RE: Lamborghini Urus: Driven

RE: Lamborghini Urus: Driven

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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.

shoestring7

6,138 posts

246 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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aeropilot said:
Err......<cough>



RR was at the forefront of producing what we now call luxury SUV's.
That's not a Rolls Royce design though, is it? In the days when RR supplied only the rolling chassis buyers could take it to a coach builder of their choice and have any body they wanted fitted, like a recovery vehicle or an armoured car. But it wasn't built by RR, that's like blaming Porsche for one of those Mansory abominations.

SS7

Quickmoose

4,494 posts

123 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.
It's almost as if eventually all marques will make all the vehicles in all the sectors, they'll just be priced according tot heir perceived status...

SUV Dacia...all the way to SUV Rolls
Dacia supercar...all the way to Lambo supercar
or whatever...
character and any idea of 'uniqueness' has buggered off to be replaced by brand snobbery and profit.
c'est la vie....

fred bloggs

1,308 posts

200 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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oh dear pistonheads. Sadly your title is all wrong. Because lambo did do a 4 x4 before

. Its called LM002.

You only have to google lambo 4x4

tsk.


Anyhow. Keep milking the idiots who want to buy these. keep charging the idiots £400 pet tyre. £4000 for a clutch.
The more ways to separate idiots from their money the better.

Edited by fred bloggs on Monday 23 April 16:08

Algarve

2,102 posts

81 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Oh look, "sad day" from yet another person who won't ever get their wallet out in a lambo showroom.

Has there been any actual Lambo owners saying they dont want this car released? I don't recall seeing any.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.
Not sure about the diesel, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if in the next handful of years there was a Macan-sized Lambo SUV that was petrol/electric hybrid. Perhaps even sooner as a precursor to testing that technology for the other Lambo models.(not that it will be their own tech - that will come from shared VAG research...but you get where I'm coming from)

People were just as vocal when Porsche released the Cayenne. Demand for the sporscars suggests the brand didn't suffer in the slightest.I have a feeling that the existence of the Urus will make the square root of fk all difference to peoples' desire for the Lambo sporcars.

I personally think that Ferrari tarnished their desirability for me many moons ago when they started putting the badge and name on every piece of tat on the face of the planet, but business is business...and I'd still rip off someone's arm for a Pista, so there you go. You don't have to like everything a company does in order to be a fan.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Funnily enough if i owned a Lambo I would probably buy a Urus as well.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

156 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Algarve said:
Oh look, "sad day" from yet another person who won't ever get their wallet out in a lambo showroom.

Has there been any actual Lambo owners saying they dont want this car released? I don't recall seeing any.
^ This

Why the hate for a car that those who actually spend real £ with the brand actually want to see?


hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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1974foggy said:
I'm sure it will sell, but mainly to those with lots of money but near zero taste / hired out for weddings etc.
It is bad enough when a hired supercar is crashed into a house, imagine the damage a multi tonne vehicle like this will do once the 'yoofs' crash one! eek

Schermerhorn

4,342 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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The sales projections for the UK and presumably Europe will be very small compared to the rest of the world.

California
Abu Dhabi
Dubai
Qatar
Kuwait
China


Those markets are more lucrative than Europe is.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Quickmoose said:
Thesprucegoose said:
It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.
It's almost as if eventually all marques will make all the vehicles in all the sectors, they'll just be priced according tot heir perceived status...

SUV Dacia...all the way to SUV Rolls
Dacia supercar...all the way to Lambo supercar
or whatever...
character and any idea of 'uniqueness' has buggered off to be replaced by brand snobbery and profit.
c'est la vie....
I disagree; character and uniqueness exist BECAUSE so many manufacturers build their interpretation of a car segment, not despite it. How bland would SUVs be if only one company built them?
vive la différence...

DonkeyApple

55,281 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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thecook101 said:
How bland would SUVs be if only one company built them?
I’m sure we can all think back to last Tuesday when it was Range Rover. biggrin

hyphen

26,262 posts

90 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Schermerhorn said:
The sales projections for the UK and presumably Europe will be very small compared to the rest of the world.

California
Abu Dhabi
Dubai
Qatar
Kuwait
China


Those markets are more lucrative than Europe is.
Yes, but the owners who live in 4 of those countries will be flying theirs to London for half the year!

the_hood

771 posts

194 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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fred bloggs said:
oh dear pistonheads. Sadly your title is all wrong. Because lambo did do a 4 x4 before

. Its called LM002.

You only have to google lambo 4x4

tsk.


Edited by fred bloggs on Monday 23 April 16:08
The LM002 wasn't an SUV.

DonkeyApple

55,281 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Surely it was? Sports Utility Vehicle. It was sold to retail consumers purely for the purpose of getting rid of excess petrol and having a proper hoot while doing so. I’m not sure you’d think of it is as a 4x4 like Range Rovers or Jeeps etc of the same era?

V8 GMS

727 posts

215 months

Monday 23rd April 2018
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Hints of Rover Vitesse?

suffolk009

5,399 posts

165 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.
VAG and Diesel. Not going to happen. Ever.

Porsche have now dropped the black stuff completely.

dvshannow

1,580 posts

136 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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DonkeyApple said:
hyphen said:
Sshh now.

'Secure the future and bankroll what we love' is the desperate, and well trotted out line that petrolhead use to defend the brand they cherish producing that tarnishes it. Let them stay in denial of the brand being a few Geppetto's with spanners in an outdoor shed struggling to make ends meet :hehe;
It’s just such a shame that being part of one of the largest companies on the planet they couldn’t have built an actual Lamborghini. A V12, monocoque, road focussed SUV that moved the whole performance SUV niche a massive step forward and was something unique and very special. frown
Yes a v12 qnd carbon mpnocoque is exactly what all the mums want for the school run...thats where you will see most of them round these parts

And why would vw do that they bought lambo to upsell the standard platform with a fancy sticker

What people sjoukd rejoicenis not that this is the car that saves lamvo but the reason theybwill male cars like the performante - to maintain that brand.

Jacob B

10 posts

143 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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hyphen said:
Yes, but the owners who live in 4 of those countries will be flying theirs to London for half the year!
They will be flying them to London because the car will be completely useless in their home desert environment. They will continue to use their Landcruisers and G63/G550 4x4^2 back home as they work offroad.

DonkeyApple

55,281 posts

169 months

Tuesday 24th April 2018
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suffolk009 said:
Thesprucegoose said:
It's the Porsche model, get the suckers to buy the suvs,. I wouldn't be surprised a model below the Uranus, maybe even a diesel engine. People buy brands nowadays not actual cars.
VAG and Diesel. Not going to happen. Ever.

Porsche have now dropped the black stuff completely.
Ah, well, now, I think PH was duped by some classic VW marketing lies to grab headlines. All those big headlines that said Porsche was dropping diesel weren’t quite true. What they meant was that they were dropping the current lump, waiting a small period of time and then going back to business with a different VW Group Diesel engine. But announcing that they were updating their Diesel engine just doesn’t sound as headline grabbing as announcing ‘the end of diesel’.

http://www.evo.co.uk/porsche/cayenne/19916/new-201...

I believe they will be shoving in the Audi diesel that they currently shove into the Panamaera. At least that engine delivers performance that is appropriate for the Porsche brand. The previous crappy little diesel created a vehicle that was an utter offence to all concepts of Porsche history and brand and was just done purely to we the brand out to poor, dumb people and flog them finance.

But, VW were always a bit concerned about the ubiquity they had created with that bottom end, non performance diesel and that it had stuck a Porsche on every street and was risking removing the brand’s premium image and now they’ve killed it off. I’d like to think that this would mean they wouldn’t make a diesel Lamborghini but I think we all know that if VW thought there was some cash in it and that they could get away with it then they would. I would would wager they’ve already had conversations.