Are these Vloggers just a scam? SOL or Shmee etc? (Vol 2)
Discussion
waremark said:
The stuff the Youtubers comment on is more relevant to more buyers of enthusiast cars than how easy a car is to drift round Anglesey. As it happens I don't like very loud exhausts and I like to keep my cars the way they come from the factory but if I am interested in a car I can watch Harris and Catchpole for their views on the handling and Youtubers to see all the details.
Why should Youtubers spend time on stuff which would not improve the performance of their businesses? You do understand that this is their business, don't you?
Why not just watch Henry Catchpole then? Why should Youtubers spend time on stuff which would not improve the performance of their businesses? You do understand that this is their business, don't you?
The 'influencers' primary job is selling a lifestyle fantasy to 12 year old boys, not informing adults of anything meaningful about a car. I refer you to the McLaren 720S which they were universally underwhelmed by. That was the final straw for me. They got the car so wrong. They were devoid of any ability to appreciate, analyse or articulate anything about the car beyond that it was 'insane' or 'puts a smile on my face' which applies to every car they drive. Bunch of chancers that will disappear along with the opportunity to flip supercars for a profit.
twinturban said:
Why not just watch Henry Catchpole then?
The 'influencers' primary job is selling a lifestyle fantasy to 12 year old boys, not informing adults of anything meaningful about a car. I refer you to the McLaren 720S which they were universally underwhelmed by. That was the final straw for me. They got the car so wrong. They were devoid of any ability to appreciate, analyse or articulate anything about the car beyond that it was 'insane' or 'puts a smile on my face' which applies to every car they drive. Bunch of chancers that will disappear along with the opportunity to flip supercars for a profit.
Because he's shmee's dad so he is trying to support the mainstream tubers on here.The 'influencers' primary job is selling a lifestyle fantasy to 12 year old boys, not informing adults of anything meaningful about a car. I refer you to the McLaren 720S which they were universally underwhelmed by. That was the final straw for me. They got the car so wrong. They were devoid of any ability to appreciate, analyse or articulate anything about the car beyond that it was 'insane' or 'puts a smile on my face' which applies to every car they drive. Bunch of chancers that will disappear along with the opportunity to flip supercars for a profit.
johnwilliams77 said:
twinturban said:
Why not just watch Henry Catchpole then?
The 'influencers' primary job is selling a lifestyle fantasy to 12 year old boys, not informing adults of anything meaningful about a car. I refer you to the McLaren 720S which they were universally underwhelmed by. That was the final straw for me. They got the car so wrong. They were devoid of any ability to appreciate, analyse or articulate anything about the car beyond that it was 'insane' or 'puts a smile on my face' which applies to every car they drive. Bunch of chancers that will disappear along with the opportunity to flip supercars for a profit.
Spot. On. The cream rises. 10 Catchpoles out of 10.The 'influencers' primary job is selling a lifestyle fantasy to 12 year old boys, not informing adults of anything meaningful about a car. I refer you to the McLaren 720S which they were universally underwhelmed by. That was the final straw for me. They got the car so wrong. They were devoid of any ability to appreciate, analyse or articulate anything about the car beyond that it was 'insane' or 'puts a smile on my face' which applies to every car they drive. Bunch of chancers that will disappear along with the opportunity to flip supercars for a profit.
WarrenB said:
fridaypassion said:
Sam's big error with DTW as I said right back at the beginning is that he should have included his Mrs in it. I understand that she probably doesn't want to be on the channel (she's got her own I seem to recall?) But having some banter and someone to bounce off plus making the series feel like a journey it would have had a totally different feel. There's no sense of the content been any kind of larger project its like totally separate content that could have been filmed by hopping on a plane and then coming home. Also it would have been very hard to do as YT does seem to be a treadmill for them but it would have been better to release the content in bingeable chunks so like the Australia series comes out as season 1. Might have made it more cohesive.
I'm not so sure if his Mrs being included would have made much difference, but then again Sam always did seem at his best when he did have someone to bounce off. Unfortunately we've also seen what the YouTube comment section can be like when there's a female on screen...I think the biggest issue is that the 911 doesn't really feature that much, or at least it doesn't feel like it's a big part of the journey. With HubNut and Shmee, it's the cars they're driving (the BX [for now] and the GT) that really link the journey together.
Having said that, the people who backed the trip on Kickstarter could be the ones getting more of the actual roadtrip content. But if that's the case I think it may have turn a lot of the 'free' viewers watching on YouTube.
I think I thought it would be a "long way round" type trip, and switched off when i realised it wasn't.
Edited by Glade on Thursday 14th November 21:09
Glade said:
WarrenB said:
fridaypassion said:
Sam's big error with DTW as I said right back at the beginning is that he should have included his Mrs in it. I understand that she probably doesn't want to be on the channel (she's got her own I seem to recall?) But having some banter and someone to bounce off plus making the series feel like a journey it would have had a totally different feel. There's no sense of the content been any kind of larger project its like totally separate content that could have been filmed by hopping on a plane and then coming home. Also it would have been very hard to do as YT does seem to be a treadmill for them but it would have been better to release the content in bingeable chunks so like the Australia series comes out as season 1. Might have made it more cohesive.
I'm not so sure if his Mrs being included would have made much difference, but then again Sam always did seem at his best when he did have someone to bounce off. Unfortunately we've also seen what the YouTube comment section can be like when there's a female on screen...I think the biggest issue is that the 911 doesn't really feature that much, or at least it doesn't feel like it's a big part of the journey. With HubNut and Shmee, it's the cars they're driving (the BX [for now] and the GT) that really link the journey together.
Having said that, the people who backed the trip on Kickstarter could be the ones getting more of the actual roadtrip content. But if that's the case I think it may have turn a lot of the 'free' viewers watching on YouTube.
I think I thought it would be a "long way round" type trip, and switched off when i realised it wasn't.
Edited by Glade on Thursday 14th November 21:09
VerySideways said:
jamesth32 said:
Anyone on here watch Hoovies Garage? love his content!
Yup. Most of it is watchable.I think his family owns a bunch of Taco Bells or something so thats how he can afford to burn cash but he doesnt act pompous - hes very watchable.
Pommy said:
...I think his family owns a bunch of Taco Bells or something ...
It's some random burger chain. Young Hoovie actually works for them supervising/managing/training the opening of new stores, one of his videos shows him on the local news plugging the store.Also, I suspect land in Kansas is dirt cheap (pun) so you can build a massive house and oversize garage for what you'd pay for an apartment in a big city.
(See also, Freddie Tavarish in the Floridian swamps)
S11Steve said:
Paul SOL now looking at a 720s as they are under 170k...
His enthusiasm is infectious, but i can't help feeling he is setting himself up for another fall - he even talks at length about the issues around these cars.
He needs to use his head for his decisions more than his heart.
Also hinted that the Murci will go to make way for it. Was hoping there'd be at least one proper roadtrip in it and not just a few runs through a tunnel! His enthusiasm is infectious, but i can't help feeling he is setting himself up for another fall - he even talks at length about the issues around these cars.
He needs to use his head for his decisions more than his heart.
VerySideways said:
jamesth32 said:
Anyone on here watch Hoovies Garage? love his content!
Yup. Most of it is watchable.
t) cars, very easy going demeanor, very self effacing and buys some catastrophic st heap money pits and tells it like it is.Less sure about his theme music, seems to be nicked from a 1985 Allied Dunbar training/promotional film.
washingitagain said:
g3org3y said:
Currently enjoying 'salvage rebuilds uk' and the work he's doing on a Range Rover Sport with a broken engine.
Me too! He seems a genuine bloke who knows what he's doing. His Ferrari build is interesting too. He is a good example of how a channel can gain followers quickly despite (to his own admission) him not being skilled at video production.Interesting to see someone giving a real insider's view on an area of the motor industry that doesn't get much coverage and is sometimes perceived as a bit shady.
Videos are light on detail sometimes, but there are no plummy accents, no Knightsbridge locations, no "paid partnerships" and no daft paintjobs or wraps
spreadsheet monkey said:
I watched some of his videos this morning. Really broad range of cars, from Ferraris and Range Rover Sports all the way down to dirt cheap salvage Fiestas and Fiat 500s.
Interesting to see someone giving a real insider's view on an area of the motor industry that doesn't get much coverage and is sometimes perceived as a bit shady.
Videos are light on detail sometimes, but there are no plummy accents, no Knightsbridge locations, no "paid partnerships" and no daft paintjobs or wraps
I've watched quite a lot of his stuff. He is truly genuine, is very new to the technology and therefore not always very polished videos but I find his content very watchable. He did a little charity auction recently too.Interesting to see someone giving a real insider's view on an area of the motor industry that doesn't get much coverage and is sometimes perceived as a bit shady.
Videos are light on detail sometimes, but there are no plummy accents, no Knightsbridge locations, no "paid partnerships" and no daft paintjobs or wraps
jamesth32 said:
Anyone on here watch Hoovies Garage? love his content!
He's mentioned before that this is his second attempt at YouTube and I think he's put quite a lot of effort into getting it right this time.The naff 80s style title screens and music were a smart move because his equipment and film skills were poor in the early days so they matched one another.
He seems to have a knack for getting good views from unlikely sources. His video on the Hyundai Equus has 4m views - okay, he was comparing it to a Rolls-Royce. The first video on his Prius has 2.3m views and the one on a 90s Camry has 1.2m views. There were no gimmicks in those videos.
In some ways, his channel reminds me of Harry’s Garage. I can have no interest in a car featured on the channel, but I still watch it because I enjoy listening to him talk with genuine knowledge and enthusiasm about it.
Edited by AJB1971 on Friday 15th November 17:06
KillerHERTZ said:
I enjoy some of Sam's content STG, however asking for money to fund his travels around the world while he has a 360 sitting in the garage & a property in a fancy part of London is a bit of a cheek IMO
I must agree, but he's found a way to get investment via these go fund me platforms so good on him. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff