RE: Chrysler Crossfire: Spotted
Discussion
To be honest I've had 2 and do like them - no they are not a b-road bruiser, but they are great as a GT style driver. Took mine to Germany,Czech Republic and Austria for a European jaunt and it was great. Good sized boot (coupe) and very comfortable for those long trips.
I also had a mk1 TT for a while and in all honesty, preferred the Crossfires.
I also had a mk1 TT for a while and in all honesty, preferred the Crossfires.
WJNB said:
We delude ourselves thinking Clarkson is THAT influential, he thinks he is of course but doubt if his remarks had any effects on sales.
Yea yea I know Vauxhall love him not for dissing the Vectra but the car was still a major seller to Mr Average who just wanted an average car.
The Crossfire car is a bit of an oddball which is it's appeal & I note how many owners have to spend a lot of energy defending their choice by repeating it's really a Mercedes underneath. Of course deep down what they really wanted was a 'proper' Mercedes so the Crossfire is the poor mans compromise.
This makes me laugh. If I wanted a proper Mercedes I would have bought one. The Crossfire is a great little car for the money. Yea yea I know Vauxhall love him not for dissing the Vectra but the car was still a major seller to Mr Average who just wanted an average car.
The Crossfire car is a bit of an oddball which is it's appeal & I note how many owners have to spend a lot of energy defending their choice by repeating it's really a Mercedes underneath. Of course deep down what they really wanted was a 'proper' Mercedes so the Crossfire is the poor mans compromise.
J4CKO said:
Dont mind these but I could not be trusted not to punch the hill-arious wags who would come up to you and reference the Clarkson comment, it has to be mentioned in the context of the thread, as Mr Farquit did, but you just know your knuckles would be very sore inside the first week having punched 15 to 20 smart arses who truly believe that recycled fifteen year old Clarkson quotes are the height of pithy repartee.
Perhaps they need to have their own original thoughts ?
I had someone repeatedly do the TT/Gay/Hairdresser thing recently, musty have said it 7 times at me the other day looking for a rise from me, not specifically a Clarkson quote (he was a little more original on the TT, but in the same vein) he kind of then stopped the conversation and seemed to insist I replied to his ker-azy allegations, so I just asked if he wanted a haircut or a bumming, neither apparently.
So, Crossfire owners, I sympathise, and not about the car, which is actually a decent enough thing, just having to live with s
tting dog comments every day must get very, very tiresome.
Funnily enough though, i remember Clarkson, Hammond and May doing a group test of sports cars/convertibles/roadsters on TG and, despite Clarkson stating that the Crossfire was the worst of the lot, i do remember it pretty much getting his vote, simply on a level of how cheap they were from new. I think his point was that it's not that much worse than the competitors for the price the Chrysler is sold at and how much more the others were.Perhaps they need to have their own original thoughts ?
I had someone repeatedly do the TT/Gay/Hairdresser thing recently, musty have said it 7 times at me the other day looking for a rise from me, not specifically a Clarkson quote (he was a little more original on the TT, but in the same vein) he kind of then stopped the conversation and seemed to insist I replied to his ker-azy allegations, so I just asked if he wanted a haircut or a bumming, neither apparently.
So, Crossfire owners, I sympathise, and not about the car, which is actually a decent enough thing, just having to live with s
tting dog comments every day must get very, very tiresome.I think that these are actually quite alot of car for not alot of money. The issue is when people label them as a sportscar. They're not, whatsoever, and i can understand that they are pretty terrible at being just that. However, as a comfortable cruiser with a bit of punch, i think they're actually fantastic VFM. RWD, 6-cylinder, convertible, 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, SLK chassis, not ruinous to run and can be had for about 3 grand? Seems pretty decent.
swerni said:
Chrysler were offering large discounts on new cars when Nissan and Mazda were giving nothing away. Always a bad sign for residuals.
But as a used buy a few years on, they hold up very well indeed, I paid £5500 at 9 years old with a dealer for mine, over the next five years I put almost 30,000 trouble free miles on it, and then lost just £1300 when I sold it on privately, I don't think I've ever returned that sort of money on any other car of that purchase price over that ownership period.I remember advising the new owner that If he kept it tidy he should be able to get most of his £4200 back in a couple of years time as they only made them for around 5 years, in fact I think only 4 years of production for the roadster, so they are becoming relatively rare already.
I loved my old one that I had for a few years when it was still relatively new in my early 20s. Always wanted a grey one but ended up getting this one due to the low miles and price. Never gave me any trouble but a lorry ploughed into the side of it one day.
They also had a rather decent infinity sound system as standard.
Conversely my brother bought a leggy old grey one a couple of years back that gave him some grief with the ignition barrell and cam sensoreaving him stranded on one occasion.
They also had a rather decent infinity sound system as standard.
Conversely my brother bought a leggy old grey one a couple of years back that gave him some grief with the ignition barrell and cam sensoreaving him stranded on one occasion.
Manx V8V said:
But as a used buy a few years on, they hold up very well indeed, I paid £5500 at 9 years old with a dealer for mine, over the next five years I put almost 30,000 trouble free miles on it, and then lost just £1300 when I sold it on privately, I don't think I've ever returned that sort of money on any other car of that purchase price over that ownership period.
That's pretty good, although I bought an 8 year old BMW Z4 Coupe with 53K miles in 2014 privately. Put 8K miles on it in 2 years and got a few hundred quid more than I paid for it - very happy with that!
J4CKO said:
I couldnt find one when I was looking, anything sub 4 grand was Cat C/D or broken in some way, some leggier examples out there at less than four, even one under three but the bulk are a bit more expensive, but the Z4 being available makes the Crossfire an even harder sell.
Mine was £2,550 with a clean title 3.0 manual 118k miles. I would not consider paying £1k more for this even after rebuilding the VANOS, DISA Valve and sorting the roof out it will only owe me £3k all in.
I worked in the Chrysler dealer when these were new cars and actually quite liked them. They go ok and gave very little trouble in service, much less than Chrysler's "own" stuff like the PT Cruiser and Voyager. Similarly the Merc 210 based 300C was pretty good in that respect too. Good value too given what you got for the money. The SRT supercharged one goes like stink. The coupe is a bit Marmite but the convertible looks great.
The only thing I really didn't like was that interior, grey, grey, grey with some ghastly silver painted plastic sprinkled around, you could see where they saved the money!
The only thing I really didn't like was that interior, grey, grey, grey with some ghastly silver painted plastic sprinkled around, you could see where they saved the money!
Mound Dawg said:
Similarly the Merc 210 based 300C was pretty good in that respect too.
It's a popular notion, but the 300C was never based on the Mercedes-Benz E Class. Or any other car. The chassis was engineered and body designed in-house by Chrysler and using an advanced computer system.http://www.300cforums.com/forums/2nd-generation-ch...
To reduce costs and to lay the groundwork for marketing claims that Chrysler was being enhanced via the acquisition by Daimler AG, selected components (eg: steering column, seat frames) were sourced from the latter.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20110624/BLOG06/11...
irocfan said:
looks like your's was retrimed?
I bought it like that but I've never seen another one with alcantara seats. It helped the things as the leather seemed a bit low-rent.The only bit that annoyed me about the interior was the silver coloured centre console section. Just looked dated and cheap. Switches, steering wheel etc felt fine.
You can from the states via ebay get the wood or carbon trim for the silver bits.
Looks a lot better.
I had a roadster wish I still had it.
As said it's not a track warrior but for normal roads and cruising not a lot beats it for the price.
They ride quite well so considering the roads we have it's a major plus point.
Looks a lot better.
I had a roadster wish I still had it.
As said it's not a track warrior but for normal roads and cruising not a lot beats it for the price.
They ride quite well so considering the roads we have it's a major plus point.
swerni said:
Really?
You think what Clarkson says carries that much weight?
It was launched the same time as the 350z and the RX8 and that had more impact than anything else. The others were seen to be better cars. Little did we know the Mazda would eat itself on a regular basis.
I looked at all three and went for the 350z.
It would make a great buy now.
Whenever I see one of these I always think of Clarkson's sYou think what Clarkson says carries that much weight?
It was launched the same time as the 350z and the RX8 and that had more impact than anything else. The others were seen to be better cars. Little did we know the Mazda would eat itself on a regular basis.
I looked at all three and went for the 350z.
It would make a great buy now.
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