RE: SEAT Leon Cupra R vs. Honda Civic Type R
Discussion
Done to death I know but ...
I know the press seem to say the Honda soft suspension setting is quite good ... but I struggle to get my head round dealing with 20" rims and silly low profile rubber on Blighty blacktop ?? !!
We're currently running a fairly extreme hatch as a daily on 18's and it certainly doesn't lack grip or turn in precision, ridiculous wheel sizes, IMHO of course !!
I know the press seem to say the Honda soft suspension setting is quite good ... but I struggle to get my head round dealing with 20" rims and silly low profile rubber on Blighty blacktop ?? !!
We're currently running a fairly extreme hatch as a daily on 18's and it certainly doesn't lack grip or turn in precision, ridiculous wheel sizes, IMHO of course !!
MrBarry123 said:
It really does seem like the current Type R is a cut above any of its competitors, dynamically at least.
And having seen a couple now on the road, they don’t look awful. Admittedly, they’re not pretty things but they’re certainly purposeful.
I agree, on the road they do not look as dramatic as in the pics.And having seen a couple now on the road, they don’t look awful. Admittedly, they’re not pretty things but they’re certainly purposeful.
philmots said:
As a Cupra 300 ‘owner’ I’d have the Civic, I think it looks great and it’s clearly a serious bit of kit.
If only I could lease one for £270 month.
They took a similar approach with the FK2, minimal, if any, discounting and hefty deposits, by the standards of their rivals anyway.If only I could lease one for £270 month.
You would have to really want one to stump up what they're asking given what its rivals are available for..... And I do really want one
That really was a dreadful article to read. Utterly verbose and rammed with cliché.
The conclusion though, that the Civic Type R is head and shoulders above the competition, seems to be a bit of a theme. It really sounds as though Honda hit the nail on the head here. Were I shopping for a new hot hatch, the Civic would be the only consideration.
The conclusion though, that the Civic Type R is head and shoulders above the competition, seems to be a bit of a theme. It really sounds as though Honda hit the nail on the head here. Were I shopping for a new hot hatch, the Civic would be the only consideration.
samoht said:
TWPC said:
If only they would do a version with a toned down exterior, a 'Touring' version I suppose...
From pics, I think choosing black paint is the nearest thing, quite a bit more cohesive as it's all one colour then.
Simon Owen said:
Done to death I know but ...
I know the press seem to say the Honda soft suspension setting is quite good ... but I struggle to get my head round dealing with 20" rims and silly low profile rubber on Blighty blacktop ?? !!
We're currently running a fairly extreme hatch as a daily on 18's and it certainly doesn't lack grip or turn in precision, ridiculous wheel sizes, IMHO of course !!
Ride is very good - maybe better on 18s, but for me more than acceptable as is. I know the press seem to say the Honda soft suspension setting is quite good ... but I struggle to get my head round dealing with 20" rims and silly low profile rubber on Blighty blacktop ?? !!
We're currently running a fairly extreme hatch as a daily on 18's and it certainly doesn't lack grip or turn in precision, ridiculous wheel sizes, IMHO of course !!
samoht said:
TWPC said:
If only they would do a version with a toned down exterior, a 'Touring' version I suppose...
From pics, I think choosing black paint is the nearest thing, quite a bit more cohesive as it's all one colour then.s m said:
To the article author: Do you actually test the cars with timing gear, weigh them yourself etc or are the figures from the manufacturer, some magazine etc?
EVO have undertaken comprehensive testing including weightshttp://www.evo.co.uk/supertest/20456/honda-civic-t...
FN2TypeR said:
philmots said:
As a Cupra 300 ‘owner’ I’d have the Civic, I think it looks great and it’s clearly a serious bit of kit.
If only I could lease one for £270 month.
They took a similar approach with the FK2, minimal, if any, discounting and hefty deposits, by the standards of their rivals anyway.If only I could lease one for £270 month.
You would have to really want one to stump up what they're asking given what its rivals are available for..... And I do really want one
Derek Chevalier said:
Ride is very good - maybe better on 18s, but for me more than acceptable as is.
Is this from long term owner perspective? Something I do miss from reviews like these, how is the rear seat and the boot? Much of the allure of any hot hatch is, for me, its practical usability. Since I have a Cupra, would be good to know how the CTR compares there too.
loose cannon said:
It’s the new build copper kitchen design
or the Fast and furious design, personally I’d take neither, one is a total mess oh my eyes,
the other just looks little a standard diesel car with copper crap stuck on it, never ever should copper crap be stuck on a car unless it’s from 1910
I agree with you on the looks of both cars - but not as strongly on the SEAT. I currently quite like the SEAT (particularly the alcantara seats & wheel) but think it will look date very quickly and when I first saw it the copper detailing was nothing I couldn't do with a rattle can or 2 & some masking tape to my FR Leon.or the Fast and furious design, personally I’d take neither, one is a total mess oh my eyes,
the other just looks little a standard diesel car with copper crap stuck on it, never ever should copper crap be stuck on a car unless it’s from 1910
I think SEATs work best when they're really competitive on price, which the Cupra R isn't compared to the Type-R - the normal Cupra 300 is, particularly after the recent price reductions.
I'd save my money & my embarrassment and buy a Golf GTI Performance Pack over either of these - accepting the loss in performance.
I’m a little lost with it all, don’t like the civic
Don’t like the Leon and don’t really like vag stuff as a hole full stop always have had, can’t stand the whole vw love bug surf scene dub malarkey, not sure about the new megane either think I prefer the megane I already have
Tbh I think I’m all hot hatched out after having a run of them,
Don’t like the Leon and don’t really like vag stuff as a hole full stop always have had, can’t stand the whole vw love bug surf scene dub malarkey, not sure about the new megane either think I prefer the megane I already have
Tbh I think I’m all hot hatched out after having a run of them,
Onehp said:
Derek Chevalier said:
Ride is very good - maybe better on 18s, but for me more than acceptable as is.
Is this from long term owner perspective? Something I do miss from reviews like these, how is the rear seat and the boot? Much of the allure of any hot hatch is, for me, its practical usability. Since I have a Cupra, would be good to know how the CTR compares there too.
Agreed on practicality being key for hot hatch (something my old R26.R didn't have!). Boot is pretty substantial as mentioned here
https://www.whatcar.com/honda/civic-type-r/hatchba...
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