Have you ever been a victim of road rage while driving?
Discussion
Muzzer79 said:
If he had indicated at any point, I would have held back to let him out or pulled in behind him.
As it was, he didn't. I was making progress on a safe, straight road that I knew was clear. He was a good 5-10 seconds into the zone where an overtake was safely possible. I wasn't about to wait for his hesitation.
I was quicker to go for the overtake due to knowing the road, but that's life - sometimes someone knows the road and will make a move ahead of you. He should have checked the road was clear before attempting the overtake.
The bloke at the front is a bit slow off the mark, the bloke follow him is waiting, and then someone piles past from behind. VW bloke is a tt but it wasn't a great move by you.As it was, he didn't. I was making progress on a safe, straight road that I knew was clear. He was a good 5-10 seconds into the zone where an overtake was safely possible. I wasn't about to wait for his hesitation.
I was quicker to go for the overtake due to knowing the road, but that's life - sometimes someone knows the road and will make a move ahead of you. He should have checked the road was clear before attempting the overtake.
(And, yes, I've done the same but I acknowledge I was a prat...)
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Edited by jfire on Monday 27th August 13:37
You can get as annoyed and mad as you like and still avoid road rage, you cross the line when you want to tell the other person how annoyed and mad you are.
Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
jfire said:
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Often winds these people up even more when they realise you are unwilling to stoop to their level. He realised he was the smaller man, attempts to compensate by upping his level of aggressionEdited by jfire on Monday 27th August 13:37
Many similarities to a typical PH discussion, actually!
Oldcars61 said:
jfire said:
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Often winds these people up even more when they realise you are unwilling to stoop to their level. He realised he was the smaller man, attempts to compensate by upping his level of aggressionEdited by jfire on Monday 27th August 13:37
Many similarities to a typical PH discussion, actually!
Wills2 said:
You can get as annoyed and mad as you like and still avoid road rage, you cross the line when you want to tell the other person how annoyed and mad you are.
Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
Fair point but without telling someone about their driving I only have to hope the c**t gets caught by the police doing such dangerous manoeuvres in future.Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
Wills2 said:
You can get as annoyed and mad as you like and still avoid road rage, you cross the line when you want to tell the other person how annoyed and mad you are.
Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
Not sure that's a good example. It's game on at checkout time. If it's a long and slow queue and the checkout bod is chatting far too much to Dorris as though they have all the time in the world. Then at time to pay Dorris hunts in her bag for 2 mins for her card and vouchers then checks them all. Take a shopping trip to a local supermarket, masses of people in the main being very annoying with people getting in each others way, however the response is, I'm sorry after you...No please after you, no I insist you go first, (inside you may well be thinking you daft old bat but you keep it to yourself) but when those same people get in the car it turns into fk you! No fk you! I insist go fk yourself!
Drive your car like you're walking down the street or out shopping and 99% of the nonsense will stop.
The worst supermarket incident was when i was 2-3 trolleys back, in line and i ran off to grab something. I was max, 1 minute and there was still a full trolley in front. BUT some asshole had jumped my trolley. It was too late to move his trolley as he and his lady friend had layed out all of their purchases but i did ask them why they moved my trolley and i did tell them it's a very rude thing to do. Jumping a trolley is only ok if they've left the scene and their trolley is ready to be scanned
jfire said:
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand why you did it but one could argue that the horn usage wasn't required and would have avoided the confrontation if you hadn't used it. Angry idiots like the one you encountered are looking for a reaction so they can start a fight, it gives them some sort of strange pleasure. I prefer to just give them space and completely ignore them where possible. No good can ever come from engaging with them.I do, however, always hope they encounter a similar angry idiot in the very near future.
gforceg said:
travel is dangerous said:
whilst cycling, all the bloody time.
On Thursday a woman attempted to undertake me by using the pavement. There was a queue of traffic about 50 metres ahead in the bus lane,waiting at some lights, I just stopped pedalling and was slowly rolling up to the queue (so that I didn't have to stop before the lights changed) and the car that had followed me up the hill in the bus lane (undertaking everyone who was queueing not in the bus lane) pulled level with me whilst straddling the pavement. The driver had to stop when she approached a sign post on the pavement ahead of her. After this she sat at the lights behind me constantly beeping.
Excellent. Sounds like you met The Mental.On Thursday a woman attempted to undertake me by using the pavement. There was a queue of traffic about 50 metres ahead in the bus lane,waiting at some lights, I just stopped pedalling and was slowly rolling up to the queue (so that I didn't have to stop before the lights changed) and the car that had followed me up the hill in the bus lane (undertaking everyone who was queueing not in the bus lane) pulled level with me whilst straddling the pavement. The driver had to stop when she approached a sign post on the pavement ahead of her. After this she sat at the lights behind me constantly beeping.
Maybe trying to get to a hospital?
Sten. said:
jfire said:
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand why you did it but one could argue that the horn usage wasn't required and would have avoided the confrontation if you hadn't used it. Angry idiots like the one you encountered are looking for a reaction so they can start a fight, it gives them some sort of strange pleasure. I prefer to just give them space and completely ignore them where possible. No good can ever come from engaging with them.I do, however, always hope they encounter a similar angry idiot in the very near future.
jfire said:
Sten. said:
jfire said:
I was overtaken yesterday just after a corner on a single lane urban road, and was a few cm from crashing into him after he had to slam on his brakes to avoid an oncoming owing to the fact that there's just enough room for traffic in both directions and cars parked on either side even when you're on the correct side of the road. He took exception to me tooting him and proceeded to get out of his car and confront me. My response was to question his need to drive like that (in less polite terms). I get the impression he was frustrated by coming up against my closed window and me unwilling to engage in an altercation, as proceed to punch it then spit on my bonnet as he returned to his vehicle. That really taught my toughened glass a lesson. I thought I'd learnt not to react, having sat on a road rage case but one thing I did take from that case was not to get out the car. Even driving later that day I still found it very hard not to get wound up by people's terrible driving. I think my question of his need to drive in such a way was valid however, as it's clear he was not in a rush if he had time to stop and get out the car!
Don't get me wrong, I completely understand why you did it but one could argue that the horn usage wasn't required and would have avoided the confrontation if you hadn't used it. Angry idiots like the one you encountered are looking for a reaction so they can start a fight, it gives them some sort of strange pleasure. I prefer to just give them space and completely ignore them where possible. No good can ever come from engaging with them.I do, however, always hope they encounter a similar angry idiot in the very near future.
Our first child was born last weekend, I had to rush 20 miles to the nearest hospital, all I wanted to do was the speed limit, but a number of people did things like straddling lanes on a dual-carriageway, racing to merge points and then slowing down, etc etc........ But "not a single f**k was given that day", if they'd started driving like the passive-aggressive s I see on that road every morning, people out looking for trouble, then I would have rammed them out of the way without a second thought, carried on with my journey and dealt with the fallout later.
If someone wants to get past, drop the f**king ego and let them go, chances are they're just impatient, but on that one occasion in 1000, you might end up holding someone up who is genuinely in a hurry, whether that's someone trying to get to hospital, an on-call firefighter trying to get to a call out, a blood or organ courier or any number of possible reasons.
In fact drivers actively blocking on-call firefighters is something that was in the local news a few years ago.
Edited by lyonspride on Thursday 30th August 00:51
lyonspride said:
How long was this person stuck behind you? I ask because quite frankly you sound like the sort of tit who see's another driver who may be in a rush, and then does their best to obstruct them, so that you can claim the moral high ground when they loose their st.
Our first child was born last weekend, I had to rush 20 miles to the nearest hospital, all I wanted to do was the speed limit, but a number of people did things like straddling lanes on a dual-carriageway, racing to merge points and then slowing down, etc etc........ But "not a single f**k was given that day", if they'd started driving like the passive-aggressive s I see on that road every morning, people out looking for trouble, then I would have rammed them out of the way without a second thought, carried on with my journey and dealt with the fallout later.
If someone wants to get past, drop the f**king ego and let them go, chances are they're just impatient, but on that one occasion in 1000, you might end up holding someone up who is genuinely in a hurry, whether that's someone trying to get to hospital, an on-call firefighter trying to get to a call out, a blood or organ courier or any number of possible reasons.
In fact drivers actively blocking on-call firefighters is something that was in the local news a few years ago.
lol is this a wind up?Our first child was born last weekend, I had to rush 20 miles to the nearest hospital, all I wanted to do was the speed limit, but a number of people did things like straddling lanes on a dual-carriageway, racing to merge points and then slowing down, etc etc........ But "not a single f**k was given that day", if they'd started driving like the passive-aggressive s I see on that road every morning, people out looking for trouble, then I would have rammed them out of the way without a second thought, carried on with my journey and dealt with the fallout later.
If someone wants to get past, drop the f**king ego and let them go, chances are they're just impatient, but on that one occasion in 1000, you might end up holding someone up who is genuinely in a hurry, whether that's someone trying to get to hospital, an on-call firefighter trying to get to a call out, a blood or organ courier or any number of possible reasons.
In fact drivers actively blocking on-call firefighters is something that was in the local news a few years ago.
Edited by lyonspride on Thursday 30th August 00:51
The first time I saw him was when he overtook. I assume he was a good distance back but travelling at speed on the road I joined which was about 50 metres before the bend he overtook me after.
And I'd say he looked more a drug dealer and was driving the popular public service Mercedes C Class convertible. Although he was well built like a fireman, this was more likely as a result of having lots of time to spend in the gym owing to not having legitimate employment.
Edited by jfire on Thursday 30th August 10:21
late at night, probably around 11 or could've been 1am. I go down a side road to do a U-turn using an alleyway that's halfway down the road as extra room for my manouvere (the road is so narrow, with cars parked both sides it's basically 1 lane). . as i'm halfway into the u turn a car comes bombing down into the road and stops short of me. passenger gets out comes right up to my window as if he wants a fight asking me wtf am i doing, get the fk out the way and makes threats. I look back at the driver and he's calm, doesn't say/do anything. I can only assume he must've been a cab driver. the knob gets back into the car, driver waits. i tuck back in to let the driver passed then carry on back the way i came..
After glancing through this thread I felt fairly lucky I've never attracted the ire of a nutter. All changed today though! BMW 118d pushes its way infront at a tight bend, despite being in the lane to go right. Small toot of the horn to remind them there are usually cars on their inside and you can't just plough through, get brake checked twice. Shake my head and carry on, then they draw level the passenger gets out shouting and gesturing, presumably to discuss my criticisms of their driving in finer detail. I'm trying to get home so just shake my head again and move on when the lights change.
Strange folk out there.
Strange folk out there.
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