Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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rich12

3,465 posts

155 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Does ad blocker completely kill any revenue?
I would've thought that there's a hell of a lot of people using it or similar?

If it does kill revenue, is there a stat to show how many normal views vs ad block views?

ashleyman

6,987 posts

100 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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The amount of videos that now contain 4 or 5 ads is getting ridiculous.

I used to give them the first ad at the start but now I'm being interrupted through the videos. Not even like the ads start in logical places. I now use an ad blocker and block everything.

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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RobDown said:
egor110 said:
I don't think this tge gives a fk if people like him or not he just chucks out slap dash vlogs with seemingly little planning and hoards of people watch them .

If you watch the video then slag it off it doesn't matter because you've played you've watched the video which is the most valuable thing , who cares if some random person from the internet doesn't like you as long as you keep watching the vids.
This does amuse me. I have to confess I’m in a WhatsApp Group which includes TGE and he seems quite a nice chilled guy. And I’m sure he’s laughing that he’s getting views from people who are only watching so that they can come on here to moan smile
Exactly , he's a total piss taker .

Yet watch his vlogs about his gym company and it's like a totally different person .

Why bother putting effort into car vlogs when you can put out any old st and people still watch and subscribe .

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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egor110 said:
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Why bother putting effort into car vlogs when you can put out any old st and people still watch and subscribe .
Absolutely. It’s somewhat disheartening when I spend a couple of days making a review video and get 10k views, and then lots of YTers churn out content in 20mins and get 50+k views. However...

Tom has admitted that there’s no point in him spending time making amazing cinematic stuff, when what works for him is what he creates - he can churn out a video messing about with Archie in his garage and get the big view numbers which is quick and easy. It’s his style and that’s what his audience likes. Same with Shmee, he does the occasional big production vid like the Mille Miglia and they don’t get anywhere near the views of his usual, hand held stuff.

YT is a fickle bh, but you just have to go with the flow.

egor110

16,879 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th April 2019
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Beefmeister said:
egor110 said:
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Why bother putting effort into car vlogs when you can put out any old st and people still watch and subscribe .
Absolutely. It’s somewhat disheartening when I spend a couple of days making a review video and get 10k views, and then lots of YTers churn out content in 20mins and get 50+k views. However...

Tom has admitted that there’s no point in him spending time making amazing cinematic stuff, when what works for him is what he creates - he can churn out a video messing about with Archie in his garage and get the big view numbers which is quick and easy. It’s his style and that’s what his audience likes. Same with Shmee, he does the occasional big production vid like the Mille Miglia and they don’t get anywhere near the views of his usual, hand held stuff.

YT is a fickle bh, but you just have to go with the flow.
Exactly , i responded to your depression thread - you need to make the content you want to make and if people like it awesome if they don't so be it .

If you start changing your content to try and win more viewers then it's a recipe for disaster , i'm guessing your older than a lot of the other youtubers and in the fickle world of vlogging the younger people seem to get the viewers ( doug de mero obviously bucks that trend )

Shmee

7,565 posts

214 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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egor110 said:
If you start changing your content to try and win more viewers then it's a recipe for disaster , i'm guessing your older than a lot of the other youtubers and in the fickle world of vlogging the younger people seem to get the viewers ( doug de mero obviously bucks that trend )
Amusingly Doug is 8 months younger than me!

But it is true that you shouldn't change from what your audience have grown supporting. If for example I dropped into doing swish glam edits tomorrow I guarantee it would be the start of a downhill spiral on my channel.

Gandahar

9,600 posts

129 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Shmee said:
egor110 said:
If you start changing your content to try and win more viewers then it's a recipe for disaster , i'm guessing your older than a lot of the other youtubers and in the fickle world of vlogging the younger people seem to get the viewers ( doug de mero obviously bucks that trend )
Amusingly Doug is 8 months younger than me!

But it is true that you shouldn't change from what your audience have grown supporting. If for example I dropped into doing swish glam edits tomorrow I guarantee it would be the start of a downhill spiral on my channel.
I think I still have some sperm in storage older than Doug to be honest.

No doubt they have some frosty quirks and features nowadays. Ice tenticles for a a start.

"THIS, is my spermatozoa"


To be honest all the vloggers are a bunch of wkers who just have to buy the latest car they cannot drive properly in competition with all the others who have not bought them.

The only exception is Harry Metcalfe who buys what he wants. Mind you he did stump up for Evo magazine to get it going.

Top bloke.

The rest I wouldn't piss on if they were covered in flaming napalm.....

PS You at least Schmee I would dab with a small damp flannel as you seem quarter decent... wink




Edited by Gandahar on Monday 15th April 00:53

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Gandahar said:
I think I still have some sperm in storage older than Doug to be honest.

No doubt they have some frosty quirks and features nowadays. Ice tenticles for a a start.

"THIS, is my spermatozoa"


To be honest all the vloggers are a bunch of wkers who just have to buy the latest car they cannot drive properly in competition with all the others who have not bought them.

The only exception is Harry Metcalfe who buys what he wants. Mind you he did stump up for Evo magazine to get it going.

Top bloke.

The rest I wouldn't piss on if they were covered in flaming napalm.....

PS You at least Schmee I would dab with a small damp flannel as you seem quarter decent... wink
Wow, what a delightful chap.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Escy said:
This is my point. I saw the thumbnail for that video. I've got no interest in a car (or anything for that matter) covered in crystals or diamonds so i've chosen to not watch it. You'd have thought loser before you watched it as it's clearly not your thing and it's on TGE's channel. Why bother?
I clicked on the link because someone posted it above. I was curious. If I didn't watch it, I'd have been unable to form an opinion. I watched it, I gave my opinion and lo, social media was born.

e46m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Just watched TGE's 996 collection. Lovely car and spec. Have been looking for a C2 myself so may be a bit of bias in there. Proof that you don't need mega bucks and a finance package to own a proper car. Shrewd choice to I reckon, as values are creeping up. (if that matters)

Gio G

2,946 posts

210 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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e46m3Mark said:
Just watched TGE's 996 collection. Lovely car and spec. Have been looking for a C2 myself so may be a bit of bias in there. Proof that you don't need mega bucks and a finance package to own a proper car. Shrewd choice to I reckon, as values are creeping up. (if that matters)
Do you think this car will help generate more views? Surely a good thing to open up peoples eyes to something different rather than latest super car.. I really like this 996 model and like yourself think it may be a good investment..

G

testdrive

2,908 posts

196 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Is this not more likely to be a publicity exercise for 4 star rather than a personal investment, probably find he will run it for 6 months for them? How many of us are now having a quick peak at their stock?

Edited by testdrive on Monday 15th April 12:41

Chr1sch

2,585 posts

194 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Was watching JWW's latest video, he talks about having put 'all of his money' into a big shed in London, sounds like he is heavily invested in NVM not just promoting it.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

104 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Chr1sch said:
Was watching JWW's latest video, he talks about having put 'all of his money' into a big shed in London, sounds like he is heavily invested in NVM not just promoting it.
But not a listed director?

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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testdrive said:
Is this not more likely to be a publicity exercise for 4 star rather than a personal investment, probably find he will run it for 6 months for them? How many of us are now having a quick peak at their stock?
No more than my usual daily browsing hehe So much nice stock there...

e46m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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He says he intends keeping it for years to come.

RobDown

3,803 posts

129 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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My sense is that Tom has got to the point many of us have. Saturated with all the new supercar launches, why buy a 720S when you know it’s going to be superseded in 6 months?

That leads you to think - better to buy something that’s sporty but with a bit of USP, something that will last the test of time rather than just being the latest, fastest thing. I’d put the Porsche in that category.

It’s why I’m never selling my GT8. It’s not the fastest car in the world. But it makes me grin just thinking of driving it biggrin


S11Steve

6,374 posts

185 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Another car he has "bought", or at least stated as "my car", but I suspect like many previous uploads, we'll see very little of it again. And it does seem that it's another veiled sponsored video.

As before, if that business model works for him, then so be it.
I don't think I would feel comfortable or honest with myself if I was churning out that.

fridaypassion

8,581 posts

229 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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Chr1sch said:
Was watching JWW's latest video, he talks about having put 'all of his money' into a big shed in London, sounds like he is heavily invested in NVM not just promoting it.
As I pointed out some pages back. It's a promotional gig that's not declared. If you are old money like JWW you would be a director of any company you had investment in surely?

The authorities will start clamping down on all this sort of thing it's heavily regulated for mainstream TV you just couldn't get away with it.

DSC OFF

191 posts

62 months

Monday 15th April 2019
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fridaypassion said:
As I pointed out some pages back. It's a promotional gig that's not declared. If you are old money like JWW you would be a director of any company you had investment in surely?

The authorities will start clamping down on all this sort of thing it's heavily regulated for mainstream TV you just couldn't get away with it.
Seems to have a similar thing going on with Road Rat magazine too
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