RE: Abarth 124 GT: Driven

RE: Abarth 124 GT: Driven

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Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Far, far too expensive at 33k.

R6VED

1,370 posts

140 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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I just can't get on board with the front end looks of these cars, the side isn't much better, whilst the back is actually quite nice.

Get rid of the two tone too, that is just st.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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R6VED said:
I just can't get on board with the front end looks of these cars, the side isn't much better, whilst the back is actually quite nice.

Get rid of the two tone too, that is just st.
You don't need to select the two-tone. I would spec it in black with the red accents.

I think the back end looks a lot nicer than the weird looking rear end of the ND MX-5, and I don't dislike the front end, though I prefer that of the Mazda.

Maldini35

2,913 posts

188 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Having been scathing about these when new, I now find them really quite appealing.
Not at £33k new mind.
One to watch in the classifieds in 5 years time.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

121 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Integroo said:
Far, far too expensive at 33k.
It is a bit spendy but given the price of all performance orientated cars nowadays seem to be high, I wouldn't say it's silly expensive.

There's one (a convertible) that's passed me a few times whilst I've been cycling and you certainly get enough noise for your money - LOUD things!

3yardy3

270 posts

114 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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"Questioned as to why the 1.4-litre MultiJet hasn't at least had the wick on its turbocharger turned up, Fiat execs mumbled something about 'saving that for the facelift'"

hmm, So basically admitting deliberately reducing power or not making the most of the current package so they can later add and charge more money for a newer car in the future...

Worth noting its business so i understand why they do it, its just annoying.. just release a car to its full potential from the start...

sinbaddio

2,375 posts

176 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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£33k is over the top completely.

I tried the standard Abarth 124 last year and it was a lot of fun, and the actual price you can get them for after a brief haggle is much lower.

A quick scan at the classifieds shows 66 plates with sub 10k mileage going for under £20k, which is quite tempting.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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sinbaddio said:
£33k is over the top completely.

I tried the standard Abarth 124 last year and it was a lot of fun, and the actual price you can get them for after a brief haggle is much lower.

A quick scan at the classifieds shows 66 plates with sub 10k mileage going for under £20k, which is quite tempting.
There has been some very strong lease and finance deals on these (and the Fiat version) recently.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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MrBarry123 said:
It is a bit spendy but given the price of all performance orientated cars nowadays seem to be high, I wouldn't say it's silly expensive.

There's one (a convertible) that's passed me a few times whilst I've been cycling and you certainly get enough noise for your money - LOUD things!
33k can get you into a 300+ bhp hot hatch, I think 33k for a 170bhp roadster is just too much. A top specced MX-5 is 6-7k less.

TaylotS2K

1,964 posts

207 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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It's certainly not a looker.

MrBarry123

6,028 posts

121 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Integroo said:
33k can get you into a 300+ bhp hot hatch, I think 33k for a 170bhp roadster is just too much. A top specced MX-5 is 6-7k less.
I appreciate that's an option if all-out performance is your primary focus however these have a certain specialness which hot hatches don't have.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Has anybody "on the inside" revealed anything about the business case for this car? Are the maths doing anything for Fiat?

I'm not surprised that dealers are open to negotiation. As another reader mentioned, I'd go used -- for an even better deal.

Definitely not a let's-compare-the-horsepower sort of buy. This car is about the experience, the sense of occasion.


GTEYE

2,096 posts

210 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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snotrag said:
irocfan said:
Johnny5hoods said:
If this one's better rust proofed than the MX5, I imagine many customers will catch on to that and start buying this instead. PCPers might not care, nor of course company car drivers. But anyone buying a keeper with their own money will feel the benefit long term.
FIAT, rustproofing rofl

in all seriousness I do like the idea - but it does seem a little expensive.
Its a Mazda, built by Mazda, in the Hiroshima Mazda factory. Just with the fiat engine and badges attached. The rust proofing will be exactly the same as the Mazda.
Indeed, and it will likely be terrible. In this respect, Mazda have followed a little too closely the format for traditional Italian sports cars.

Integroo

11,574 posts

85 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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MrBarry123 said:
I appreciate that's an option if all-out performance is your primary focus however these have a certain specialness which hot hatches don't have.
I am not sure it is that much more special than a top specced Mazda MX-5 however, which comes in 6-8k cheaper, and is widely considered the better driver's car.

dinkel

26,951 posts

258 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Paper Lawyer said:
Squadrone Rosso said:
So did late 80s / early 90s Alfa Spider.
And the GT version of the S2000...
The S2K: isn't that a better option?

number1nesta

57 posts

156 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Why does a 1.4 litre engine need four exhausts (what i mean is a single exhaust until the back box, then four tail pipes solely for show)?

Just don't get the need to have so many pipes on cars, this one would look better with either a 2.5-3" single tailpipe or a two incher out of each side; either of which would suggest a suitable amount of sporting intention. But four pipes... really?

chrispmartha

15,499 posts

129 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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number1nesta said:
Why does a 1.4 litre engine need four exhausts (what i mean is a single exhaust until the back box, then four tail pipes solely for show)?

Just don't get the need to have so many pipes on cars, this one would look better with either a 2.5-3" single tailpipe or a two incher out of each side; either of which would suggest a suitable amount of sporting intention. But four pipes... really?
Why would it be about need, surely that's not what Abarths are about


If its the same as the 595 exhaust, they aren't for show, have you heard an Abarth with one fitted?


Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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MrBarry123 said:
Integroo said:
33k can get you into a 300+ bhp hot hatch, I think 33k for a 170bhp roadster is just too much. A top specced MX-5 is 6-7k less.
I appreciate that's an option if all-out performance is your primary focus however these have a certain specialness which hot hatches don't have.
And you can take the roof off this so your 300 bhp hot hatch falls at the first hurdle if you're looking for a 2 seater open sports car.

Not sure why anyone would compare these things to a hot hatch at all, they're completely different cars for different markets.

sandys

207 posts

246 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Shame they didn't delete the soft top and fit a half cage, make it more sporting, more rigid, lighter and give it more storage on rear shelf to make it a good GT.

Article said:
Despite using a composite roof that weighs a paltry 16kg - and looks pretty fabulous, it must be said - this GT version is actually heavier than the standard Abarth 124, which sullies the message somewhat. It's the first car we can think of that comes with two roofs as standard.
Maffs not my strong point but if wheels loose 4kg per corner and roof add 16kg, net effect is no extra weight?

Like my MX5 where I have soft top and optional hardtop, I'd not bother removing the roof for the most part, just like to think of it as a lightweight 2 seater coupe.

124GT Looks good and something l might consider in the future but really hoping a road version of the 124R-GT drops with the 4C engine, that would be more like it, I've been driving that 1.4 Multi air for 7 yrs I want something more, a proper upgrade in performance. On the handling side this would be, but would offer little more over my current MX5.

Re rust, my Italian cars are far superior to my rusty Mazda. Shame Mazda are building the Abarth would be nice to have a rust proof Italian version of an MX5, I'll at least know to get it looked at early on I if do succumb and purchase.


Edited by sandys on Thursday 12th April 16:37

Sion111R

313 posts

92 months

Thursday 12th April 2018
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Had a proper look at one of these in grey. Far better looking in the metal.