DIY mechanics take care....neighbour squished under car!
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https://www.facebook.com/carthrottle/videos/211172...
Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
InitialDave said:
https://www.facebook.com/carthrottle/videos/211172...
Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
Jesus, that was close.Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
InitialDave said:
https://www.facebook.com/carthrottle/videos/211172...
Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
How was he/she/it going to get the spare on?! There wasn't even enough room to drag the punctured wheel out without bringing the car with it!Apologies for Facebook link, but a good example of someone getting lucky with this kind of thing.
triggerhappy21 said:
Are we seriously discussing supporting a lifted vehicle with a towing eye!?
FYI, I spend a lot of my days designing industiral lifting equipment. Whether the structure of the vehicle is capable of taking the load is obviously debatable. I can tell you without question though, that eyebolts designed to BS4278, or DIN580, are not designed to take any load beyond 45° from parallel to the shank.
I've seen some very heavy lumps of metal end up on the deck where people have ingnored regulations, so I'd be very careful preaching information that could seriously endanger someone.
You can just fFYI, I spend a lot of my days designing industiral lifting equipment. Whether the structure of the vehicle is capable of taking the load is obviously debatable. I can tell you without question though, that eyebolts designed to BS4278, or DIN580, are not designed to take any load beyond 45° from parallel to the shank.
I've seen some very heavy lumps of metal end up on the deck where people have ingnored regulations, so I'd be very careful preaching information that could seriously endanger someone.
k off with all your facts and expertise 
Clawdius said:
All these post confirm that no one should be allowed to maintain a vehicle in the street/at home other than routine checks.
Most of the people described here don’t have the intelligence to know that a car is rather heavy and if not secured properly will fall on you and more than likely kill you.
These people are trying to repair brakes etc and don’t even know that the vehicle is dangerously lifted.
Nobody should be able to work on a vehicle without the proper qualifications and licence.
Unfortunately the motor trade itself is lacking in this area and the sooner something is done along the licensing lines the better.
What utter rubbish.Most of the people described here don’t have the intelligence to know that a car is rather heavy and if not secured properly will fall on you and more than likely kill you.
These people are trying to repair brakes etc and don’t even know that the vehicle is dangerously lifted.
Nobody should be able to work on a vehicle without the proper qualifications and licence.
Unfortunately the motor trade itself is lacking in this area and the sooner something is done along the licensing lines the better.
J4CKO said:
I do not consider myself an expert but have built engines an maintained my own cars for 30 years, and I do that due to my overall disappointment with the motor trade in the main.
I am in my mid 40s and all my brake pads are the right way round, its not hard, not sure how anyone could get them the wrong way round.
I am in my mid 40s and all my brake pads are the right way round, its not hard, not sure how anyone could get them the wrong way round.
Same here. If you are going to ban everyone from working on their own car on the grounds that some people are useless, where do you stop? Everyone must hire a gardener to mow their lawn in case they chop their foot off? Hire a professional to cut your steak up since the sharp knives are too dangerous for some?
Ban all non-trades people from even owning tools to remove temptation?
Mr2Mike said:
Ban all non-trades people from even owning tools to remove temptation?
If it saves just one life....I absolutely detest this culture of saving people from themselves based on a few idiots having accidents, and somehow believing that a couple of certificates and a chunky annual fee can turn ordinary people into masters of their craft, immune from any such issues.
As mentioned by someone earlier, there's really no exceptional talent required to unbolt one part and reverse the procedure to replace.
I replaced the discs and pads on the OH's car last week. I managed to survive the experience and so has she. With no time pressure I could thoroughly clean up the calipers, hub faces, grease sliding pins, check rubber seals etc. I'd happily claim that I did a better job than the majority of professional mechanics would have done faced with the need to get the car off the ramps asap ready for the next one.
jagnet said:
If it saves just one life....I absolutely detest this culture of saving people from themselves based on a few idiots having accidents, and somehow believing that a couple of certificates and a chunky annual fee can turn ordinary people into masters of their craft, immune from any such issues.
As mentioned by someone earlier, there's really no exceptional talent required to unbolt one part and reverse the procedure to replace.
I replaced the discs and pads on the OH's car last week. I managed to survive the experience and so has she. With no time pressure I could thoroughly clean up the calipers, hub faces, grease sliding pins, check rubber seals etc. I'd happily claim that I did a better job than the majority of professional mechanics would have done faced with the need to get the car off the ramps asap ready for the next one.
I put it down to wearing my Saint Edd China pendant throughout.
jagnet said:
Mr2Mike said:
Ban all non-trades people from even owning tools to remove temptation?
If it saves just one life....I absolutely detest this culture of saving people from themselves based on a few idiots having accidents, and somehow believing that a couple of certificates and a chunky annual fee can turn ordinary people into masters of their craft, immune from any such issues.
From an employers POV, if an untrained and unqualified staff member does something stupid and kills a customer, then it's the companies fault, but if that person has a meaningless certificate, the company can turn around and say "not our fault, look he was qualified".
Almost everything you encounter in the workplace these days has at least an element of blame dodging.
In the case of a homes and DIY, it's the insurance companies that want to see work signed off by a qualified scapegoat.
In the case of vehicles, nobody gives a damn, because the insurance companies are so busy screwing each other over that they don't care for chasing garages/mechanics on the rare occasion that faulty workmanship causes an accident. Instead a fault usually just causes a roadside breakdown, which gives a reason for most insurance companies to sell roadside assistance in with their policies.
lyonspride said:
It's not about that at all, it's about culpability, it's about having someone to blame.
From an employers POV, if an untrained and unqualified staff member does something stupid and kills a customer, then it's the companies fault, but if that person has a meaningless certificate, the company can turn around and say "not our fault, look he was qualified".
Almost everything you encounter in the workplace these days has at least an element of blame dodging.
In the case of a homes and DIY, it's the insurance companies that want to see work signed off by a qualified scapegoat.
In the case of vehicles, nobody gives a damn, because the insurance companies are so busy screwing each other over that they don't care for chasing garages/mechanics on the rare occasion that faulty workmanship causes an accident. Instead a fault usually just causes a roadside breakdown, which gives a reason for most insurance companies to sell roadside assistance in with their policies.
Ah, the blame culture. Surely if I work on my car and an accident happens because I have been negligent then I am to blame and in your scenario cannot claim on my insurance although anyone injured by my actions can.From an employers POV, if an untrained and unqualified staff member does something stupid and kills a customer, then it's the companies fault, but if that person has a meaningless certificate, the company can turn around and say "not our fault, look he was qualified".
Almost everything you encounter in the workplace these days has at least an element of blame dodging.
In the case of a homes and DIY, it's the insurance companies that want to see work signed off by a qualified scapegoat.
In the case of vehicles, nobody gives a damn, because the insurance companies are so busy screwing each other over that they don't care for chasing garages/mechanics on the rare occasion that faulty workmanship causes an accident. Instead a fault usually just causes a roadside breakdown, which gives a reason for most insurance companies to sell roadside assistance in with their policies.
If the insurance co are not happy with that then they can put a clause in the policy that the car can only be maintained by an approved garage. We the public can then vote with our feet. No law required.
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