RE: Mercedes-AMG E53 replaces E43 in E-Class line up

RE: Mercedes-AMG E53 replaces E43 in E-Class line up

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MalcolmSmith

1,742 posts

76 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
Stoopid over-styling inspired by my first AIWA stereo aside (3-disc-rotary changer! Dynamic Bass Boost! Argos p553) , that's quite a nice bit of kit, innit.

Imagine arriving somewhere in that spec though. What if someone you know is already there, do you just sit and wait until they've gone?

Not much point in getting there so quickly if that's going to happen very often.
I agree, its disgusting, plainly not aimed at previous AMG customers like myself. I really dont understand the current Mercedes interior scheme which is somewhere between Nana’s coffee table and Amstrad. That said the 5 ‘Sport/ M’ is pretty gaudy too, so maybe its just the global market.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
Stoopid over-styling inspired by my first AIWA stereo aside (3-disc-rotary changer! Dynamic Bass Boost! Argos p553) , that's quite a nice bit of kit, innit.

Imagine arriving somewhere in that spec though. What if someone you know is already there, do you just sit and wait until they've gone?

Not much point in getting there so quickly if that's going to happen very often.
When you say “that spec” you mean a grey estate car ?

Not entirely sure why that causes aesthetic alarm.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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MalcolmSmith said:
I agree, its disgusting, plainly not aimed at previous AMG customers like myself. I really dont understand the current Mercedes interior scheme which is somewhere between Nana’s coffee table and Amstrad. That said the 5 ‘Sport/ M’ is pretty gaudy too, so maybe its just the global market.
I am surprised that it would be viewed as disgusting. What is it in particular you don’t like ?

5000 miles in and I am finding I really like the interior, it’s comfortable, well built and the infotainment works very well. I am not sure what is gaudy about black leather and black ash. Oh and the fairy lights can be switched to more subtle colours or indeed off.

Having had a C63, CLS 63 and GTs previously it didn’t put this sample of one previous customer off wink


popeyewhite

19,953 posts

121 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Mr E said:
In estate guise, this sort of thing is very much my bag.
Yep, it's a gorgeous looking thing - both inside and out. Not so sure about the white coupe though.

MalcolmSmith

1,742 posts

76 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Brooking10 said:
I am surprised that it would be viewed as disgusting. What is it in particular you don’t like ?

5000 miles in and I am finding I really like the interior, it’s comfortable, well built and the infotainment works very well. I am not sure what is gaudy about black leather and black ash. Oh and the fairy lights can be switched to more subtle colours or indeed off.

Having had a C63, CLS 63 and GTs previously it didn’t put this sample of one previous customer off wink
If the red stripe can vanish then you're half way there, it lacks any subtlety or a specific theme.

Black S2K

1,477 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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MalcolmSmith said:
SpeckledJim said:
Stoopid over-styling inspired by my first AIWA stereo aside (3-disc-rotary changer! Dynamic Bass Boost! Argos p553) , that's quite a nice bit of kit, innit.

Imagine arriving somewhere in that spec though. What if someone you know is already there, do you just sit and wait until they've gone?

Not much point in getting there so quickly if that's going to happen very often.
I agree, its disgusting, plainly not aimed at previous AMG customers like myself. I really dont understand the current Mercedes interior scheme which is somewhere between Nana’s coffee table and Amstrad. That said the 5 ‘Sport/ M’ is pretty gaudy too, so maybe its just the global market.
I got me a Chrysler,
It's as big as a whale...

...is the lyric that runs through my mind when I see this.

M-Bs were a bit bombastic back in the early 1960s, but never as crass.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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MalcolmSmith said:
If the red stripe can vanish then you're half way there, it lacks any subtlety or a specific theme.
I’m not sure what last bit means ?

Which AMG do/did you own so I can get a sense of what your point of reference is.

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Black S2K said:
I got me a Chrysler,
It's as big as a whale...

...is the lyric that runs through my mind when I see this.

M-Bs were a bit bombastic back in the early 1960s, but never as crass.
Interior or exterior ?

I get that folk don’t like lots of lights and digital bits in interiors but am genuinely struggling with how a grey estate car is crass.


Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 28th April 13:29

Mackofthejungle

1,073 posts

196 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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When did exhausts become such a desirable thing? An engines ahole, something people want to see and film for youtube. Weird.

I'd much prefer if they just tucked them under the bumper - they all look ste.

Black S2K

1,477 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Brooking10 said:
Black S2K said:
I got me a Chrysler,
It's as big as a whale...

...is the lyric that runs through my mind when I see this.

M-Bs were a bit bombastic back in the early 1960s, but never as crass.
Interior or exterior ?

I get that folk don’t like lots of lights and digital bits in interiors but am genuinely struggling with how a grey estate car is crass.


Edited by Brooking10 on Saturday 28th April 13:29
Both, really.

The droopy-whale exterior - and the interior reminds me of those chrome-laden yank-tanks of '59/60. Though it's mostly silver rattle-can paint now...

Maybe I'm just stuck on the restraint of the Paul Bracq-era cars.

And the ueber-restraint functionality of the Bruno Sacco era ones.

Not that I'm singling-out M-B individually; most seem to be pandering (panda-ing?) to Chinese tastes these days and I find most modern cars deplorable.

Just M-B in particular, in the light of their heritage.



anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Black S2K said:
Both, really.

The droopy-whale exterior - and the interior reminds me of those chrome-laden yank-tanks of '59/60. Though it's mostly silver rattle-can paint now...

Maybe I'm just stuck on the restraint of the Paul Bracq-era cars.

And the ueber-restraint functionality of the Bruno Sacco era ones.

Not that I'm singling-out M-B individually; most seem to be pandering (panda-ing?) to Chinese tastes these days and I find most modern cars deplorable.

Just M-B in particular, in the light of their heritage.
Each to their own.

I don’t see the droopy whale on the outside but we all see things differently. Personally I think the estate is subtley handsome and clearly follows the MB large estate lineage.

The interior in my car is, IMO, lovely, high quality, functional and comfortable with lzero resemblance to a 60s Bakelite special tank tank. Yes the LED lighting in the press shots is garish but that’s easily remedied. Worst bit in the article pic of this car is the unpleasant silver finish all over the steering wheel which the full fat AMG version doesn’t have.

It’s fashionable in certain PH quarters to slag off modern cars and their design but functionally and quality wise the current Mercs are on top
of their game.




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Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 28th April 16:42

Tim bo

1,956 posts

141 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Mackofthejungle said:
When did exhausts become such a desirable thing? An engines ahole, something people want to see and film for youtube. Weird.

I'd much prefer if they just tucked them under the bumper - they all look ste.
redcard

Black S2K

1,477 posts

250 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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Brooking10 said:
Black S2K said:
Both, really.

The droopy-whale exterior - and the interior reminds me of those chrome-laden yank-tanks of '59/60. Though it's mostly silver rattle-can paint now...

Maybe I'm just stuck on the restraint of the Paul Bracq-era cars.

And the ueber-restraint functionality of the Bruno Sacco era ones.

Not that I'm singling-out M-B individually; most seem to be pandering (panda-ing?) to Chinese tastes these days and I find most modern cars deplorable.

Just M-B in particular, in the light of their heritage.
Each to their own.

I don’t see the droopy whale on the outside but we all see things differently. Petsibslly I think the estate is subtlety handsome and clearly follows the MB large estate lineage.

The interior in my car is, IMO, lovely, high quality, functional and comfortable with lzero resemblance to a 60s Bakelite special tank tank. Yes the LED lighting in the press shots is garish but that’s easily remedied. Worst bit in the late call of this car is the unpleasant silver finish all over the steering wheel which the full fat AMG version doesn’t have.

It’s fashionable in certain PH quarters to slag off modern cars and their design but functionally and quality wise the current Mercs are on top
of their game.
I agree the E-Klasse is the easily best of the current crop on several levels - that rattle-can steering wheel notwithstanding! The A-class reminds me of an Allegro van den Plas and not in a good way.

Pleased to read that the quality has come back - I'm still haunted by memories of the fiascoes associated by the Daimler-Chrysler era cars.

As long as you're pleased with it, is all that matters.

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Saturday 28th April 2018
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The prices in Germany have been announced as €79,248 for the saloon and €82,039 for the wagon. So about €4,000 more the the outgoing model.
There's also a 400d & new 300d, but since diesel sales have fallen off a cliff in the UK we probably won't be hearing too much about them.

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

98 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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Wouldn't it be massively exciting if AMG would use the straight six to create a Cayman competitor/baby AMG GT?

Vocht

1,631 posts

165 months

Sunday 29th April 2018
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These 48V electric systems in the 53 range are going to be an expensive nightmare when it comes to repairs so the 'simpler' 43 range I suspect will be much more desirable on the second hand marker in a few years time.

selondonman

151 posts

208 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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MB should offer an amazing deal to diesel owners to get them into new cars ...

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

254 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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Brooking10 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Stoopid over-styling inspired by my first AIWA stereo aside (3-disc-rotary changer! Dynamic Bass Boost! Argos p553) , that's quite a nice bit of kit, innit.

Imagine arriving somewhere in that spec though. What if someone you know is already there, do you just sit and wait until they've gone?

Not much point in getting there so quickly if that's going to happen very often.
When you say “that spec” you mean a grey estate car ?

Not entirely sure why that causes aesthetic alarm.
Nothing up with a grey estate car.

But that's a grey estate car in naff look-at-me paint, covered in non-functional silly willy-waving magpie plastic bullst. It's a few decals away from being the pace-car for the Indy 500.

To arrive in that is to proclaim loudly "Look At My Diffuser!"

And the person you say it to is either impressed with your diffuser, in which case you shouldn't be talking to them at all, or the person Already Knows Your Diffuser Doesn't Work, which should make you want to climb into the wheelarch of the nearest bus and wait.

Cheesy indeedy.


E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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DDg said:
I've been watching the new A Class YouTube vids and in terms of technology, gadgets & gizmo's, Mercedes are on a roll. Wonder if this has all the "Hey Mercedes, cool my seat, open the sunroof" stuff?

Although at the rate of change, it'll probably be outdated by Christmas.
Agree. Got my first ever Merc last year. The e-class estate and although the same shape, sadly not as fancy a version as shown in this topic but it's handsome, very frugal (I've seen 60mpg), and exceptionally comfortable. Love it. Mercedes are killing it with their interiors right now - a lovely place to be.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 30th April 2018
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SpeckledJim said:
Brooking10 said:
SpeckledJim said:
Stoopid over-styling inspired by my first AIWA stereo aside (3-disc-rotary changer! Dynamic Bass Boost! Argos p553) , that's quite a nice bit of kit, innit.

Imagine arriving somewhere in that spec though. What if someone you know is already there, do you just sit and wait until they've gone?

Not much point in getting there so quickly if that's going to happen very often.
When you say “that spec” you mean a grey estate car ?

Not entirely sure why that causes aesthetic alarm.
Nothing up with a grey estate car.

But that's a grey estate car in naff look-at-me paint, covered in non-functional silly willy-waving magpie plastic bullst. It's a few decals away from being the pace-car for the Indy 500.

To arrive in that is to proclaim loudly "Look At My Diffuser!"

And the person you say it to is either impressed with your diffuser, in which case you shouldn't be talking to them at all, or the person Already Knows Your Diffuser Doesn't Work, which should make you want to climb into the wheelarch of the nearest bus and wait.

Cheesy indeedy.
Hey ho.

I had better send mine back then given I committing such a horrendous automotive faux-pas or at the very least wear a paper bag with eye holes cut in so as to avoid the huge embarrassment I have thus been oblivious to wink