Have you ever been a victim of road rage while driving?
Discussion
Bennet said:
It's really weird how letting someone pass you when they are driving aggressively is now being categorised along with taking no action whilst someone is being stabbed.
Context. You need to learn to read in context. You will find you will do better in exams, business and generally in all walks of Life. 
You will avoid making silly assumptions if you.
My response was specific to those who do not act when they see an overtly aggressive action or are themselves victim to it. Any violent aggression, not just the subject matter of this Thread. Ok?
Edited by Coolbanana on Wednesday 25th April 07:39
Leptons said:
Reading this type of thread always has me thinking the average height of a PHer is 6’2” yet little old 5’10” me never feels Dwarfed when attending Sunday services.
Funny that...
Haha. I'm genuinely 6'3" but definitely not well built. More normal build with a dad gut. I think if someone showed aggression to me I'd get out of my car.Funny that...
and run away crying
Kuji said:
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hstewie said:
hstewie said: Google Kenneth Noye.
Someone always rolls this name out on these threads, as if something so unusual that itvmade headline news over 20 years ago, is in fact very common practice.Is it as common as we are being led to believe, or statistically the likelihood actually the opposite?
Does anyone on here actually know someone who was stabbed due to a road rage incident?
/serious question.
Harji said:
courty said:
Sometimes road rage has no provocation whatsoever...this fella didn't live to tell the tale...travelling at 70ish in lane three of the M4 he overtook somebody doing 50ish in lane two and paid for it with his life.
His "mistake" was that he tried to outrun the abuser instead of slowing down..?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43716912
Sad reading, but that Police officers work to find the culprit was outstanding.His "mistake" was that he tried to outrun the abuser instead of slowing down..?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-43716912
fido said:
...but do you think they might have checked the Mini driver's history to start off with (21 convictions across 35 offences) and then smelt a rat?
You still need actual evidence if you're going to get the case past a jury. Can't just point to him and say "But he's a wrong 'un."...I have had a few minor incidents from many years ago but nothing of any note.These days I just let her them all get on with it,I find it amusing watching people rushing around we all need to relax more.
The best one I can recall is from around 1991/2 and involved a neighbour of ours at the time called Ian.Ian was in construction and about 35 at the time he would sometimes play football with us teenagers in the street and kick us all over and was pretty aggressive generally.
One summers afternoon he was driving his in fashion white golf gti alone down a dual carriageway and got into one with two lads in their twenties and gave them the coffee beans shake ,as they went further on the traffic had stopped in both lanes completely for an accident so Ian was in lane one and the lads in lane two windows go down and the driver shouts over 'you're not so fuc@ing mouthy now are you?' he then jumps out and walks over onto the hard shoulder to confront Ian who is out and waiting.
The lad was in his face and without saying a word Ian butted him right on the nose he dropped down and Ian put the boot in to him,at this point his mate had been stood in between the cars and the now large cue behind them looking on in horror, so his friend starts running back down the middle of the cueing cars with Ian in hot pursuit sprinting down the dual carriageway.
Shortly after police arrived and arrested all three,in the end he wasn't charged as witnesses backed up the other driver instigating things.It made the local paper at the time and was probably awful to see but also a little bit funny as well.Ian is about 5 ft10" and stocky, it's the ones who don't say anything you need to watch.
The best one I can recall is from around 1991/2 and involved a neighbour of ours at the time called Ian.Ian was in construction and about 35 at the time he would sometimes play football with us teenagers in the street and kick us all over and was pretty aggressive generally.
One summers afternoon he was driving his in fashion white golf gti alone down a dual carriageway and got into one with two lads in their twenties and gave them the coffee beans shake ,as they went further on the traffic had stopped in both lanes completely for an accident so Ian was in lane one and the lads in lane two windows go down and the driver shouts over 'you're not so fuc@ing mouthy now are you?' he then jumps out and walks over onto the hard shoulder to confront Ian who is out and waiting.
The lad was in his face and without saying a word Ian butted him right on the nose he dropped down and Ian put the boot in to him,at this point his mate had been stood in between the cars and the now large cue behind them looking on in horror, so his friend starts running back down the middle of the cueing cars with Ian in hot pursuit sprinting down the dual carriageway.
Shortly after police arrived and arrested all three,in the end he wasn't charged as witnesses backed up the other driver instigating things.It made the local paper at the time and was probably awful to see but also a little bit funny as well.Ian is about 5 ft10" and stocky, it's the ones who don't say anything you need to watch.
TooMany2cvs said:
You still need actual evidence if you're going to get the case past a jury. Can't just point to him and say "But he's a wrong 'un."...
I know I know .. but it seems the story was written backwards like a crime drama .. whereas in reality you would check the driver's history first and that, as you put it, would alert you to a 'wrong 'un' and then pursue evidence. Anyway, it was a good read.Faz50 said:
I got stuck at a busy junction a while back, several vehicles at a standstill along with plenty of pedestrians just stood about. I realised they were all watching a car that had been blocked in by another that was parked on the wrong side of the road and was driven by a women who was just sitting at the wheel.
Her partner, was out of the car and was leaning into the open window of the blocked car punching and strangling the driver. Window glass over the road.
I got out and managed to stop him.
Sometimes staying in your car won’t help you
I've seen this a few times in my years of driving. Clearly not the norm but it does happen. Her partner, was out of the car and was leaning into the open window of the blocked car punching and strangling the driver. Window glass over the road.
I got out and managed to stop him.
Sometimes staying in your car won’t help you
That is why I refer the people who "wave at the irate idiot" "blow them a kiss" etc. to this sort of scenario. Yes you are not ranting and raving like they are but you are antagonising the situation and with the wrong idiot, you live to regret it.
Just leave them to get on with it and concentrate on your own driving. Keeps your life simple.
RW
TooMany2cvs said:
fido said:
...but do you think they might have checked the Mini driver's history to start off with (21 convictions across 35 offences) and then smelt a rat?
You still need actual evidence if you're going to get the case past a jury. Can't just point to him and say "But he's a wrong 'un."...However police still need to adhere to procedure. Most acquittals are due to the police not following the correct procedure, so they have to act as if the suspects priors don't matter.
TooMany2cvs said:
J4CKO said:
Douglas Quaid said:
How do you ‘loose’ a job?
By being a pedantic tit ? 
HTP99 said:
Bennyjames28 said:
People in general need to chill out
Definately.I was in Thailand in October, the roads are proper mental; people pulling out infront of others, people getting cut up, dodgy overtakes, driving up your arse, pushing in, beeping of horns etc and yet no one gets even remotely stressed over it, the Thais are just so chilled.
However it's all done on horns - Toot I'm here, Toot I'm over taking, toot toot I'm still coming (usually driver being overtaken backs off here to make it easier) followed by further toots to say thank you when done.
It's a bit weird but it works for them - until you see the accidents, but thats karma -gods will.
Coolbanana said:
Bennet said:
It's really weird how letting someone pass you when they are driving aggressively is now being categorised along with taking no action whilst someone is being stabbed.
Context. You need to learn to read in context. You will find you will do better in exams, business and generally in all walks of Life. You will avoid making silly assumptions if you.
My response was specific to those who do not act when they see an overtly aggressive action or are themselves victim to it. Any violent aggression, not just the subject matter of this Thread. Ok?
Edited by Coolbanana on Wednesday 25th April 07:39
Not long after passing my test I was loving my new found freedom to get out on the road and no longer have to face living off lifts from mum and dad to get to places, living as we did in a place with only one bus a week. A friend was having a house party, I offered to drive a few mates to it. We didn't quite know where it was exactly, but had the directions provided and a mate who reckoned he knew where it was.
We took a wrong turn down a road which quickly turned out was just a farm track, getting worse in quality and down to just single lane. No mention of features that were meant to be on the road where mate lived, so I was looking for somewhere to turn around. A car approaches, its an old Range Rover, from the other direction and I pull across to let him by. He stops next to us and starts ranting and raving about us trespassing on his property, get off his land all that stuff.. I do my best to apologise but not helped by being a fresh faced 17 year old idiot in a crap old car with a voice that had barely broken, and this was also before I'd put on any real weight, couldn't grow a proper beard etc, so I sort of looked like Shaggy from Scooby Doo.
I reverse to turn around and head back to the main road, and this guy is all over my bumper, headlights on full beam which of course are then directly at my eye level in my crappy old Polo weighed down by 5 teenagers. I did my best to think he was just the typical "angry farmer" and hoped that soon we would arrive at the right place. And yet even when we got back on the main road, he continued to follow us inches away from my bumper. Not knowing what to really do, I just thought the best thing to do was pull over and let him pass. But no, that didn't work, because as soon as I pulled over, he slammed his brakes on and pulled in front of me, and jumped out carrying an enormous set of bolt cutters or similar, 2-3ft long, and was about to take a full on swing at my window/windscreen when fortunately, someone else jumped out of his car and tackled him to the ground, I just decided to reverse and get out of the sitatuation whilst he was on the ground.
Still probably the nearest I have ever come to crapping my pants in terror at anything, it was a completely unfamiliar situation to be in and I did not know how to react. I reckon I made the safest choice really. All for the sake of having the temerity to have made an innocent mistake of taking a wrong turning
We took a wrong turn down a road which quickly turned out was just a farm track, getting worse in quality and down to just single lane. No mention of features that were meant to be on the road where mate lived, so I was looking for somewhere to turn around. A car approaches, its an old Range Rover, from the other direction and I pull across to let him by. He stops next to us and starts ranting and raving about us trespassing on his property, get off his land all that stuff.. I do my best to apologise but not helped by being a fresh faced 17 year old idiot in a crap old car with a voice that had barely broken, and this was also before I'd put on any real weight, couldn't grow a proper beard etc, so I sort of looked like Shaggy from Scooby Doo.
I reverse to turn around and head back to the main road, and this guy is all over my bumper, headlights on full beam which of course are then directly at my eye level in my crappy old Polo weighed down by 5 teenagers. I did my best to think he was just the typical "angry farmer" and hoped that soon we would arrive at the right place. And yet even when we got back on the main road, he continued to follow us inches away from my bumper. Not knowing what to really do, I just thought the best thing to do was pull over and let him pass. But no, that didn't work, because as soon as I pulled over, he slammed his brakes on and pulled in front of me, and jumped out carrying an enormous set of bolt cutters or similar, 2-3ft long, and was about to take a full on swing at my window/windscreen when fortunately, someone else jumped out of his car and tackled him to the ground, I just decided to reverse and get out of the sitatuation whilst he was on the ground.
Still probably the nearest I have ever come to crapping my pants in terror at anything, it was a completely unfamiliar situation to be in and I did not know how to react. I reckon I made the safest choice really. All for the sake of having the temerity to have made an innocent mistake of taking a wrong turning
HTP99 said:
Bennyjames28 said:
People in general need to chill out
Definately.I was in Thailand in October, the roads are proper mental; people pulling out infront of others, people getting cut up, dodgy overtakes, driving up your arse, pushing in, beeping of horns etc and yet no one gets even remotely stressed over it, the Thais are just so chilled.
You can rest assured that they're all fuming on the inside, so when a Thai blows up it's usually in a spectacular and violent fashion. The act of aggressive driving is the result of aggression and aggressive attitudes.
captain_cynic said:
No Thai gets outwardly stressed by it... That is the Thai culture, to lose your temper is to lose face in a pretty bad way. So for the sake of appearances, you have to let people be utter arses to your face, as long as they don't break any of the social norms (I.E. point at your feet, tap your head or insult the king), losing your cool means the conflict is your fault.
You can rest assured that they're all fuming on the inside, so when a Thai blows up it's usually in a spectacular and violent fashion. The act of aggressive driving is the result of aggression and aggressive attitudes.
Theres still plenty of crime in Thailand so they cant take it very seriouslyYou can rest assured that they're all fuming on the inside, so when a Thai blows up it's usually in a spectacular and violent fashion. The act of aggressive driving is the result of aggression and aggressive attitudes.
EazyDuz said:
Theres still plenty of crime in Thailand so they cant take it very seriously
Thats an odd thing that westerners don't get about Thais, saving face is of the utmost importance to them, even if someone is robbing them blind, starting a conflict is strictly verboten. Yes, there is a lot of crime, including a lot of violent crime... I did say when a Thai blows up, they do it in a spectacular and violent fashion, it often ends up with someone dead (which is casus belli face-wise to start a conflict with the murderer, so a lot of tit-for-tat goes on).
Its difficult to explain if you've never lived there. On the surface it seems calm and peaceful, but things can quickly go pear-shaped and violent, but no-one ever talks about it. The talking about it is sometimes more verboten than the violence
I had an incident where I sounded the horn at some moron who nearly caused an accident by stopping at the end of a slip lane and then further down the road tried to use his new Freelander as a weapon (tried to undertake and run me off the road at a merge point), I ended up getting out of the car, he just sat there as if nothing happened, his fish wife was gobbing off at me, I said a few choice words about how he's such a hard man in his metal cage, I got back in my car and then 4 hours later I get the Police at my door, he'd basically claimed I had a weapon (a large knife) and that I smelt like I was on drugs/alcohol. After a few hours (and searching my car) the Police were happy that nothing had occurred the way he'd said, but that's hours of my life taken away by some poncy self-entitled twunt who couldn't f**king drive and thought it ok to use a 2 tonne vehicle as a weapon..... He should have been done for wasting Police time.
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