Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)

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TheAngryDog

9,461 posts

157 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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JaredVannett said:
diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837
The owner is that odd guy who turned up at Jay Kay's house and wondered why he didn't want to come and play out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQ4wzgk1HM

fido

14,269 posts

203 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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playalistic said:


Re LLF and the exploding diff - what possesses someone to put this on a number plate? I fear for humanity.
.. an Audi driver with self-awareness.

playalistic

2,189 posts

112 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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TheAngryDog said:
JaredVannett said:
diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837
The owner is that odd guy who turned up at Jay Kay's house and wondered why he didn't want to come and play out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQ4wzgk1HM
Actually speechless.

slowcars1

218 posts

29 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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johnwilliams77 said:
slowcars1 said:
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you had you would have seen Joe was entering each bend at speeds even your grandmother would be comfortable with. He was only accelerating out of corners and then letting the car engine brake up to the next corner.
Do you find his driving acceptable then given the road type/volume of traffic?
I wouldn't say it was acceptable, I also wouldn't say it was unacceptable either. It was somewhere in between. It seems he was only really accelerating where he had good visibility and driving much slower where visibility was harder. If there were such a definition as speeding WITH due care and attention this would be it.

p1stonhead

20,625 posts

115 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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playalistic said:
TheAngryDog said:
JaredVannett said:
diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837
The owner is that odd guy who turned up at Jay Kay's house and wondered why he didn't want to come and play out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQ4wzgk1HM
Actually speechless.
Right?! Who does that?!

Meridius

1,263 posts

100 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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slowcars1 said:
I wouldn't say it was acceptable, I also wouldn't say it was unacceptable either. It was somewhere in between. It seems he was only really accelerating where he had good visibility and driving much slower where visibility was harder. If there were such a definition as speeding WITH due care and attention this would be it.
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.

p1stonhead

20,625 posts

115 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Meridius said:
slowcars1 said:
I wouldn't say it was acceptable, I also wouldn't say it was unacceptable either. It was somewhere in between. It seems he was only really accelerating where he had good visibility and driving much slower where visibility was harder. If there were such a definition as speeding WITH due care and attention this would be it.
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
...in someone else’s (maybe even Audi themselves) car!

CooperS

3,861 posts

167 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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slowcars1 said:
p1stonhead said:
Guesses on the speed at the start of this video?

These guys are fking idiots.

https://youtu.be/1LDtUKwLtjg
Man like Rick. Man like Tom. Well sick.

I am dumbfounded that Joe has been fined and given points and yet Ricky (LLF) still has a license quite honestly.
It beggers belief that he in a world where YouTube censor and the demonetise anything political or sweary they allow his blatent dangerous behaviour on there

kiethton

11,179 posts

128 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this

p1stonhead

20,625 posts

115 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
You seem to care a lot about defending a random bloke on a driving video who is clearly taking the piss on a public road...

WarrenB

641 posts

66 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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kiethton said:
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
Thing is, Joe may be able to safely drive a car at speed on the public road. Plenty of other people can't. Saying it's OK for Joe would be saying it's OK for the idiots who can't drive safely at speed.

selym

7,381 posts

119 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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janesmith1950 said:
slowcars1 said:
You clearly didn't watch the video because if you had you would have seen Joe was entering each bend at speeds even your grandmother would be comfortable with. He was only accelerating out of corners and then letting the car engine brake up to the next corner.
It doesn't matter. We're all bound by the same laws. If the silly sod wants to publish a video of himself on the internet breaking the law in order to make a profit from it, he (or we) ought not to complain if he gets busted.

No, it wasn't crime of the century, no kittens were harmed, but it is a road where the Police focus enforcement due to a poor accident rate and publishing the video was a daft thing to do.

No doubt Steve Callaghan will be dusting off his Dirty Harry blazer and asking other YouTubers; "This is the most powerful Google Maps Pro in the world. It could blow your driving licence clean off. In all the excitement I forgot how many right clicks I did, was it 5 or was it 6? Do you feel lucky, punk?"
This is true - why should the law take into account car and driver ability? There needs to be a line in the sand, however irrelevant that is. For the record, i haven't seen the video so am not commenting from that perspective.

By the way janesmith1950, you are much funnier away from the football threads....

kiethton

11,179 posts

128 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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p1stonhead said:
kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
You seem to care a lot about defending a random bloke on a driving video who is clearly taking the piss on a public road...
He was far from taking the piss - try looking up one of the of-quoted piss take channels (DMO/LLF/SS)

I'm not Joe, just a bloke that lieks to head out into the countryside and drive (safely but with regard for speed appropriate with the conditions, not a random, reduced number on a stick) that's hugely frustrated at the direction this is going and the faux social/media outrage this story is generating (including on here) and the future direction of travel.

InitialDave

5,933 posts

67 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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playalistic said:


Re LLF and the exploding diff - what possesses someone to put this on a number plate? I fear for humanity.
I probably would. It's quite funny and it doesn't need to be messed about with in terms of spacing to "work".

Crank up the Denis Leary!

Dave Hedgehog

11,899 posts

152 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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p1stonhead said:
playalistic said:
TheAngryDog said:
JaredVannett said:
diff goes boom on RS6...

and guess who did it hehe ...skip to 14:00...

https://youtu.be/ia9NrhS_nOE?t=837
The owner is that odd guy who turned up at Jay Kay's house and wondered why he didn't want to come and play out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hQ4wzgk1HM
Actually speechless.
Right?! Who does that?!
how clueless do you have to be not to be able to launch an RS6 in the first place???

selym

7,381 posts

119 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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Dave Hedgehog said:
how clueless do you have to be not to be able to launch an RS6 in the first place???
Oh, I'm sure I'd do something so stupid...once.

J4CKO

28,612 posts

148 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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kiethton said:
p1stonhead said:
kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
You seem to care a lot about defending a random bloke on a driving video who is clearly taking the piss on a public road...
He was far from taking the piss - try looking up one of the of-quoted piss take channels (DMO/LLF/SS)

I'm not Joe, just a bloke that lieks to head out into the countryside and drive (safely but with regard for speed appropriate with the conditions, not a random, reduced number on a stick) that's hugely frustrated at the direction this is going and the faux social/media outrage this story is generating (including on here) and the future direction of travel.
The R8 vid didnt look that dramatic but the M240i one had my heart in my mouth, he nearly binned that, racing driver or not.

I have a fairly high threshold for car speed fkwittery compared to most of the public, but that just seemed mental, Ricky is used to trolling round folk with modified cars and getting on it, he was absolutely papping himself and wanting it to stop.

Its funny how racing drivers are regarded as better drivers, but I wonder what the insurance risk as a job, if you put that down as your occupation is compared to an office worker ? over the years they do seem to, as a breed find lots of opportunities for managing to kill themselves. Will obviously have better car control than the average driver, better reactions (possibly) but does the title cause them to write more cheques their skill can actually cash.


S11Steve

5,626 posts

132 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
A few of us live near there and regularly use the road. At the right time of day or evening, it is a great place to make progress, but I've seen so many errant sheep and cyclists along there, hidden entrances, off camber bends, uneven "yumps" from subsidence, and there is very little room for error - yes there are a few bits where you can plant it, but there are better roads nearby for giving it some welly.

If that was filmed on the roads around Hope or Edale, only a few miles in the other direction - it would have made for much more cinematic viewing, and less likely to have caused this outcome. Hindsight is always 20:20 though....

It's rare to cross the pass and not see either a camera van or another vehicle having a close call, it's closed fairly regularly for accident clean-ups and it is no suprise that the police have used Joe as an example.

slowcars1

218 posts

29 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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J4CKO said:
kiethton said:
p1stonhead said:
kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
You seem to care a lot about defending a random bloke on a driving video who is clearly taking the piss on a public road...
He was far from taking the piss - try looking up one of the of-quoted piss take channels (DMO/LLF/SS)

I'm not Joe, just a bloke that lieks to head out into the countryside and drive (safely but with regard for speed appropriate with the conditions, not a random, reduced number on a stick) that's hugely frustrated at the direction this is going and the faux social/media outrage this story is generating (including on here) and the future direction of travel.
The R8 vid didnt look that dramatic but the M240i one had my heart in my mouth, he nearly binned that, racing driver or not.

I have a fairly high threshold for car speed fkwittery compared to most of the public, but that just seemed mental, Ricky is used to trolling round folk with modified cars and getting on it, he was absolutely papping himself and wanting it to stop.

Its funny how racing drivers are regarded as better drivers, but I wonder what the insurance risk as a job, if you put that down as your occupation is compared to an office worker ? over the years they do seem to, as a breed find lots of opportunities for managing to kill themselves. Will obviously have better car control than the average driver, better reactions (possibly) but does the title cause them to write more cheques their skill can actually cash.
100%. That must have been 100+mph no question at the start of the video on that small B road. There is a moment where the back unsettles and the driver gets back on the power to stablize the car where you really get a sense for the speed they were doing. You have to be going very fast to get the car unsettled in the way they did.

p1stonhead

20,625 posts

115 months

Wednesday 23rd October
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slowcars1 said:
J4CKO said:
kiethton said:
p1stonhead said:
kiethton said:
Meridius said:
Damp conditions, tight bendy road, solid no overtaking lines there for a reason and busy with plenty of oncoming traffic. Joe Achilles is generally one of the more sensible and professional youtubers but that was an unacceptable time, place and conditions to be driving like that.
Damp conditions - Hardly soaking wet, driving was well within the capabilities of the car, tyres and driver with speed appropriate for the slight dampness IMO. A little bit of damp doesn't automatically reducing the safe speed for a corner to an arbitrary level - should be a dynamic assessment of conditions etc

Tight bendy road - irrelevant and half the fun - whats the point in straight line point and squirt?

Overtaking lines - He didn't cross them, so what if they're there - makes it safer in a way(see below)

Oncoming traffic - a risk but was moving slowly behind traffic and wouldn't be crossing due to aforementioned solid lines, speed wasn't excessive given this
You seem to care a lot about defending a random bloke on a driving video who is clearly taking the piss on a public road...
He was far from taking the piss - try looking up one of the of-quoted piss take channels (DMO/LLF/SS)

I'm not Joe, just a bloke that lieks to head out into the countryside and drive (safely but with regard for speed appropriate with the conditions, not a random, reduced number on a stick) that's hugely frustrated at the direction this is going and the faux social/media outrage this story is generating (including on here) and the future direction of travel.
The R8 vid didnt look that dramatic but the M240i one had my heart in my mouth, he nearly binned that, racing driver or not.

I have a fairly high threshold for car speed fkwittery compared to most of the public, but that just seemed mental, Ricky is used to trolling round folk with modified cars and getting on it, he was absolutely papping himself and wanting it to stop.

Its funny how racing drivers are regarded as better drivers, but I wonder what the insurance risk as a job, if you put that down as your occupation is compared to an office worker ? over the years they do seem to, as a breed find lots of opportunities for managing to kill themselves. Will obviously have better car control than the average driver, better reactions (possibly) but does the title cause them to write more cheques their skill can actually cash.
100%. That must have been 100+mph no question at the start of the video on that small B road. There is a moment where the back unsettles and the driver gets back on the power to stablize the car where you really get a sense for the speed they were doing. You have to be going very fast to get the car unsettled in the way they did.
Way above 100mph I reckon. The m240i is flipping fast as stock even. Wouldn’t be surprised if that was 120
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