dangerous motorway driving
Discussion
tinnitusjosh said:
baldy1926 said:
I've noticed recently as well cars just sat in lane 2 on dual carriageways.
I know it's poor form, but i tend to hog the right line of the A41 near me in order to keep the left lane clear for people that want to join - saves having to swerve around people that merge and take too long to get up to speed. Everyone else is welcome to [try to] undertake if they want 
If someone is being courteous letting you join, you should let them sort themselves out before trying to make progress.
WhiskyDisco said:
Even after this pull I maintain that undertaking is OK as long as:
1. It's a one way street (like a motorway)
2. The action can only be performed by not exceeding the speed limit
3. I do not then move directly in front of the car I was behind previously
4. Keep 'em peeled for the boys (and girls) in blue
Never had a pull for it, but I work to these rules too. 1. It's a one way street (like a motorway)
2. The action can only be performed by not exceeding the speed limit
3. I do not then move directly in front of the car I was behind previously
4. Keep 'em peeled for the boys (and girls) in blue
Osinjak said:
I can't quite get my fat head around the fact that the OP has encountered a hazard on the road and actually made it worse by 'doubling the odds' for 30 miles(!) Call me old fashioned but when I encounter a hazard on the road I do my level best to get away from it, not make it worse by hanging on to it for 30 miles.
Daft, really.
Under taking is good. Daft, really.
tinnitusjosh said:
I know it's poor form, but i tend to hog the right line of the A41 near me in order to keep the left lane clear for people that want to join - saves having to swerve around people that merge and take too long to get up to speed. Everyone else is welcome to [try to] undertake if they want
Personally, if it's a quiet road (i.e. few cars dawdling along in L1), then I couldn't care less what lane I'm in. I Just stay in L2 or L3 to avoid weaving back and forth. If I see a car closing in on me then for sure I will move over, and on a busy road I get back in L1 whenever possible.The stretch of A27 between Chichester and Portsmouth I stay in L2 the whole way because the pot holes in L1 don't play nice with the LSD, not to mention what they probably do to tyres, wheels, alignment etc.
MDT said:
Really, just undertake them... 99 times out of 100 they will not even notice anything has even happened.
Agree, other people are inattentive/inconsiderate, but there is absolutely no need to make a big deal out of it - just cruise past in lane one and get on with your journey, hakuna matata.Osinjak said:
I can't quite get my fat head around the fact that the OP has encountered a hazard on the road and actually made it worse by 'doubling the odds' for 30 miles(!) Call me old fashioned but when I encounter a hazard on the road I do my level best to get away from it, not make it worse by hanging on to it for 30 miles.
Daft, really.
He was busy shouting "CAMERAAAAA" and pointing to his dashcam?Daft, really.
Last time I read up on this, you can actually overtake on the left legally. Stick to the lane you are in and go past, this is considered 'maintaining your current speed in lane', not an undertake. An undertake according to the highway code (iirc) is to be following someone in the same lane, change to a left lane, go past and then return in front of them. In the case of an accident, you could be charged with undue care and attention though, so always be alert.
Worth checking a highway code yourself.
Edit: some supporting info here:
"Rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake."
In the highway code, 'Do not' and 'should not' are advisory. 'Must not' is a legal. It is indeed a bit of a grey area, but as long as you perform an overtake on the left with due care and attention and within the speed limits, this doesn't seem to be a prosecutable offence.
Worth checking a highway code yourself.
Edit: some supporting info here:
"Rule 268
Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake. In congested conditions, where adjacent lanes of traffic are moving at similar speeds, traffic in left-hand lanes may sometimes be moving faster than traffic to the right. In these conditions you may keep up with the traffic in your lane even if this means passing traffic in the lane to your right. Do not weave in and out of lanes to overtake."
In the highway code, 'Do not' and 'should not' are advisory. 'Must not' is a legal. It is indeed a bit of a grey area, but as long as you perform an overtake on the left with due care and attention and within the speed limits, this doesn't seem to be a prosecutable offence.
Edited by Andy S15 on Wednesday 25th April 10:59
dibblecorse said:
Sammy which 2.0 Diesel White German Saloon do you drive ??
Unfortunately, dibblecorse, I was driving my panda at the time so did not have the option of a quick undertake. If, however, I had been in my E55 AMG it would have been a different tale.. If you ever see me in a VAG/BMW/MB poverty spec car, I give you my permission to run me off the road to my fiery death.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff