RE: 1200kg of downforce for Brabham BT62

[skinny]

Max_Torque said:

Does anyone actually care?


For £1M unless you already literally have one of every car ever produced why would you want this car? it brings nothing new to the table, isn't going to be very nice to drive on the road (assuming it is road legal at all) and almost certainly will become effectively worthless as soon as you have bought it?

For the same £1M you could have your choice of real race cars, both modern and historic, or a raft of any number of REALLY nice road cars instead?

Completely disagree

If you can comfortably spend £1m on a toy car then you've probably got a load of others too. It's not a case of why have this when you can have that. You'd just have both.

700 bhp and 1200 kg downforce - ok it's not new but it's pretty rare! How many other cars exist with performance like this? And no it's definitely not going to be nice to drive on the road. That's entirely not what it's for.

As for being worthless, it sounds pretty similar in concept to the Aston Martin Vulcan. They are hardly bargain basement at the moment.

I for one am glad this is being made

[Gemaeden]

Repco!

[Sandpit Steve]

skinny said:

Completely disagree

If you can comfortably spend £1m on a toy car then you've probably got a load of others too. It's not a case of why have this when you can have that. You'd just have both.

700 bhp and 1200 kg downforce - ok it's not new but it's pretty rare! How many other cars exist with performance like this? And no it's definitely not going to be nice to drive on the road. That's entirely not what it's for.

As for being worthless, it sounds pretty similar in concept to the Aston Martin Vulcan. They are hardly bargain basement at the moment.

I for one am glad this is being made

The world is a better place for having bonkers cars like this in it - and the Red Bull Aston, and the Mercedes F1-based car, and the Senna. Even if most of us are never going to be able to even think about affording one!

[FourWheelDrift]

Gemaeden said:

Repco!

It's possible for the historical aspect that they have taken the Holden V8 which can come in 5.0 and 5.6 lt flavours and reworked it. The 5.0 V8 in the Supercars can develop 645bhp.

[Krikkit]

FourWheelDrift said:

Gemaeden said:

Repco!

It's possible for the historical aspect that they have taken the Holden V8 which can come in 5.0 and 5.6 lt flavours and reworked it. The 5.0 V8 in the Supercars can develop 645bhp.

Could well be that - 645hp and limited to 7500RPM and 10:1 compression, reworked slightly for this use with fruitier fuel than the E85?

[Gecko1978]

Nanook said:

Gecko1978 said:

how about 2 hyabusa engines linked is there a kit that could take them to 5.4ltr...i am thinking not but they would rev high enough for big numbers.

5.4L would be more than twice the standard swept volume for a standard Hayabusa.

Your right of course I think they are 1400cc bikes so a 2.8lrr v8 which I think can be had as a 3.2 but 5.4 is going to require 16 cylinders so not possible

edit to add I realise 4 x 1.4 is not 5.4 but its close but as its not a V / W 16 this a null an void point.

Do BMW do an engine which could be stroked to 5.4lts

Edited by Gecko1978 on Friday 20th April 17:52

[Olivera]

Judd V8 or similar? Capacity seems a bit high but power is very much doable.

[kambites]

Gecko1978 said:

edit to add I realise 4 x 1.4 is not 5.4 but its close but as its not a V / W 16 this a null an void point.

I think the current 'bush is a 1.34 so four of them would be damned nearly 5.4.

However as you say this is not a 16-pot so unlikely to be bike-based.

[Vitorio]

Krikkit said:

FourWheelDrift said:

Gemaeden said:

Repco!

It's possible for the historical aspect that they have taken the Holden V8 which can come in 5.0 and 5.6 lt flavours and reworked it. The 5.0 V8 in the Supercars can develop 645bhp.

Could well be that - 645hp and limited to 7500RPM and 10:1 compression, reworked slightly for this use with fruitier fuel than the E85?

The problem with that is that it is a race engine already, tweaking it up a bit more will yield a car with a service interval measured in 100s of miles, and is pretty much impossible to pop down to the shops in, because at anything below 60 mph itll be horrible to drive.

[borat52]

Makes an Ultima look like an absolute bargain.

[roland82]

It looks okay, we need to wait for the full reveal though.

I know its dated but I've always wanted to be the first person to post this.

[unsprung]

roland82 said:

It looks okay, we need to wait for the full reveal though.

I know its dated but I've always wanted to be the first person to post this.

very amusing -- and I wish that I had seen it ages ago

The section on pricing is my pet hate. And spot-on in terms of satire. Why, in a nation so resplendent in motoring, is there a conspicuous contempt for the everyman?

[2ndclasscitizen]

FourWheelDrift said:

Gemaeden said:

Repco!

It's possible for the historical aspect that they have taken the Holden V8 which can come in 5.0 and 5.6 lt flavours and reworked it. The 5.0 V8 in the Supercars can develop 645bhp.

The V8 used by Holden V8 Supercars isn't the old Holden V8, it's a GM Racing engine modified by local engine builders (Walkinshaw, KRE etc). The Holden V8 has been out of production since 1999, and was banned/dropped from racing in the mid 90s.

[B1GRLM]

Photos from the London launch with David and Sam Brabham, along with F1cars.

Click the link for images.

https://flickr.com/photos/43904757@N00/sets/721576...

[SlimJim16v]

MagicalTrevor said:

PH Article said:

claiming a whopping 1200kg of clever air resistance from what is clearly an aggressive aero package

Really!? Do you not understand the difference between air resistance (drag) and downforce?

Yep, PH gets their mum to write technical articles.