
Europa1 said:
Mafffew said:
Eek indeed. What do you think exploded?
Guessing the fuel tank which are on the sides of trucks also bet was on phone/ fell asleep.

Edited by G13NVL on Monday 15th July 13:27
Unlikely the tank, likely ripped the fuel line off the chassis as the truck swerved, modern trucks have huge high pressure fuel pumps, it would spray huge amounts of atomised diesel that would ignite easily

Graveworm

8,500 posts

72 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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FWIW said:
That’s an understatement! What a .
No problem with the view to the junction, but the overtaken car might have moved over to turn right or pass the parked lorry; if the vehicle towards hadn't slowed it would have been at best a very violent return the nearside just when lot's of other things might have gone wrong.

Solocle

3,305 posts

85 months

Monday 15th July 2019
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mac96 said:
Absolutely. All those schoolkids around, if something had gone wrong...eek.
Reminds me of a case earlier, where I was near the centreline due to pedestrians (including children) in the road, and an oncoming vehicle wouldn't back off from their overtake of another cyclist. Oh, and I was passing parked cars on his side of the road... I could have reached out and touched his bonnet. Narrow country lanes.

G13NVL

2,789 posts

85 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Graveworm said:
G13NVL said:
Get this a lot now on the new m6 smart motorway j16-19, signs come on at 50 I set cruise to 50 and seem to flying past all the cars sat in lane 3 and 4 whilst I stay in lane 1 all to myself.
Worryingly from the article about Police prosecution from Dashcams .. Let's hope there are no Dash cam warriors on the M6.
"However, we know from our research that law-abiding drivers are becoming increasingly fed up with the illegal actions of a minority that get away with tailgating, undertaking, and using handheld mobile phones when driving. "

Edited by Graveworm on Monday 15th July 21:30
But is wouldn’t be ‘undertaking’ if I’m in lane 1 to begin with and remain there throughout.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,969 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Solocle said:
Reminds me of a case earlier, where I was near the centreline due to pedestrians (including children) in the road, and an oncoming vehicle wouldn't back off from their overtake of another cyclist. Oh, and I was passing parked cars on his side of the road... I could have reached out and touched his bonnet. Narrow country lanes.
Narrow country lane, but wide enough for 3 cars a bike and pedestrians ?

Graveworm

8,500 posts

72 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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G13NVL said:
But is wouldn’t be ‘undertaking’ if I’m in lane 1 to begin with and remain there throughout.
He he so its not overtaking if you were already in the offside lane? The CPS talk about overtaking on the left as does the Highway code. Undertaking is more a colloquialism.
ask the police said:

Can I overtake on the left (undertake)?
On non Motorways
Rule 163 of the Highway Code states
Only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
ON MOTORWAYS
Rule 268 of the Highway Code states – do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds , traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

OFFENCE
Overtaking on the left is lawful if done in accordance with the above guidance. However, whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway , they may be prosecuted for careless driving.

CPS said:

There are decided cases that provide some guidance as to the driving that courts will regard as careless or inconsiderate and the following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as careless driving:..

overtaking on the inside;

Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.

Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.


Edited by Graveworm on Saturday 20th July 14:06

Vipers

32,900 posts

229 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Solocle said:
Vipers said:
Question. Is it 40? Did I miss something.?
Changes from 50 to 40 when the driver slows down, than changes to 50 after he starts easing off (then he accelerates back to 50)
Tks for that, watched it three times and still missed it. Got it now.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Graveworm said:
Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.

Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
It's been covered before
Although in the past I might choose to hang back and perform an overtake and back in again, staying in lane isnt an overtake and as you quoted from HC
'In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.'
So for the HC it's probably best not to hang back go out 2 lanes and come back in again as it opens an accusation of weaving spin

Graveworm

8,500 posts

72 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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saaby93 said:
t's been covered before
Although in the past I might choose to hang back and perform an overtake and back in again, staying in lane isnt an overtake and as you quoted from HC
'In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.'
So for the HC it's probably best not to hang back go out 2 lanes and come back in again as it opens an accusation of weaving spin
Which of course ignores what the courts have said and that "These conditions" have to include congestion and vehicles moving at similar speeds. Probably why you didn't quote that bit wink I occasionally overtake on the nearside as you describe but I know, as when I exceed the speed limit, that I am bang to rights if they decide to take action.

Edited by Graveworm on Tuesday 16th July 10:48

Solocle

3,305 posts

85 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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pinchmeimdreamin said:
Narrow country lane, but wide enough for 3 cars a bike and pedestrians ?
"another bike" - 2 bikes, a single file line of pedestrians, and a car. But that was fairly tight.

G13NVL

2,789 posts

85 months

Tuesday 16th July 2019
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Graveworm said:
G13NVL said:
But is wouldn’t be ‘undertaking’ if I’m in lane 1 to begin with and remain there throughout.
He he so its not overtaking if you were already in the offside lane? The CPS talk about overtaking on the left as does the Highway code. Undertaking is more a colloquialism.
ask the police said:

Can I overtake on the left (undertake)?
On non Motorways
Rule 163 of the Highway Code states
Only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right, and there is room to do so
stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left
ON MOTORWAYS
Rule 268 of the Highway Code states – do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds , traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake.

OFFENCE
Overtaking on the left is lawful if done in accordance with the above guidance. However, whilst there is no specific offence of overtaking on the left, if a driver undertook another vehicle, other than in the circumstances described above e.g. in the case of someone hogging lane 2 on a motorway , they may be prosecuted for careless driving.

CPS said:

There are decided cases that provide some guidance as to the driving that courts will regard as careless or inconsiderate and the following examples are typical of what we are likely to regard as careless driving:..

overtaking on the inside;

Definition of overtake:
Catch up and pass another vehicle travelling in the same direction.

Whilst many times the police might not bother. If there is a specific complaint with video evidence they would have to look at it.
So on a 3 lane motorway say with no ‘congestion’ I’m travelling in a HGV at 56 in lane 1, catch someone doing 45 in lane 2, I can’t use lane 3 to pass so according to that if I just carried on in lane 1 and passed the lane 2 hog I could be done for careless driving?
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