Have you ever been a victim of road rage while driving?
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Harry Flashman said:
On topic, I had a pretty unpleasant incident a couple of days before Christmas. I was driving back from the local DIY shop, and a guys stops to let me out. Some guy tries to overtake him at this point (this is a busy high road), and of course finds me pulling out. He absolutely lost it at this point. I drive home, at the speed limit, with him on my bumper, lights flashing etc.
At this point I make a pretty stupid decision, and drive home. What I should have done is driven to a police station, or better simply decided on a random 50 mile trip out of London to make him bored enough to go away, but I wasn't thinking clearly. I park up outside my house, (again stupidly). He gets out of the car and starts swearing, threatening me, telling me to get out of the car. I made my first smart decision throughout the incident and refused to do so, because at this point I notice he had his two children in the car, both under 5 years old, both screaming and crying.
I'm yelling at him that he has kids in the car and that if I get out of the car no-one is going to win, regardless of the outcome, he's kicking my door and losing it.
By this time, my wife, who is inside the house, and pregnant, has come to the rescue - by sending two of the massive Polish builders still there, trying to finish our house before Christmas, into the street. She, being cleverer than me, has told Maciek and Greg not to let on that this is our house, and to just get the guy to move on. They manage to do so, and to their credit do so without raising their voices or making threats - they just threaten to block him in and call the police. They have to do this several times before he decides to leave. He speeds off (in reverse, almost hitting parked cars!) down our quiet residential street, screaming racist abuse at both me (I'm not white) and the two builders.
We all go back inside. My wife is crying, I am pretty shaken. The builders are pretty chilled - they see this nonsense every week, they say, over a beer at our kitchen table. I don't - I rarely drive these days, living in London as I do.
I just cannot believe that someone woud a) lose it to such an extent that they are willing to commit assault on a complete stranger, and b) do that in front of their young children.
Nasty. Very glad I didn't get out of the car. There is absolutely no indication how any altercation would have gone, but I suspect anyone psychotic enough to behave in that way would possibly have given me a pretty good going over. One thing I do know - win or lose, it could have messed up my life. I have a family, career and home to lose by being charged with a crime. He probaby didn't give a toss about such things.
For info, I am a very chilled out driver, and have never lost my temper behind the wheel. That's not to say that I do not make mistakes - but I have always found that a cheery wave and a "sorry" have been sufficient if I have inconvenienced someone, and in turn I don't lose it if someone beeps me or pulls in front of me. But this was genuinely no fault of mine.
What scares me is that, had i not seen those kids in the car, I would have got out of my car - and possibly completely ruined my life, and my wife's. Lesson learned.
Good post Sir.At this point I make a pretty stupid decision, and drive home. What I should have done is driven to a police station, or better simply decided on a random 50 mile trip out of London to make him bored enough to go away, but I wasn't thinking clearly. I park up outside my house, (again stupidly). He gets out of the car and starts swearing, threatening me, telling me to get out of the car. I made my first smart decision throughout the incident and refused to do so, because at this point I notice he had his two children in the car, both under 5 years old, both screaming and crying.
I'm yelling at him that he has kids in the car and that if I get out of the car no-one is going to win, regardless of the outcome, he's kicking my door and losing it.
By this time, my wife, who is inside the house, and pregnant, has come to the rescue - by sending two of the massive Polish builders still there, trying to finish our house before Christmas, into the street. She, being cleverer than me, has told Maciek and Greg not to let on that this is our house, and to just get the guy to move on. They manage to do so, and to their credit do so without raising their voices or making threats - they just threaten to block him in and call the police. They have to do this several times before he decides to leave. He speeds off (in reverse, almost hitting parked cars!) down our quiet residential street, screaming racist abuse at both me (I'm not white) and the two builders.
We all go back inside. My wife is crying, I am pretty shaken. The builders are pretty chilled - they see this nonsense every week, they say, over a beer at our kitchen table. I don't - I rarely drive these days, living in London as I do.
I just cannot believe that someone woud a) lose it to such an extent that they are willing to commit assault on a complete stranger, and b) do that in front of their young children.
Nasty. Very glad I didn't get out of the car. There is absolutely no indication how any altercation would have gone, but I suspect anyone psychotic enough to behave in that way would possibly have given me a pretty good going over. One thing I do know - win or lose, it could have messed up my life. I have a family, career and home to lose by being charged with a crime. He probaby didn't give a toss about such things.
For info, I am a very chilled out driver, and have never lost my temper behind the wheel. That's not to say that I do not make mistakes - but I have always found that a cheery wave and a "sorry" have been sufficient if I have inconvenienced someone, and in turn I don't lose it if someone beeps me or pulls in front of me. But this was genuinely no fault of mine.
What scares me is that, had i not seen those kids in the car, I would have got out of my car - and possibly completely ruined my life, and my wife's. Lesson learned.
Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 28th April 09:05
Thoughtful and thought provoking
Have definitely been there both as recipient and thinking “right I am going to get out and tell him to shove it up his ....”
travel is dangerous said:
Just watched that from start to finish. Great documentary, thanks for sharing. A highlight for me was the man who sat down with his wife and cried together when they found his new company car was a maestro diesel. Douglas Quaid said:
travel is dangerous said:
Just watched that from start to finish. Great documentary, thanks for sharing. A highlight for me was the man who sat down with his wife and cried together when they found his new company car was a maestro diesel. Brooking10 said:
Harry Flashman said:
On topic, I had a pretty unpleasant incident a couple of days before Christmas. I was driving back from the local DIY shop, and a guys stops to let me out. Some guy tries to overtake him at this point (this is a busy high road), and of course finds me pulling out. He absolutely lost it at this point. I drive home, at the speed limit, with him on my bumper, lights flashing etc.
At this point I make a pretty stupid decision, and drive home. What I should have done is driven to a police station, or better simply decided on a random 50 mile trip out of London to make him bored enough to go away, but I wasn't thinking clearly. I park up outside my house, (again stupidly). He gets out of the car and starts swearing, threatening me, telling me to get out of the car. I made my first smart decision throughout the incident and refused to do so, because at this point I notice he had his two children in the car, both under 5 years old, both screaming and crying.
I'm yelling at him that he has kids in the car and that if I get out of the car no-one is going to win, regardless of the outcome, he's kicking my door and losing it.
By this time, my wife, who is inside the house, and pregnant, has come to the rescue - by sending two of the massive Polish builders still there, trying to finish our house before Christmas, into the street. She, being cleverer than me, has told Maciek and Greg not to let on that this is our house, and to just get the guy to move on. They manage to do so, and to their credit do so without raising their voices or making threats - they just threaten to block him in and call the police. They have to do this several times before he decides to leave. He speeds off (in reverse, almost hitting parked cars!) down our quiet residential street, screaming racist abuse at both me (I'm not white) and the two builders.
We all go back inside. My wife is crying, I am pretty shaken. The builders are pretty chilled - they see this nonsense every week, they say, over a beer at our kitchen table. I don't - I rarely drive these days, living in London as I do.
I just cannot believe that someone woud a) lose it to such an extent that they are willing to commit assault on a complete stranger, and b) do that in front of their young children.
Nasty. Very glad I didn't get out of the car. There is absolutely no indication how any altercation would have gone, but I suspect anyone psychotic enough to behave in that way would possibly have given me a pretty good going over. One thing I do know - win or lose, it could have messed up my life. I have a family, career and home to lose by being charged with a crime. He probaby didn't give a toss about such things.
For info, I am a very chilled out driver, and have never lost my temper behind the wheel. That's not to say that I do not make mistakes - but I have always found that a cheery wave and a "sorry" have been sufficient if I have inconvenienced someone, and in turn I don't lose it if someone beeps me or pulls in front of me. But this was genuinely no fault of mine.
What scares me is that, had i not seen those kids in the car, I would have got out of my car - and possibly completely ruined my life, and my wife's. Lesson learned.
Good post Sir.At this point I make a pretty stupid decision, and drive home. What I should have done is driven to a police station, or better simply decided on a random 50 mile trip out of London to make him bored enough to go away, but I wasn't thinking clearly. I park up outside my house, (again stupidly). He gets out of the car and starts swearing, threatening me, telling me to get out of the car. I made my first smart decision throughout the incident and refused to do so, because at this point I notice he had his two children in the car, both under 5 years old, both screaming and crying.
I'm yelling at him that he has kids in the car and that if I get out of the car no-one is going to win, regardless of the outcome, he's kicking my door and losing it.
By this time, my wife, who is inside the house, and pregnant, has come to the rescue - by sending two of the massive Polish builders still there, trying to finish our house before Christmas, into the street. She, being cleverer than me, has told Maciek and Greg not to let on that this is our house, and to just get the guy to move on. They manage to do so, and to their credit do so without raising their voices or making threats - they just threaten to block him in and call the police. They have to do this several times before he decides to leave. He speeds off (in reverse, almost hitting parked cars!) down our quiet residential street, screaming racist abuse at both me (I'm not white) and the two builders.
We all go back inside. My wife is crying, I am pretty shaken. The builders are pretty chilled - they see this nonsense every week, they say, over a beer at our kitchen table. I don't - I rarely drive these days, living in London as I do.
I just cannot believe that someone woud a) lose it to such an extent that they are willing to commit assault on a complete stranger, and b) do that in front of their young children.
Nasty. Very glad I didn't get out of the car. There is absolutely no indication how any altercation would have gone, but I suspect anyone psychotic enough to behave in that way would possibly have given me a pretty good going over. One thing I do know - win or lose, it could have messed up my life. I have a family, career and home to lose by being charged with a crime. He probaby didn't give a toss about such things.
For info, I am a very chilled out driver, and have never lost my temper behind the wheel. That's not to say that I do not make mistakes - but I have always found that a cheery wave and a "sorry" have been sufficient if I have inconvenienced someone, and in turn I don't lose it if someone beeps me or pulls in front of me. But this was genuinely no fault of mine.
What scares me is that, had i not seen those kids in the car, I would have got out of my car - and possibly completely ruined my life, and my wife's. Lesson learned.
Edited by Harry Flashman on Saturday 28th April 09:05
Thoughtful and thought provoking
Have definitely been there both as recipient and thinking “right I am going to get out and tell him to shove it up his ....”
Had a guy brake test me, signalled that he was a self mastubator so he followed me home. Nothing came of it except some verbal abuse however.
Don’t think I was tailgating him but I was 19 at the time in a 106 GTi so maybe I was being a tool.
Another bloke threatened to shoot me on the A421, also came to nothing, clearly.
Also had a car block me in on a side road, asked what he was doing and apparently I was ‘driving too slowly’ and I could see he ‘was clearly speeding’ so I should have ‘sped up’.
Not sure why he was so angry with this but I got out of my car during this discussion and when he realised I was a lot taller than him he disappeared.
I had no intention of violence however, not worth it.
Don’t think I was tailgating him but I was 19 at the time in a 106 GTi so maybe I was being a tool.
Another bloke threatened to shoot me on the A421, also came to nothing, clearly.
Also had a car block me in on a side road, asked what he was doing and apparently I was ‘driving too slowly’ and I could see he ‘was clearly speeding’ so I should have ‘sped up’.
Not sure why he was so angry with this but I got out of my car during this discussion and when he realised I was a lot taller than him he disappeared.
I had no intention of violence however, not worth it.
Many moons ago I was driving home from Northampton along the A45 towards Wellingborough in my Westfield SE. The road was pretty quiet and I was in the left hand lane minding my own business when a car full of chavs in the right hand land pulled level with me, they wound down the windows and started to go completely bats
t mental. No idea why but they were trying to run me off the road, shouting, waving their fists, the full works. I managed a very late move to pull off the road at the next junction trying to lose them. They slammed on the brakes and just managed to follow me, by which time I was getting extremely worried for my safety. There was a roundabout shortly following the junction so I put my foot down and pulled away a little, got to the roundabout and just about managed to pull off a 180 degree turn to head back to the A45 and away. The car of chavs either lost me at the roundabout or failed to negotiate the turn, there was no way I was going back to find out.
To this day I have no idea what lit their fire as the A45 was almost devoid of other traffic and I hadn't seen anyone else on the road until they appeared. Perhaps they just didn't appreciate the fact that I had a Westfield and they hadn't.
t mental. No idea why but they were trying to run me off the road, shouting, waving their fists, the full works. I managed a very late move to pull off the road at the next junction trying to lose them. They slammed on the brakes and just managed to follow me, by which time I was getting extremely worried for my safety. There was a roundabout shortly following the junction so I put my foot down and pulled away a little, got to the roundabout and just about managed to pull off a 180 degree turn to head back to the A45 and away. The car of chavs either lost me at the roundabout or failed to negotiate the turn, there was no way I was going back to find out.To this day I have no idea what lit their fire as the A45 was almost devoid of other traffic and I hadn't seen anyone else on the road until they appeared. Perhaps they just didn't appreciate the fact that I had a Westfield and they hadn't.
MKnight702 said:
Many moons ago I was driving home from Northampton along the A45 towards Wellingborough in my Westfield SE. The road was pretty quiet and I was in the left hand lane minding my own business when a car full of chavs in the right hand land pulled level with me, they wound down the windows and started to go completely batst mental. No idea why but they were trying to run me off the road, shouting, waving their fists, the full works. I managed a very late move to pull off the road at the next junction trying to lose them. They slammed on the brakes and just managed to follow me, by which time I was getting extremely worried for my safety. There was a roundabout shortly following the junction so I put my foot down and pulled away a little, got to the roundabout and just about managed to pull off a 180 degree turn to head back to the A45 and away. The car of chavs either lost me at the roundabout or failed to negotiate the turn, there was no way I was going back to find out.
To this day I have no idea what lit their fire as the A45 was almost devoid of other traffic and I hadn't seen anyone else on the road until they appeared. Perhaps they just didn't appreciate the fact that I had a Westfield and they hadn't.
Mate every time I take my Westfield out I get some idiot take offence to it, it was fun to drive 20 years ago, but now in an age when everyone drives big cars (even a fiesta is a big car these days), I tend to go out once or twice once a year, realise why I don't do it more often and then put it away again until next year. Ownership and tinkering is more fun than dealing with morons who want to kill me just for daring to drive something different.t mental. No idea why but they were trying to run me off the road, shouting, waving their fists, the full works. I managed a very late move to pull off the road at the next junction trying to lose them. They slammed on the brakes and just managed to follow me, by which time I was getting extremely worried for my safety. There was a roundabout shortly following the junction so I put my foot down and pulled away a little, got to the roundabout and just about managed to pull off a 180 degree turn to head back to the A45 and away. The car of chavs either lost me at the roundabout or failed to negotiate the turn, there was no way I was going back to find out.To this day I have no idea what lit their fire as the A45 was almost devoid of other traffic and I hadn't seen anyone else on the road until they appeared. Perhaps they just didn't appreciate the fact that I had a Westfield and they hadn't.
I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
rambo19 said:
Unless you are 100% prepared to commit violence, do not, sound your horn/wave your fist/give the finger to other motorists.
IMO, aggressive drivers take libertys because they know that they can get away with it.
I hate driving now, the standards are diabolical, and 99% of the time I try and let it go over my head. Sometimes though, I do lose my temper and react.
This, and also accept the logical follow on consequences, such as potentially being arrested, going to court, criminal record, etc etc. It's a bit of a bugger and probably explains why thugs often get away with acts of violence in broad daylight in crowded streets, unless you have nothing to lose the chances on ending up on a charge yourself are too high. IMO, aggressive drivers take libertys because they know that they can get away with it.
I hate driving now, the standards are diabolical, and 99% of the time I try and let it go over my head. Sometimes though, I do lose my temper and react.
ST Ford said:
Well yesterday after 8 years of trouble free driving i was on the receiving end of an angry driver calling me every name under the sun. It was a hot day which seems to wind many drivers up and it was on a roundabout approaching a retail park.
To cut a long story short his wife was 100% in the wrong lane doddering about like she did not know which lane to get in. There are arrows on the floor of each lane telling you which one to be in for the retail park but he seemed to take offence at me not indicating even though i did not change lanes or cut anyone up i was following the arrows on the floor so there is no need to indicate.
Well he for some unknown reason decided to take it out on me that his wife was in the wrong lane so when we got round it onto the set of lights for the retail park being 1 car length back in the other lane he decided to start shouting at me very loudly from the passenger seat while going bright red with rage. Typical knuckle dragger with a vest on smoking a roll up. I looked out my window to see this skinny little chav who weighed about 10 stone telling me to fking indicate you wker etc. I just looked at him and shook my head while he carried on shouting calling me every swear word he could think of with no valid reason. It must have been a good 10 seconds until the lights changed so i had to sit there while he was still mouthing off at me and bite my tongue while resisting the urge to get out and pull the mouthy little chav out of the car and smash his face in.
I have been letting this wind me up since it happened and its still annoying me now that i did not get out and do something. But then the rational side kicks in and i think i made the correct decision by ignoring him even if it did make me look and feel like a pussy.
so as a man would you guys have made the same decision or would you have gotten out of the car and dealt with him?
also interested in hearing any other stories of similair incidents that you guys have had.
Use of the indicator may have helped the situation, people not indicating do wind people up.To cut a long story short his wife was 100% in the wrong lane doddering about like she did not know which lane to get in. There are arrows on the floor of each lane telling you which one to be in for the retail park but he seemed to take offence at me not indicating even though i did not change lanes or cut anyone up i was following the arrows on the floor so there is no need to indicate.
Well he for some unknown reason decided to take it out on me that his wife was in the wrong lane so when we got round it onto the set of lights for the retail park being 1 car length back in the other lane he decided to start shouting at me very loudly from the passenger seat while going bright red with rage. Typical knuckle dragger with a vest on smoking a roll up. I looked out my window to see this skinny little chav who weighed about 10 stone telling me to f
king indicate you wker etc. I just looked at him and shook my head while he carried on shouting calling me every swear word he could think of with no valid reason. It must have been a good 10 seconds until the lights changed so i had to sit there while he was still mouthing off at me and bite my tongue while resisting the urge to get out and pull the mouthy little chav out of the car and smash his face in. I have been letting this wind me up since it happened and its still annoying me now that i did not get out and do something. But then the rational side kicks in and i think i made the correct decision by ignoring him even if it did make me look and feel like a pussy.
so as a man would you guys have made the same decision or would you have gotten out of the car and dealt with him?
also interested in hearing any other stories of similair incidents that you guys have had.
I assume you mean you would have GOT out of the car and dealt with him.
Y16 SES said:
Great timing for this thread, was thinking of starting one myself because I also suffered my first road rage incident today.
I've been driving roughly 13 months (so I haven't had a lot of time to ps off other drivers) and this is a pretty tame road "rage" incident compared to some but I'll tell it anyway
It's raining, I'm driving on a 40mph road going into a town which the police sit on regularly to ticket speeders, in going 35mph indicated, which is 32mph really. Everything's fine, until an old lifted Vauxhall Frontera comes speeding up behind me and at the last minute slams on the brakes, the Vauxhall pitched so badly I thought it was going to forward flip! Anyway, he then starts swerving all over the lane beeping his horn, while I maintained my speed (I'm not going to be pressured), the pedestrians watching were in hysterics. Roundabout starts coming up so I lift off the accelerator and slowly slow down (I always do this, less brake usage and better fuel economy), the Vauxhall driver is redder than a Henry hoover at this point! I stop at the roundabout, I'm going left so in the left lane, he swerved around me bumps the Frontera onto the island in the middle of the road (millimetres from a bollard) and stops. I glance over (as everyone would) and he's giving me everything under the sun (hand signals and mouthing off) before roaring off nearly wiping out a car passing in front of us (going off the roundabout) and making another do an emergency stop. The now stopped car on the roundabout allows me out, and everybody drives on normally as if nothing happened. I was a bit shocked at the actual event but looking back it is just funny.
So despite that Vauxhall Frontera being my first road rage incident I experienced my second one this weekend, Sunday to be exact.I've been driving roughly 13 months (so I haven't had a lot of time to p
s off other drivers) and this is a pretty tame road "rage" incident compared to some but I'll tell it anywayIt's raining, I'm driving on a 40mph road going into a town which the police sit on regularly to ticket speeders, in going 35mph indicated, which is 32mph really. Everything's fine, until an old lifted Vauxhall Frontera comes speeding up behind me and at the last minute slams on the brakes, the Vauxhall pitched so badly I thought it was going to forward flip! Anyway, he then starts swerving all over the lane beeping his horn, while I maintained my speed (I'm not going to be pressured), the pedestrians watching were in hysterics. Roundabout starts coming up so I lift off the accelerator and slowly slow down (I always do this, less brake usage and better fuel economy), the Vauxhall driver is redder than a Henry hoover at this point! I stop at the roundabout, I'm going left so in the left lane, he swerved around me bumps the Frontera onto the island in the middle of the road (millimetres from a bollard) and stops. I glance over (as everyone would) and he's giving me everything under the sun (hand signals and mouthing off) before roaring off nearly wiping out a car passing in front of us (going off the roundabout) and making another do an emergency stop. The now stopped car on the roundabout allows me out, and everybody drives on normally as if nothing happened. I was a bit shocked at the actual event but looking back it is just funny.
I was driving along on a 30mph road, going 20mph (I have my reason) and everything was fine. That was until a blue Peugeot 207 pulled aggressively out of a roadside parking space I had just passed (saw it in my mirror) and started acting like I was travelling at 2mph, the driving of the guy was appealing. When the oncoming traffic ceased he floored it past me, and he must have been in 1st gear with the sound, and slammed on the brakes once ahead. The Audi that was behind me (who was cut up when the Peugeot pulled out the space) had already seen this coming and braked before the Peugeot got passed me so luckily there was no chance of a rear-end incident. Peugeot driver then starts weaving over the road and signalled for me to follow him into a side street. Of course I didn't follow (I'm terribly underweight and have no muscle while also hating violence, so it really wouldn't have ended well) but when I glanced over to the junction he just pulled into he had his whole torso out the window screaming and shouting at me. This is a Sunday, just after lunch time, he just pulled into a residential street, the chances of children were huge. However I haven't read about anyone being hit by a car so it seems luck was on his side, despite his t
tty nature.lyonspride said:
Mate every time I take my Westfield out I get some idiot take offence to it, it was fun to drive 20 years ago, but now in an age when everyone drives big cars (even a fiesta is a big car these days), I tend to go out once or twice once a year, realise why I don't do it more often and then put it away again until next year. Ownership and tinkering is more fun than dealing with morons who want to kill me just for daring to drive something different.
I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
Never had this problem with my Caterham - quite the opposite. So it may be something to do with a) where you live of b) how you drive? I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
Harry Flashman said:
lyonspride said:
Mate every time I take my Westfield out I get some idiot take offence to it, it was fun to drive 20 years ago, but now in an age when everyone drives big cars (even a fiesta is a big car these days), I tend to go out once or twice once a year, realise why I don't do it more often and then put it away again until next year. Ownership and tinkering is more fun than dealing with morons who want to kill me just for daring to drive something different.
I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
Never had this problem with my Caterham - quite the opposite. So it may be something to do with a) where you live of b) how you drive? I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
The longer I have driven, the more I realise it is surprising easy (in a subtle way) to influence how those around you drive, without necessarily inconveniencing yourself.
Pica-Pica said:
Harry Flashman said:
lyonspride said:
Mate every time I take my Westfield out I get some idiot take offence to it, it was fun to drive 20 years ago, but now in an age when everyone drives big cars (even a fiesta is a big car these days), I tend to go out once or twice once a year, realise why I don't do it more often and then put it away again until next year. Ownership and tinkering is more fun than dealing with morons who want to kill me just for daring to drive something different.
I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
Never had this problem with my Caterham - quite the opposite. So it may be something to do with a) where you live of b) how you drive? I don't know how much of it is jealousy, but seriously it's 20+ years old!!! FFS
The longer I have driven, the more I realise it is surprising easy (in a subtle way) to influence how those around you drive, without necessarily inconveniencing yourself.
When you say "influence other drivers", the one I do most of the time on NSL roads is pretend like i'm going to overtake (road positioning right of lane centre), this usually makes them put on another 20mph without putting my life in danger. Do it somewhere you wouldn't overtake and it gives you some idea of what they'll do if/when you get to a good bit of overtaking road.
Of course on the other hand if I do intend to overtake, I position the car central lane, leave a good gap and don't give them even the slightest clue of my intentions.
Happened to me a week or so ago.
NSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
NSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
Muzzer79 said:
Happened to me a week or so ago.
NSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
No denying the VW driver is a tNSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
t, but at the same time did you not think that he (and the other car you overtook) might also be wanting to overtake a slow moving tractor? Zetec-S said:
Muzzer79 said:
Happened to me a week or so ago.
NSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
No denying the VW driver is a tNSL, single carriageway A-road. It's my regular commute home, so I know it well.
I am 3rd in a line of cars following a tractor. Due to lack of line of sight and cars coming the other way, it is not safe to overtake.
We come to a long-ish straight part of road that I have foreseen, due to knowing the road. There is a break in the traffic coming the other way, so I am quick to indicate, move out and go to overtake the two cars in front of me, plus the tractor.
I overtake the first car and am about to pass the second (a modern VW camper van)
As I am approaching his 5 o'clock, I sense him drifting out to overtake the tractor aswell. He is not indicating and slowly moving across lanes.
I deduce that he's going for the overtake having not checked his mirrors and/or seen me. I hold back, sound my horn as he pulls out and follow him around the tractor.
When we're both clear and back in our lane, he holds his hand out of the window and gestures coffee beans.
I return his compliment through my windscreen.
At this point he brakes, hard, and stops on the road. He then opens his door , half gets out of the car and starts shouting at me. We are now both stationary on the NSL, single lane road with others overtaking at a not-very-safe point.
I cannot hear what he is shouting and am certainly not about to get out of the car to find out. He is purple with rage and gesticulating.
I go to pull out and overtake him from stationery. He moves his van to the middle of the road before I can do so.
Eventually, he moves off and then even gestures for me to overtake him further down the road.
It's weird how people get so stressed about what amounts to a driving incident.
t, but at the same time did you not think that he (and the other car you overtook) might also be wanting to overtake a slow moving tractor? As it was, he didn't. I was making progress on a safe, straight road that I knew was clear. He was a good 5-10 seconds into the zone where an overtake was safely possible. I wasn't about to wait for his hesitation.
I was quicker to go for the overtake due to knowing the road, but that's life - sometimes someone knows the road and will make a move ahead of you. He should have checked the road was clear before attempting the overtake.
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